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y'all foulhttp://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/30/nfl-mock-draft-2017-myles-garrett-reuben-foster
*crying Jordan face if the first round actually plays out like this
~NEW. Houston. TEXANS. Preseason Thread 2017~ Pats @ NRG
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y'all foulhttp://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/30/nfl-mock-draft-2017-myles-garrett-reuben-foster
*crying Jordan face if the first round actually plays out like this
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*crying Jordan face if the first round actually plays out like this
eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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*crying Jordan face if the first round actually plays out like this
eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I doubt that it will go like that
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I doubt he last that long and he has that hip injury.
Not to mention if Trub slides out the top 10 we need to trade up.
He reminds me of Luck.
Not to mention if Trub slides out the top 10 we need to trade up.
He reminds me of Luck.
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A game-changing TE for Brock to under/overthrow 
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Our first for Cousins 
Who says no?
Who says no?
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I would hope us
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McNair is trash, he's done a great job of selling this city a dream for years now
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Better than bud Adams...but yeah he doesn't care as long as he's makin money
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Im gonna have to disagree with this.
McNair cares too much. He needs to keep his nose out of football decisions and let real football people do their jobs. Thanks to McNair we were blessed with Ed Reed and Brock
And as we all know, he needs to let his adopted son Rick Smith go
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Trash is too harsh.
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The New England Patriots Tried to Trade Jamie Collins to the Houston Texans
The New England Patriots attempted to trade Jamie Collins to the Houston Texans.
In a report from NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...collins-to-texans-before-trading-lb-to-browns), the New England Patriots came knocking on the Houston Texans door trying to trade them linebacker Jamie Collins before sending him to the Cleveland Browns. The reported offers saw the Patriots try to pry DeAndre Hopkins from the Texans after a slow start to the season but that was shot down in a hurry. The Texans also shot down an offer for cornerback Johnathan Joseph after the initial Hopkins offer that went no where.
Call it positional value but the Texans made the right choices on turning down the Patriots offer for Collins and the deal to the Browns went down in late October. At that time, the Texans were 5-3 heading into their bye week after coming off a strong win against the Detroit Lions.
The bigger issue was the Texans, if they did complete a trade for Collins, would have required a new deal. While Hopkins and Joseph are both under contract for reasonable deals heading into the 2017, Collins ended up with a 4-year, $50-milion extension with Browns who was entering his final season of his rookie deal.
the Pats are something else
The New England Patriots attempted to trade Jamie Collins to the Houston Texans.
In a report from NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...collins-to-texans-before-trading-lb-to-browns), the New England Patriots came knocking on the Houston Texans door trying to trade them linebacker Jamie Collins before sending him to the Cleveland Browns. The reported offers saw the Patriots try to pry DeAndre Hopkins from the Texans after a slow start to the season but that was shot down in a hurry. The Texans also shot down an offer for cornerback Johnathan Joseph after the initial Hopkins offer that went no where.
Call it positional value but the Texans made the right choices on turning down the Patriots offer for Collins and the deal to the Browns went down in late October. At that time, the Texans were 5-3 heading into their bye week after coming off a strong win against the Detroit Lions.
The bigger issue was the Texans, if they did complete a trade for Collins, would have required a new deal. While Hopkins and Joseph are both under contract for reasonable deals heading into the 2017, Collins ended up with a 4-year, $50-milion extension with Browns who was entering his final season of his rookie deal.
the Pats are something else
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Lol at trading D hop. That's almost as ludicrous as the Watt trade ideas.
Collins for JJoseph though?
Collins can definitely cover.
Money too bad?
Collins for JJoseph though?
Collins can definitely cover.
Money too bad?
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The Pats offered Collins to everyone
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Yea I don't think they would have wanted to pay him based on other guys they would have wanted to pay
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Collins for Hopkins
I legit would've burned my Texans gear and stopped watching football.
JJoe though [emoji]129300[/emoji]
I legit would've burned my Texans gear and stopped watching football.
