Religious famb... Keep it funky...

The poorest in a long time.

Like it was better when Muslim NTers decided to stay out of these threads cuz they ain't want these logical Ls. At least they were go eat about it.


Time before that I remember one dude wrapped in that circular logic and confirmation bias about Islam not taking from myths and religions that predated it.

Ultimate truth.


Research.


Stay woke.


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Well it was them straight up telling other Muslims to stay out of these threads and every now and then dropping one post to say why they don't post :lol:

Stay woke.

Research.

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I don't have the book on hand, and I know I'm butchering his words a bit, but he talks about how would we know the difference between right and wrong if we had nothing to base it upon? Like how we would as humans develop morals and laws on our own if there was no example laid out for us by God? I'm intrigued to finish the book.

I would say yes. Sure, without religion existing there probably would have been extreme stuff going on like barbarian slaying and the strongest and powerful doing whatever they wan type of stuff, but that has been going on anyway. I think it would have plateau eventually to a peaceful state somewhere along the lines. Probably maybe even more quicker than we all did. I also feel that the average human would have been a stronger, smarter, bigger, better human if religion did uphold so long as the way it did.

The catholic molestation saga is a black mark on the Catholic Church and Christianity as a whole, but it is not a representation of the whole. There are bad apples in any organization, just like we are seeing with the police right now. The media gets a hold of it and does what it can to make you believe it's the majority when in reality it is in the minority.

True, theres bad apples everywhere. I also feel there is a lot of mental issues (like narcissism and lack of empathy) going on in this society, but it's perceived as normal because it doesnt hurt anyone or not skitz.

All these charities, churches, In God We Trust on our money, people getting married in churches, etc and it's all a hoax to control people? I guess all of us are complete brainwashed idiots and all of those who came before us for hundreds of years are the same. The Bible being the most translated book ever is just a coincidence.

Yes. Although I dont think the control part holds anymore. Its on a life of its own now. But why cant this be believable? Just because most people believe in it doesnt mean its true. Cant there be a possibilty that most people are stupid? Think of the average person. Then think of the average of the average people. Think of how dumb that person is. Think of why Americas Got Talent is an actual tv show. Think of why Jenner lips is something to talk about. Think about how you can make a dance or hiphop song with 4 chords in it and become a millionaire and nobody knows the jazz musician at the local jazz bar. Tell me why the instagram sluts have proverbs on their profile. Tell me how singing "powerful" gospel is any different than singing out of tune or just reading it out loud.Think about how Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are above Bernie Sanders. Because humans are emotional creatures. And most of them are weak/dumb. If anything, seratonin is the true god.

You think the world we live in is the way its supposed to be. But it just really became like that because of history. So just cause whatever you see happening now in life, doesnt mean its right...back then you might have unpopular opinions like blacks are equal to whites, or gays arent equal to hetero people. At that time they felt it was right because they were in that time.

The problem with Christianity and to my limited knowledge of other religions is when the "believers" make the religion to be what they want it to be instead of following it in its true form.

I agree with this. Religion is just a persons interpretation of it. If you ask 2 people to write down what it truly is, you will never have the same answer. Therefore it is just an mental/emotional thing. Its just comfort. They dont want to be alone. Or they dont want/cant think that far. It sounds good that there is something there. It all boils down to the persons standards of critical thinking. one persons explanation might be enough for them, but might not be for another person. The second person can have different roots of thoughts that the first person doesnt even have on their brainmap so its impossible for that person to understand. Its like if a robot version 2 was trying to teach a robot version 1 something but its not working because version 2 has files/firmware that doesnt even exist in version 1s files/firmware.
 
To the people that don't believe in God, religion, etc...

What exactly was it that confirmed your stance against it? Was it just reading the Bible/Quran whatever or was it certain writings, books, YouTube videos? The reason I'm asking is because in the majority of my conversations w/ non-believers they demonstrated a high level of knowledge of the religions that they choose not to follow.
-"take it on faith": ************ that is not an answer! how you gonna require proof of everything but the eventual fate of your mortal soul? they hit me with this one all the time in Catholic school, and as a result I was on my way out of the game by 12 or so.

- kids born with AIDS: like, what?

- free will: okay so you just gonna create a bunch of creatures and not only give them the burning desire to do everything you hate, but the capacity and cause to logically doubt you exist...then punish them for it? lemme just give this toddler a fork and sit her by the power socket then stand by and shake my head when the obvious happens.

