~NEW. Houston. TEXANS. Preseason Thread 2017~ Pats @ NRG

Imma go ahead and give Rick Smith some credit too, DJ Reader is looking like a straight steal and might make big Vince expendable.

Guys like XSF, CJF, Strong, Blue, Hal, Prosch & Covington have been steady contributors.

???? XSF, CJF, Strong, and Blue are all trash. :lol: Blue was drafted late, so whatever. Let's not forget cutting Swearinger/Nix



Dude gets his credit, but his misses have kept us in mediocrity. We've been so "on the cusp" for such a long time and that plateau (imo) is b/c of our front office



and as far as OL, I rock with our FA moves this past offseason, but DAL drafted their talent. Much more valuable return when you can turn a rookie contract into a pro bowl contributor
 
Texans coach Bill O'Brien indicated Monday he would approach the regular-season finale against the Tennessee Titans with an intelligent approach in terms of deciding players' game statuses.

For the already-crowned AFC South division champion Texans, that means balancing trying to win 10 games and go 6-0 in the division with getting as healthy as possible for the impending postseason.

The Texans officially ruled out four starters in advance of Sunday's road game.

That includes veteran running back Lamar Miller, Pro Bowl defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, outside linebacker John Simon and fullback Jay Prosch

Miller has made progress and has been running, according to O'Brien. He'll be replaced in the lineup by Alfred Blue

Clowney didn't practice all week due to wrist and elbow injuries.

Simon returned from a pectoral injury against the Bengals after missing four games, but he didn't practice all week.

Prosch missed the past two days of practice after being limited with knee and ankle injuries Wednesday.

Another candidate to miss this game is cornerback Johnathan Joseph The two-time Pro Bowl selection returned against the Bengals despite needing a pain-killer. Joseph cracked ribs and bruised his lung against the Packers. Joseph is questionable. He didn't practice Friday and also has an illness.

Fuller adjusts to rigors of NFL


Texas rookie wide receiver Will Fuller's adjustment to the NFL has involved dealing with knee and hamstring injuries and grappling with bigger, stronger defensive backs.

Following a fast start to the season with 19 receptions for 323 yards and two touchdowns through his first four games, the speedy first-round draft pick's production has slowed down while working in tandem with Pro Bowl alternate wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins

For the season, Fuller has caught 44 passes for 611 yards and two touchdowns. He had a 67-yard punt return for a score against the Tennessee Titans. He's the first rookie in NFL history with 300 receiving yards and a punt return for a touchdown during the first four games of the season.

The New Orleans Saints' Michael Thomas (981 yards) and the New York Giants' Sterling Shepard (643 yards) are the only rookie wide receivers with more yards than Fuller.

Fuller ranks fifth among rookie wide receivers for catches.

"He was more productive probably earlier in the season," Texans coach Bill O'Brien said. "I think he has dealt with some injuries over the second half. I think a lot of these rookies learnduring their rookie year how important the offseason is going to be for them.

"You come into your rookie year and all you've been getting ready for are a modeling job, the combine and running 40-yard dashes."

Hopkins praises Savage demeanor

Although Texans quarterback Tom Savage was under a considerable amount of duress in his first NFL start against the Bengals' relentless pass rush, wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins didn't notice any change in his attitude.

Savage maintained a calm demeanor and a sense of humor.

"Oh, yeah, that's one thing about him that you have to love," Hopkins said. "He's always even-keeled throughout. Even when he was getting sacked he was the same guy: 'Let's go out and do better next drive.' "
 
The goal for today was to see Savage had sustained drives, win, and get out of Tennessee healthy. It looks like none of those will happen
 
Garbage game today. I gave XSF some props a couple posts ago, only for him and most of the line in general t put on an awful performance. Those last two plays summed things up in a nutshell, XSF getting completely dominated leading to a big hit on Brock, followed but a weak, pathetic pass from Brock, nothing towards the endzone at all. I don't know who will be quarterback this week, but if the line plays like it has the past two week, I may as well start the off-season thread and focus on the draft.
 
Well, officially the Raiders. I'd honestly rather play them with Carr and without defensive players with how bad our offense is :lol:
 
The offense stinks, and I feel like Brock's performance today may trick BOB into starting him next week even if Savage is cleared to play.
 
The offense stinks, and I feel like Brock's performance today may trick BOB into starting him next week even if Savage is cleared to play.
If Savage is healthy and BOB starts Brock, i'll lose it 
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The offense stinks, and I feel like Brock's performance today may trick BOB into starting him next week even if Savage is cleared to play.