JJoe though [emoji]129300[/emoji]
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Hopefully Smith and McNair got a glimpse of what real quarterback play was in the press box in their own stadium, though I didn't really notice is Smith was up there. Seeing two good defenses WITH good-great quarterback play had to make them teary eyed and embarrassed at the QB play that they themselves put on the field for the Houston fans.
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They've been witnessing slaw (or very flawed) QBs all their career and are replenishing them with more slaw QBs. At some point...somebody...in the organization has to realize we need help in the front office with evaluating/obtaining good QBs.
Here's to hoping we get lucky with a QB soon
Here's to hoping we get lucky with a QB soon
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From Battle Red Blog. A bunch of truths in here.
Last week was the Super Bowl. The articles scribbled and words spat during this event are always about the two teams in the BIG GAME. They usually go about it the same way, covering the same course of topics. If Player X wins, how does this affect his legacy? How did these teams get here? Why is this team special? What does this team do that no one else does?
I consumed all of it. Just as I always do, to get the blood boiling and get this big body feeling feelings. In this iteration for the Falcons-Patriots Super Bowl, there was one theme that rang throughout it all: That each organization has one singular focus and vision for what they want their team to be like.
On Peter King’s MMQB podcast, he talked to Chris Simms. Simms, as everyone knows, is a former player, but he also was an assistant coach on the Patriots’ staff. He yammered away about how every single person in that building, from the guy in his past lowly position, to the scouts, to the players, to that cutoff hoodied cretin himself, all know the central goal and vision for the organization.
On that same podcast, King had Thomas Dimitroff, the general manager of the Atlanta Falcons and former Patriots employee. Dimitroff was asked what made New England and Bill Belichick successful. He said their success was the result of every person and player knowing exactly what they need to do for the team to win. Again, pulling together on that same path towards that same central goal.
Dimitrioff talked about the Falcons, too. After Arthur Blank decided to fire Mike Smith, they went hunting for head coaches. When he interviewed Dan Quinn, his stomach was a butterfly garden. In his interview, Quinn talked about how important athleticism is. The entire time Dimitrioff, a general manager whose specialty is evaluating athletic ability, nodded his head in agreement. Through that love of athleticism, the Falcons put together the NFC Champions. They constructed a team that had the best offense in the league, a versatile one that’s filled with speed, and combined it with a young, very fast, and hard hitting defense that Quinn molded, taught, and developed.
As I listened to these podcasts and read articles about similar things, I was struck by how perfect it was and how you hear this about every championship team. Knowing roles. How each player fits. What to look for in every position. A cohesive plan to build a roster that matches the scheme and what the decision-makers, the coach and general manager, value in a team.
As I listened and read, I thought about how the Houston Texans were the opposite of this in 2016. They spent the offseason adding speed and elusiveness, only to run a grind-it-out, power run offense. They paid big for Lamar Miller and turned him into Alfred Blue, a plodding between the tackles runner, instead of allowing him to be masterful in space. They drafted Will Fuller, who became a ghost after the first month of the season, The Texans turned DeAndre Hopkins into a shell of himself. The passing game drizzled down its leg in the form of passing attempts in the flat to tight ends. Brock Osweiler was terrible. Awful. Despicable. You name it. But when Osweiler had success, it was from throwing the ball down field. Yet again, they ran a short passing offense that required accuracy, quick decisions, and a quick release, none of which Osweiler has. None of it made sense based on the decisions made last spring.
Whatever vision the Texans had didn’t match the product. Some of it, I get. Not everything is going to be perfect. You have to make changes and adjust when things don’t work out. The real worry is that the Texans don’t have a central vision of what they want this team to look like.
Heading into the playoffs, it was rumored the Texans could possibly fire Bill O’Brien or O’Brien could leave to coach somewhere else. The reasoning was that O’Brien wanted more control. He wanted more power to decide who to cut, who to draft, and what free agents to pursue. In other words, O’Brien wanted the job of the general manager. It was rumored that Brock Osweiler was a Rick Smith signing, not a Bill O’Brien signing. Whether this is true or not, I don’t know, but the number of reports and the drama heading into the playoffs made it seem certain there is some level of disconnect and animosity between the two.