- hell: ETERNAL suffering. not years. not centuries. not the entire span of earth's existence (whether you believe its 4,000 or 4.5 billion years). forever and ever. literally no one in the history of mankind deserves to be incinerated alive for all time (or "know of God and never be with him" or whatever new age interpretation). hundreds, thousands, millions of years in some cases? okay. for eva eva? thanks, dad.

- Atlantic Slave Trade: so it is now KNOWN that Christianity was only offered to black folks as part of that whole agricultural internship program, but we just gonna keep showing up every Sunday, eh?

- cults: other than membership level, what's the difference again? we laugh at Mormons, Scientologists and whatever **** Jim Jones was on, but accept millions of people following the word of an ancient book to the letter, including ceremonially consuming the body and blood of their savior as part of a weekly ritual. okay. hell, if someone still worshipped the Greek/Roman gods today, they'd get looked at with a high-angle side eye...no, but this is different because it's happening today.

- the suspiciously human emotions God seems to feel...jealousy, anger, sadness...I'd expect a limitless being to be a bit more stoic.

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This idea that god created the world just so that it would worship him and gets angry when it doesn't is just hilarious to me. 
always confused me...like how narcissistic can a deity possibly be? you have unfathomably infinite, unassailably eternal cosmic powers and this is what you do with your time?

the Jesus story, dinosaurs, other planets (and the potential life on them), just so so sooooooooo manymany things. again, all this was by age 15, probably less.
 
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To the people that don't believe in God, religion, etc...

What exactly was it that confirmed your stance against it? Was it just reading the Bible/Quran whatever or was it certain writings, books, YouTube videos? The reason I'm asking is because in the majority of my conversations w/ non-believers they demonstrated a high level of knowledge of the religions that they choose not to follow.

All the logical loops you have to jump through...

I would ask questions and never get an answer.

I was a kid and the first time logic hit me... I was like "why pray to Jesus? Why don't I just go straight to the top dog?"

Then the preacher says "they're all the same"

Right then i was like "that makes zero sense"


-"take it on faith": ************ that is not an answer! how you gonna require proof of everything but the eventual fate of your mortal soul? they hit me with this one all the time in Catholic school, and as a result I was on my way out of the game by 12 or so.

- kids born with AIDS: like, what?

- free will: okay so you just gonna create a bunch of creatures and not only give them the burning desire to do everything you hate, but the capacity and cause to logically doubt you exist...then punish them for it? lemme just give this toddler a fork and sit her by the power socket then stand by and shake my head when the obvious happens.

- hell: ETERNAL suffering. not years. not centuries. not the entire span of earth's existence (whether you believe its 4,000 or 4.5 billion years). forever and ever. literally no one in the history of mankind deserves to be incinerated alive for all time (or "know of God and never be with him" or whatever new age interpretation). hundreds, thousands, millions of years in some cases? okay. for eva eva? thanks, dad.

- Atlantic Slave Trade: so it is now KNOWN that Christianity was only offered to black folks as part of that whole agricultural internship program, but we just gonna keep showing up every Sunday, eh?

- cults: other than membership level, what's the difference again? we laugh at Mormons, Scientologists and whatever **** Jim Jones was on, but accept millions of people following the word of an ancient book to the letter, including ceremonially consuming the body and blood of their savior as part of a weekly ritual. okay. hell, if someone still worshipped the Greek/Roman gods today, they'd get looked at with a high-angle side eye...no, but this is different because it's happening today.

- the suspiciously human emotions God seems to feel...jealousy, anger, sadness...I'd expect a limitless being to be a bit more stoic.

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always confused me...like how narcissistic can a deity possibly be? you have unfathomably infinite, unassailably eternal cosmic powers and this is what you do with your time?


the Jesus story, dinosaurs, other planets (and the potential life on them), just so so sooooooooo manymany things. again, all this was by age 15, probably less.

Excellent summation.
 
man, you are a terrible representation of your faith and its practitioners. go find yourself.

It's the religious equivalent of "I know you are but what am i?"

No need to pile on though... Homey got his L (which I'm sure he'll refute and say go research).
 
It's the religious equivalent of "I know you are but what am i?"

No need to pile on though... Homey got his L (which I'm sure he'll refute and say go research).
you're right, reading back through the pages, but I'm just offering him an avenue to discovery. I know finding myself has given me a more complete worldview...maybe it'll have the same effect for him that legitimate research would.

so, once again...
 