If Savage is healthy and BOB starts Brock, i'll lose it :smh:

Exactly. I just have that gut feeling that will be the case. Hope I'm wrong though. Though Brock made a handful of good passes yesterday, the Wendel Williams and Hopkins 51 yard catches skewed the hell out of Brock's stats. Looking back at this season though, I've hated watched the offense as much as I hated watching last year's Rockets team. Such a chore. This o line better play better regardless of who starts at QB though. XSF got drove like a garbage can and Chris Clark kept getting moved back like a kid. And that kept the running game from doing anything at all. It's a shame that this Raiders game is probably a coin flip instead of a definitive Texans win. The defense will unfortunately have to carry them again.
 
Only thing that's gonna solve our problems is our front office being blown up.

I think McNair is Rick Smith's son's godfather or something like that. FML
 
The whole organization is trash.

I had a 5 minute conversation with Jamey Roots when I was in college, and walked away wondering how he has such job :lol:

They want so badly to be other organizations instead of creating their own identity.
 
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We had our chance to get rid of Rick Smith when Kubes was clipped.

What options do we have now? Cut Rick and keep bob and find a GM who gonna work around it?

Who's available ?

Wouldn't mind someone from the Green Bay tree :nerd: this has to be an attractive job :nerd:

BUT I will say this, since Mike Maccagnan left to the Jets the past 2 drafts haven't been bad :nerd:

2015 :

K Johnson
McKinney
Strong
Covington (6th rounder)

2016:

Fuller
Martin (hurt)
Miller (hurt)
Ervin
Dillon (hurt)
Reader

:nerd: just saying

Not to mention AJ :nerd:
 
The whole organization is trash.

I had a 5 minute conversation with Jamey Roots when I was in college, and walked away wondering how he has such job :lol:

They want so badly to be other organizations instead of creating their own identity.

This big time smh. 1st it was the Broncos, now "Pats South". Better start produccing or else this organization will be looking like Pats Early 90's

We had our chance to get rid of Rick Smith when Kubes was clipped.

What options do we have now? Cut Rick and keep bob and find a GM who gonna work around it?

Who's available ?

Wouldn't mind someone from the Green Bay tree :nerd: this has to be an attractive job :nerd:

BUT I will say this, since Mike Maccagnan left to the Jets the past 2 drafts haven't been bad :nerd:

2015 :

K Johnson
McKinney
Strong
Covington (6th rounder)

2016:

Fuller
Martin (hurt)
Miller (hurt)
Ervin
Dillon (hurt)
Reader

:nerd: just saying

Not to mention AJ :nerd:

I had to look him up, and good lord he played a part in analyzing college scouting here from 2000-2014. Yuck.
 
Exactly, I sorta knew of a the dude a few years back. Then when the jets hired him I had the swaggy p face considering our poor drafting.

He's gone and past 2 drafts have been decent while the jets 2 draft have been :x
 
We had our chance to get rid of Rick Smith when Kubes was clipped.

What options do we have now? Cut Rick and keep bob and find a GM who gonna work around it?

Who's available ?

Wouldn't mind someone from the Green Bay tree :nerd: this has to be an attractive job :nerd:

BUT I will say this, since Mike Maccagnan left to the Jets the past 2 drafts haven't been bad :nerd:

2015 :

K Johnson (should have gotten Peters)
McKinney
Strong
Covington (6th rounder)

2016:

Fuller
Martin (hurt)
Miller (hurt)
Ervin
Dillon (hurt)
Reader

:nerd: just saying

Not to mention AJ :nerd:


I agree the improvement is there overall. we're still missing on some obvious calls tho. KJ over Peters, imo was an obvious miss that we're fortunate that KJ is still a player....but Bouye is def a step in the right direction as far as addressing a need that we've been super bummy at addressing.

My issue now is the QB position and OL. Sort of like people have alluded, it just feels like we don't got the big picture right. First hearing about legitimately not even calling Carr, the Mallet/OB QB whisper pump fake, and now questioning what evaluation was done to be so gung-ho on Brock. We'll see how Nick Martin pans out. XSF is a bust. We did address OL to a degree in FA though.
 
OL their trying, XSF was graded highly and was thought a "steal" when he slipped to us (Nix as well (DL, I know))

Martin got hurt, newton turned into a serviceable starter but suffered that horrific injury.

The team has been riddled by injuries this year.

Next year I assume OL in the first? MAYBE QB depending on where we land?

We need an atheletic TE, bob developed that system that Hernandez / Gronk Reaked havoc on the league with ( granted the talent level )

As for QB I'm not sure man.

:smh:

Bobs 3rd season and we have drafted 1 QB (Savage)

Granted we weren't in position for Winston / Mariota.

No one knew dak would be this.

Teddy was stolen but even then I don't think the team was in love with him.

Carr, let's be honest, we were never gonna take him and 99% of us didn't want him.


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I've legitimately never hear "steal" referencing xsf before or after the draft.

And I legit can't entertain a conversation about a bunch of uninformed fans not liking a player bc of his brother. Not to the point where we justify not evaluating a multi million dollar asset for a business.

I cringe evertime that argument is used :lol:
 
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