This is the exact opposite of how successful franchises are run. Both the general manager and coach are supposed to work together to construct a roster that fits what they think is the best way to win football games. That’s it. That’s what the Falcons and Patriots just did and continue to do. The Texans didn’t do that this year. They operated under a shroud of power struggles and backroom bickering.
As the Texans enter the offseason, the spotlight for the Texans will be on specific questions. Which veterans are cut to create cap space? Will Kareem Jackson move to safety? Is Derek Newton going to be able to play again; if not, who will they bring in to replace him? How much will it cost to resign A.J. Bouye? Will the Texans finagle cap space to sign a veteran quarterback like Tony Romo? Will they take a quarterback early in the 2017 NFL Draft, or will they kick the can down the road again and start Tom Savage? Will DeAndre Hopkins be re-signed to a long-term deal? This is what’s facing this team entering this offseason.
If you care about the Texans winning a championship and this team being better than 9-7, the most important thing may not be the answers to any of the questions listed above. The most important aspect of this offseason is whether Smith and O’Brien can pull their expertise together to make the Texans better. If so, the talent is there for this team to make the jump to being an actual contender, assuming they can find a quarterback and improve the offense to at least league average. If not, thie 2017 Houston Texans will continue to be stretched apart in different directions without meshing. In a tougher AFC South and against a tough schedule that includes New England, Kansas City, the AFC North, and the NFC West, this could be the season where all the snips in the seams up top split open.
Last week was the Super Bowl. The articles scribbled and words spat during this event are always about the two teams in the BIG GAME. They usually go about it the same way, covering the same course of topics. If Player X wins, how does this affect his legacy? How did these teams get here? Why is this team special? What does this team do that no one else does?
I consumed all of it. Just as I always do, to get the blood boiling and get this big body feeling feelings. In this iteration for the Falcons-Patriots Super Bowl, there was one theme that rang throughout it all: That each organization has one singular focus and vision for what they want their team to be like.
On Peter King’s MMQB podcast, he talked to Chris Simms. Simms, as everyone knows, is a former player, but he also was an assistant coach on the Patriots’ staff. He yammered away about how every single person in that building, from the guy in his past lowly position, to the scouts, to the players, to that cutoff hoodied cretin himself, all know the central goal and vision for the organization.
On that same podcast, King had Thomas Dimitroff, the general manager of the Atlanta Falcons and former Patriots employee. Dimitroff was asked what made New England and Bill Belichick successful. He said their success was the result of every person and player knowing exactly what they need to do for the team to win. Again, pulling together on that same path towards that same central goal.
Dimitrioff talked about the Falcons, too. After Arthur Blank decided to fire Mike Smith, they went hunting for head coaches. When he interviewed Dan Quinn, his stomach was a butterfly garden. In his interview, Quinn talked about how important athleticism is. The entire time Dimitrioff, a general manager whose specialty is evaluating athletic ability, nodded his head in agreement. Through that love of athleticism, the Falcons put together the NFC Champions. They constructed a team that had the best offense in the league, a versatile one that’s filled with speed, and combined it with a young, very fast, and hard hitting defense that Quinn molded, taught, and developed.
As I listened to these podcasts and read articles about similar things, I was struck by how perfect it was and how you hear this about every championship team. Knowing roles. How each player fits. What to look for in every position. A cohesive plan to build a roster that matches the scheme and what the decision-makers, the coach and general manager, value in a team.
As I listened and read, I thought about how the Houston Texans were the opposite of this in 2016. They spent the offseason adding speed and elusiveness, only to run a grind-it-out, power run offense. They paid big for Lamar Miller and turned him into Alfred Blue, a plodding between the tackles runner, instead of allowing him to be masterful in space. They drafted Will Fuller, who became a ghost after the first month of the season, The Texans turned DeAndre Hopkins into a shell of himself. The passing game drizzled down its leg in the form of passing attempts in the flat to tight ends. Brock Osweiler was terrible. Awful. Despicable. You name it. But when Osweiler had success, it was from throwing the ball down field. Yet again, they ran a short passing offense that required accuracy, quick decisions, and a quick release, none of which Osweiler has. None of it made sense based on the decisions made last spring.
