Religious famb... Keep it funky...

The lengths people will go to make excuses for deplorable acts committed by religious and racial ideologies is baffling.

Ironically, many people in here don't have a problem coming at whites for racism buy the second you bring up the role religion plays everyone wanna act stupid.

Hope your aren't referring to me, cause I didnt say that at all.
 
That's a dumb question to ask. I was clearly not talking about muslims who kill for other motives. Hell I wasn't even talking about individual muslims, I was talking about a systemic issue with the religion of Islam and its effects on Africa.


Yall sound like white people who say "Well I don't own slaves" whenever you bring up racism. So many parallels. I am not saying the average Muslim is a bad person I am just pointing out a historical and current fact....Islam had a very heavy hand in the destruction of Africa. 

I don't think anyone disagreed, I misinterpreted what you said and wanted some clarification
 
How? And what age? Right before you died? Or 15 years before you died? Or back when you were 2 years old?

What if you were a vegetable before you died? What if you lost your legs 10 years before you died?

Why? Why is it what you want it to be?
You'll be in full form. Even if you were born without legs. The next life isn't a spiritual dreamland, it's a physical reality. Research what Islam says about the hereafter. It's very detailed.
 
 
If Islam promises me a one white and one black tall, slim women I'd convert yesterday, but they over here offering underage girls. 
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Lion! lol u mad? Research.
 
I know dudes ain't in here ain't trying to imply that the Muslims that ravaged Africa in the name of Islam all did it for non-religious reasons :lol: :smh:

Research.

Its a reason why so many stay silent. These Muslims in here ain't trying to admit that their ppl were no different than European imperialists. Its just they ended up losing to them too.

Research.


 
They say faith can move mountains, but the one thing I am sure of is that it can move buildings.

uoooo cleaver lol now go do some research. 
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Let's be honest...humanity just likes to be in groups and feel special.
Of course religions say disgusting things about certain other groups of people because human beings inherently like excluding themselves from others to feel special.
S_, even when the whole world believes the same thing, some c_s_ will pop out and make something different.
Catholic church was hella popping until King Henry was like, "F_ that noise, I want divorces and s_."
Islam got that Sunni/Shia divide.

If we gathered the 7 Dragon Balls and wished all the current religions from ever existing, humanity would pick somethin else to hype over and fight about.

NT vs ISS, yo NT for life ya'dig?!
Oh you're on NT, which section though? NT General for life son!
Oh you're on General all the time? Man, TAY Thread or die, b!

In an endless and infinite Universe, we are just monkeys that rose from billions of random, chaotic happenings.
 
1. I believe in God of the Bible (YHVH- Yahweh). Every other belief system (outside of Judaism, which uses the Torah -the first 5 books of Bible- as its foundation) can be traced to one man's account receiving divine revelation from "the Creator." ( And usually there are no witnesses). Not assuming these revelations are fabricated, it just hinges the existence of the entire belief system on the shoulders of one persons integrity, perception, and judgement. Contrast this with God of the Bible.

God has revealed himself to people on individual basis as well ( see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob). He often validates His previous revelations by referencing the other people He has spoken with. (ex. Exodus 6:3) But He also did revealed himself to 1.2 million (est.) people at Mount Sinai. (ex.Deuteronomy 4:9-13) He reveals Himself and implores them to remember and pass down the knowledge to their descendants. Jewish people (one of the 12 tribes present at Mt.Sinai) still til this day keep this tradition of passing down these accounts.

Now is it possible to have a million+ people corroborate a false story? Hey, to me, nothing is impossible. ( It does seem mighty challenging tho) But this belief system has numerous individual revelations that also reference one another. It has unique large group revelations, taking the integrity, perception, and judgement of over a million people into account for validation. And, a call to action for each person to remember and share what took place.

Now I am in no way trying to diminish or denounce any other belief systems, regarding the abrasive tone the first question may have been asked in. But with all these things to consider, it allow me to feel comfort in the ground I stand on when it comes to my faith.

2. Fact. Some stuff are metaphorical as well.
Just because we cant perceive how a thing can happen doesn't mean it didn't (see Stone Hendge)

I agree 100%. In addition to what was said, the internal harmony, prophecies made in the Bible that history/archaeological evidence confirmed and seeing the benefits of applying it's words in my life make be a believer. Even though I feel that I'm in the religion that teaches the truth, I don't look down on others for making their own decisions and respect their right to choose for themselves.
 
:lol: Nice cop out

Talking snakes
Turning Water into Win
Old Men parting bodies of water

All perception right? :nerd:



It makes more sense that all religions are RIGHT or WRONG; than it is for ONE (Christianity) to be right. That is my biggest issue with Christianity.

One thing worth mentioning about the bolded, there are so many denominations of Christianity that they call can't be lumped together. You can drive 3 blocks and see 4 churches of different denominations with totally different teachings.
 
A credible Muslim.

We may not be at the same levels of faith as each other but I'm sure you were taught at an early age, like myself, that we're supposed to "defend" Islam if it has been brought up in conversation, so it's important that instead of telling these people to just research without any idea where to go for it, that you provide them with proper, unbiased sources

Yes, it's difficult to find, but remember we aren't here to convert anybody. You're simply teaching someone something they might not have known before

I would do it but you seem more well versed in the inner workings than I am.