You need guidance. Better find it before it's too late.
go find yourself.
 
It's the religious equivalent of "I know you are but what am i?"

No need to pile on though... Homey got his L (which I'm sure he'll refute and say go research).
People in here disrespecting God and yall mad at ME? lol See you on Judgement day. The feeling of being unsure what to expect after death must not sit well with you.
 
you're right, reading back through the pages, but I'm just offering him an avenue to discovery. I know finding myself has given me a more complete worldview...maybe it'll have the same effect for him that legitimate research would.

so, once again...

go find yourself.
You offer an avenue to weakness. Find out what happens to you after you die and stand by it 100% with no doubts. 
 
To the people that don't believe in God, religion, etc...

What exactly was it that confirmed your stance against it? Was it just reading the Bible/Quran whatever or was it certain writings, books, YouTube videos? The reason I'm asking is because in the majority of my conversations w/ non-believers they demonstrated a high level of knowledge of the religions that they choose not to follow.
I'll start off by saying neither of my parents are religious, they even chose to marry through a civil union instead of a religious marriage. Not sure if civil union is the correct term, but basically an official from the city marries you instead of the church. Atheism was never forced on me, not that I can recall anyway.

I went to a catholic school both in elementary and highschool.

Despite being a catholic elementary school by name and offering catholic class, they also offered an alternative for atheists or people of other religions.

Ironically, that alternative class was called "ethics". I don't exactly recall why I chose to switch to the alternative class by the second grade. By that point I was also placed in the 6th grade level category for reading class so I'm guessing that had something to do with it.

I was also a bit of a science geek from a very early age and only read adult books throughout elementary.

In the second grade it was just me and my muslim friend in the ethics class 
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The class contained a bit of everything. It started out as more of creativity class, crafting things, painting, drawing, ...

It went more towards the study of all major religions in the following grades. Towards the 5th and 6th grade is where it really became a philosophy/ethics class.

We also gradually got more students opting out of catholic class as time went on. We started with 2 people and a few grades later we had about 20 people. Most people at my school didn't believe in god by the time we graduated, they just continued catholic class to receive the gifts from their communions 
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My highschool was also a catholic school but religion class involved the study of all religions, even Hinduism and Buddhism. There was a bit more focus on the history of christianity but definitely no indoctrination or forcing going on. I didn't know anyone who was religious at that point aside from the muslims. Nowadays (I'm 22 now) I don't know a single person under the age of 60 that is religious, except muslims again. Churches are growing emptier each year around here.
 
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All your posts wreak of worry and concern. Research has become your mantra to keep some hold on to your shaken faith

If you gotta tell yourself I'm mad to feel better go ahead.

Stay woke.

Stay aware.

Expand your mind b.
 
Think you should consult Professer X before you post. Ask him what happens after you die while you're at it lol
 
All your posts wreak of worry and concern. Research has become your mantra to keep some hold on to your shaken faith


If you gotta tell yourself I'm mad to feel better go ahead.


Stay woke.


Stay aware.


Expand your mind b.

 

Think you should consult Professer X before you post. Ask him what happens after you die while you're at it lol
Deflection and attempts at mockery as a defense mechanism is pitiful and too transparent.

Do better man and be honest. You not ready to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Also I post Dr. Strange and you talking about Prof. X? How sway? You reading Illuminati issues?

Research.

Stay woke.
 
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Deflection and attempts at mockery as a defense mechanism is pitiful and too transparent.

Do better man and be honest. You not ready to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Also I lost Dr. Strange and you talking about Prof. X? How sway?
That's nice and all. But you still got some research to do.
 
Lucifer is merely the personification of the five bodily senses your consciousness was endowed with when you were born.

Satan
Damien 666

Whatever dude's name if. The Fallen Angle dude

It was never meant as some evil underworld entity that punishes you for doing wrong. You punish yourself through your own actions and desires. You cause your own suffering by the decisions you make and the paths and values you establish in your life.

On one hand, your five senses are the root of your desires, your faults. Seeking the stimulation of these senses, in some cases, is ultimately what causes all the evil in the world. On the other hand you need your senses. Without them you could not learn, you could not perceive and grow. Knowledge flows through your sensory perception. As an example, one could desire money or material wealth. Only through fulfilling these desires can you truly understand that it is ultimately unfulfilling. Money won't make you happy, but it's difficult to fully grasp this without having desired and acquired money and experienced that lack of fulfillment. That is why "he" made "him".
 
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