Whatever vision the Texans had didn’t match the product. Some of it, I get. Not everything is going to be perfect. You have to make changes and adjust when things don’t work out. The real worry is that the Texans don’t have a central vision of what they want this team to look like.
Heading into the playoffs, it was rumored the Texans could possibly fire Bill O’Brien or O’Brien could leave to coach somewhere else. The reasoning was that O’Brien wanted more control. He wanted more power to decide who to cut, who to draft, and what free agents to pursue. In other words, O’Brien wanted the job of the general manager. It was rumored that Brock Osweiler was a Rick Smith signing, not a Bill O’Brien signing. Whether this is true or not, I don’t know, but the number of reports and the drama heading into the playoffs made it seem certain there is some level of disconnect and animosity between the two.
This is the exact opposite of how successful franchises are run. Both the general manager and coach are supposed to work together to construct a roster that fits what they think is the best way to win football games. That’s it. That’s what the Falcons and Patriots just did and continue to do. The Texans didn’t do that this year. They operated under a shroud of power struggles and backroom bickering.
As the Texans enter the offseason, the spotlight for the Texans will be on specific questions. Which veterans are cut to create cap space? Will Kareem Jackson move to safety? Is Derek Newton going to be able to play again; if not, who will they bring in to replace him? How much will it cost to resign A.J. Bouye? Will the Texans finagle cap space to sign a veteran quarterback like Tony Romo? Will they take a quarterback early in the 2017 NFL Draft, or will they kick the can down the road again and start Tom Savage? Will DeAndre Hopkins be re-signed to a long-term deal? This is what’s facing this team entering this offseason.
If you care about the Texans winning a championship and this team being better than 9-7, the most important thing may not be the answers to any of the questions listed above. The most important aspect of this offseason is whether Smith and O’Brien can pull their expertise together to make the Texans better. If so, the talent is there for this team to make the jump to being an actual contender, assuming they can find a quarterback and improve the offense to at least league average. If not, thie 2017 Houston Texans will continue to be stretched apart in different directions without meshing. In a tougher AFC South and against a tough schedule that includes New England, Kansas City, the AFC North, and the NFC West, this could be the season where all the snips in the seams up top split open.
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I'll keep saying it, if the power structure between Obrein & Smith that fractured like media & bloggers like for us to believe then O'Brien should've quit and found a better organization that would've given him the control he wanted. I think it's obvious they've stripped him of some and he probably wasn't cool with that.
In the end it's my personal beliefs that Bill OBrien is just not that good of a coach.
In the end it's my personal beliefs that Bill OBrien is just not that good of a coach.
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All that needs to be said
Report: Tony Romo 'focused' on Houston Texans
Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo reportedly has his sights set on the Houston Texans.
Tony Romo may know where he wants to play next.
ESPN's Ed Werder reported on Thursday morning that the veteran quarterback, who will soon turn 37 years old, expects to be released by the Dallas Cowboys this offseason and not traded. He went on to say that Romo is "focused" on the Houston Texans as a landing spot, per Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle.
The Texans signed former Denver Broncos quarterback Brock Osweiler to a four-year, $72 million contract with $37 million fully guaranteed last offseason. The move was widely criticized, as Osweiler turned out to be a terrible starter, completing less than 60 percent of his pass attempts for a paltry passer rating of 72.2 in 2016.
By picking up Romo, the Texans may be able to solve their problems at the quarterback position and redeem themselves for the awful Osweiler signing. The motivation is certainly there for Houston to make a move, even if it has to wait until after June 1 for the Cowboys to cut Romo (cutting him before June 1 is a difference of $9 million in savings against the cap for the Cowboys).
With the Texans, Romo would have a solid defense and a couple intriguing playmakers on offense. He would have a true bell-cow running back in Lamar Miller and a top-tier wide receiver in DeAndre Hopkins. Where Osweiler failed to make the most of these weapons, Romo could turn them into a couple of the league's best players at their respective positions.
Romo wants to go to a contender, and the Texans fall under that category. They play in a very winnable AFC South and have been to the playoffs each of the past two seasons under head coach Bill O'Brien, despite serious struggles at the quarterback position. The team has finished with a winning record each of the past three seasons.