This is about perspective. There are people out there who take the aspects of Islam and use them for evil. There are also people who use different aspects for good. We can't deny either side because the deen is what we believe it to be and we will never know until were not on this Earth.
 
Religion occurs because people do not want to believe they dont live forever and dont want to believe that they will never see lost love ones again.
It gives them comfort and something to understand in the confusion "god" has purposely created.
Scumbags thirsty for power realized early on in history, that you can really take advantage of people with these fears.

In a time of no video and fingerprints, guilting people into believing that they are always being watched, makes them behave a bit better than they otherwise might have, in the eyes of those in power.

No offense to those with faith but I think it is naive to dedicate your life to the words of man. Our track record of lieing as a species is unparalleled.

Besides, none of these clowns even had ultra boosts to know what heaven feels like back then anyway :lol:
 
Religion occurs because people do not want to believe they dont live forever and dont want to believe that they will never see lost love ones again.
It gives them comfort and something to understand in the confusion "god" has purposely created.
Scumbags thirsty for power realized early on in history, that you can really take advantage of people with these fears.

In a time of no video and fingerprints, guilting people into believing that they are always being watched, makes them behave a bit better than they otherwise might have, in the eyes of those in power.

No offense to those with faith but I think it is naive to dedicate your life to the words of man. Our track record of lieing as a species is unparalleled.

Besides, none of these clowns even had ultra boosts to know what heaven feels like back then anyway
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You have a different way of viewing religion as I do. Religion to me is the explanation for the unknown. It's not limited by a fear of death and the ever present thought that life can end at any moment. Religion is based more on love while you're alive than how great the afterlife will be or the vast reward of a upgrade in reincarnation. There is comfort in "knowing" that I won't just cease to exist the day I die but it's not rooted in what you describe.

I never understood this logic. Something is less credible because man wrote but isn't everything written by man? I get it if you don't believe or don't approve but to use this as a rationale is laughable.
 
You have a different way of viewing religion as I do. Religion to me is the explanation for the unknown. It's not limited by a fear of death and the ever present thought that life can end at any moment. Religion is based more on love while you're alive than how great the afterlife will be or the vast reward of a upgrade in reincarnation. There is comfort in "knowing" that I won't just cease to exist the day I die but it's not rooted in what you describe.

I never understood this logic. Something is less credible because man wrote but isn't everything written by man? I get it if you don't believe or don't approve but to use this as a rationale is laughable.

I disagree famb

I feel like more people are concerned about what happens AFTER they die.

For perspective... What would end religion quicker...?

The knowledge of the unknown within your 80+ years of living?

Or the knowledge of no eternal afterlife?
 
We may not be at the same levels of faith as each other but I'm sure you were taught at an early age, like myself, that we're supposed to "defend" Islam if it has been brought up in conversation, so it's important that instead of telling these people to just research without any idea where to go for it, that you provide them with proper, unbiased sources

Yes, it's difficult to find, but remember we aren't here to convert anybody. You're simply teaching someone something they might not have known before

I would do it but you seem more well versed in the inner workings than I am.

This is about perspective. There are people out there who take the aspects of Islam and use them for evil. There are also people who use different aspects for good. We can't deny either side because the deen is what we believe it to be and we will never know until were not on this Earth.
In total disagreement with that statement as a Muslim. The standards have already been set by Allah through the Prophet (may peace be upon him) and the Sahaba. The way they understand the deen is the way we understand the deen. If you have any questions or are uncertain about a matter refer back to the pious predecessors. Ask questions to people that have knowledge. A part of iman is to believe without any doubts in your heart. I accepted Islam over 10 years ago and the more I learn the more I know I made the right choice.

Nobody on this forum (or person that ever existed), no video no statement can sway my belief in Islam being the ultimate truth. The truth stands clear from falsehood. What I said on page 5 is a brief reflection on my views on religion, insha'Allah people read it and be guided to Islam. If not then oh well. 

Atheist and Non-religious people think that God needs them lol. Hell-fire was made for a reason, that's why I won't go back and forth here. Instead of binge watching your favorite tv show go do research and prepare yourself for what is certain. Death.
 
I disagree famb

I feel like more people are concerned about what happens AFTER they die.

For perspective... What would end religion quicker...?

The knowledge of the unknown within your 80+ years of living?

Or the knowledge of no eternal afterlife?
I wasn't trying to say that afterlife isn't important but that it's not the foundation of what religion is. Finding out that all the tithing and volunteering was all moot would definitely have an effect but I think there are many people who would be crushed by the realization that there's no "plan" and that all the bad things that have been happening to them don't have any further purpose than just negative events in their lives.

Like the people who's sole motivation for getting up in the morning is the promise that God will make a way for them and better things are coming to their lives would be completely devastated to find there's nothing more to their pain
 
Atheist and Non-religious people think that God needs them lol. Hell-fire was made for a reason, that's why I won't go back and forth here. Instead of binge watching your favorite tv show go do research and prepare yourself for what is certain. Death.

Religious people think the world needs them lol
 
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