The biggest concern the Texans will face when it comes to investing in Romo as their starting quarterback is his injury history. He has only appeared in five games over the past two seasons, after injuring his collarbone twice in 2015 and his back in 2016. His absence allowed Dak Prescott to emerge as Dallas' future at quarterback.
Even if the Texans acquire Romo, they may want to follow the Cowboys' model and draft a rookie quarterback to serve as an insurance policy and eventually take over as the starter.
We'll see how this goes, along with Bouye and Hopkins
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Texans' Quintin Demps on his future, A.J. Bouye: 'Pay the man'
It was a breakthrough season for Texans veteran strong safety Quintin Demps punctuated by a career-high six interceptions.
Demps adeptly and alertly disrupted passing lanes, finishing first among all NFL safeties in interceptions and ranking second overall in the league.
After the 31-year-old played last season under a one-year, $1.5 million contract, the San Antonio native is hoping for long-term security. He's played on one-year deals each of the past five seasons, including his stints with the Texans, Kansas City Chiefs and New York Giants.
A married father with two sons and two daughters, Demps has positioned himself for a new contract whether that's with the Texans or another NFL team as he approaches free agency with a positive attitude. No talks have launched with the Texans at this time, but it's early. Free agency doesn't officially start until March 9.
"You never know with this league," Demps said during a visit to the Texas Southern University museum along with students from Pro-Vision Academy to take in the traveling Hall of Fame exhibit. "I'm just grateful to be in a good position right now and just kind of hit it up in the offseason and take it one day at a time."
Honored by the NFL as the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in December after intercepting four passes and recording 22 tackles, six passes defended and one tackle for a loss over the final four games of the regular season, Demps was a pivotal figure for the AFC South champions' top-ranked defense and second-ranked pass defense.
"I think we can definitely get better," Demps said. "I think we had a good season. There's definitely some things we can work on and get better at."
One of Demps' teammates is set to cash in as a pending unrestricted free agent: cornerback A.J. Bouye.
Bouye emerged as a hot commodity in NFL circles as one of the most improved players in the league. He could command anywhere between $12 million to $14 million on the open market.
"I think he's in a good position, a great place," Demps said. "I don't think he's dealing with anything negative, I'm sure it's all positive. I'm sure he's excited. I think he worked his butt off for it, so pay the man."
It was a breakthrough season for Texans veteran strong safety Quintin Demps punctuated by a career-high six interceptions.
Demps adeptly and alertly disrupted passing lanes, finishing first among all NFL safeties in interceptions and ranking second overall in the league.
After the 31-year-old played last season under a one-year, $1.5 million contract, the San Antonio native is hoping for long-term security. He's played on one-year deals each of the past five seasons, including his stints with the Texans, Kansas City Chiefs and New York Giants.
A married father with two sons and two daughters, Demps has positioned himself for a new contract whether that's with the Texans or another NFL team as he approaches free agency with a positive attitude. No talks have launched with the Texans at this time, but it's early. Free agency doesn't officially start until March 9.
"You never know with this league," Demps said during a visit to the Texas Southern University museum along with students from Pro-Vision Academy to take in the traveling Hall of Fame exhibit. "I'm just grateful to be in a good position right now and just kind of hit it up in the offseason and take it one day at a time."
Honored by the NFL as the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in December after intercepting four passes and recording 22 tackles, six passes defended and one tackle for a loss over the final four games of the regular season, Demps was a pivotal figure for the AFC South champions' top-ranked defense and second-ranked pass defense.
"I think we can definitely get better," Demps said. "I think we had a good season. There's definitely some things we can work on and get better at."
One of Demps' teammates is set to cash in as a pending unrestricted free agent: cornerback A.J. Bouye.
Bouye emerged as a hot commodity in NFL circles as one of the most improved players in the league. He could command anywhere between $12 million to $14 million on the open market.
"I think he's in a good position, a great place," Demps said. "I don't think he's dealing with anything negative, I'm sure it's all positive. I'm sure he's excited. I think he worked his butt off for it, so pay the man."
