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Poll Results: Who is the MVP?

 
  • 45% (132)
    Russell Westbrook
  • 17% (52)
    Kawhi Leonard
  • 24% (71)
    James Harden
  • 9% (27)
    Lebron James
  • 2% (8)
    Kevin Durant
290 Total Votes  
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Originally Posted by Rollinwithangel View Post


There's no reason to do that, Spurs always got away with old or semi washed up vets because the core was always there. How much does rose want? That 150 had to have been a joke.

This season after the Knicks did not make the playoffs, Rose have said he has made enough money to where if he retired from basketball, he will be good. (150+mil + that huge bag from Adidas contract) He said he's not going to in the meetings to talk about money, he wants to win and return back to the playoffs. Money will come but playing for a contender, a winner, is far more important. 

 

I'm sure after 2 consecutive playoff absence, money ain't no thing and winning is. 

Again, I'm sure he wants a ring more than money at this point. 

post #77102 of 77126
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

Rose on the spurs. I like it

 

 

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Originally Posted by Zyzz View Post

I like it but at the same time I don't laugh.gif

Rightfully, hit or miss. 

 

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Originally Posted by darthfett View Post


He needs it

He does. He needs a good coach to steer him back to his strength, not no rookie coach. 

post #77103 of 77126

D Rose is can be what a young Tony Parker used to be for the Spurs. 

Still athletic, still strong and still finish around the basket effectively. 

He still hits the mid range and has gotten even better at it as the season went on. 

 

What he did in NY, that system wasn't created for anyone to excel in and for all it's worth, everyone including Carmelo had their hands tied on what they can and can't do in the offense. 

To still average 18ppg, 4 reb and 4.6 assist, that's not bad in a new offense and a rookie coach. 

 

Now let's translate that to Pop's system. 

post #77104 of 77126
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Originally Posted by Buc Em View Post

Horford and IT just followed Hayward on IG 👀

don't mean nothing IMO

teams can't talk to players yet anyways laugh.gif
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post #77105 of 77126
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Originally Posted by Buc Em View Post

Horford and IT just followed Hayward on IG 👀

Boston's stars are obviously going to try to slide in his DMs
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post #77106 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post


We sacrifice Waiters for Hayward, that's how. No brainer IMO

JJ's getting 13-14+, you're sacrificing Waiters and JJ in that scenario and Hayward would have to be sold on Heat's core outside of them unless a trade or promise is made prior. I don't buy it

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post #77107 of 77126
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Originally Posted by LoveHateSelf View Post
 

wrong 

 

this is kawhis team 

 

Ya'll know what I meant. Kawhi's team & Aldrige is second, but whatever lmao not a big deal

post #77108 of 77126

Rose is absolutely terrible now.  People really don't understand.

 

Horrible defender.  Horrible court vision.  Bad shooter.  Inefficient scorer.  Makes his teammates worse and ruins the offense.  Can only drive full speed to the basket but isn't as athletic anymore.  Doesn't do anything else well.  Prone to crazy/childish antics on and off the court.

 

Coincidentally nice quote on this from Shea Sherrano's article today:

 

"Usually when I’m working on an article like this I’ll talk to a bunch of different people about a bunch of different things. One of those people is Sports-Reference’s Mike Lynch, who, if we can pretend for a moment like this is The Big Shortis my quant. He’s my numbers guy. He always has some remarkable stat or numerical observation that I’m not smart enough to figure out on my own. When I asked him about Derrick Rose, though, he didn’t even bother to offer up a stat. He just said that Derrick Rose needs to be sent “to a sub-basement somewhere.” So Rose is getting demoted. We’re all just going to agree to send him down to a basement somewhere and hopefully, after a while of his not receiving any checks, things will just sort of work themselves out naturally."

post #77109 of 77126
I wonder Crowder feels about this Hayward courtship
post #77110 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post

Boston's stars are obviously going to try to slide in his DMs

Who wouldn't?
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post #77111 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post

We sacrifice Waiters for Hayward, that's how. No brainer IMO
JJ's getting 13-14+, you're sacrificing Waiters and JJ in that scenario and Hayward would have to be sold on Heat's core outside of them unless a trade or promise is made prior. I don't buy it

I do.

I can assure you that James Johnson and Dion Waiters aren't going to be integral parts of Pat Riley's sales pitch to Gordon Hayward. JJ and Waiters were stopgaps. Riley isn't building around them. Let them go off and get their bags elsewhere. Riley is more ambitious.
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I'm a longtime Celtics fan, Hayward is not the answer to beat the Cavs
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post #77113 of 77126
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I do.

I can assure you that James Johnson and Dion Waiters aren't going to be integral parts of Pat Riley's sales pitch to Gordon Hayward. JJ and Waiters were stopgaps. Riley isn't building around them. Let them go off and get their bags elsewhere. Riley is more ambitious.

That's not the part I'm not buying, it's Hayward choosing to join a core of Whiteside/Dragic over his other options and Riley giving him 30 M just to stay under the watchful eye's of Lebron

 

Unless big trades are made, nah

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post #77114 of 77126
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Originally Posted by DA HEN View Post

I'm a longtime Celtics fan, Hayward is not the answer to beat the Cavs

I agree

Hayward won't change much at all IMO

I can understand wanting to have him, more fire power but the team overall won't be much better. look at the rest of the starters excluding IT and maybe Bradley. Hordford is overrated IMO and a liability
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post #77115 of 77126
I think white PG in Boston could make Cleveland work.
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post

I do.


I can assure you that James Johnson and Dion Waiters aren't going to be integral parts of Pat Riley's sales pitch to Gordon Hayward. JJ and Waiters were stopgaps. Riley isn't building around them. Let them go off and get their bags elsewhere. Riley is more ambitious.
That's not the part I'm not buying, it's Hayward choosing to join a core of Whiteside/Dragic over his other options and Riley giving him 30 M just to stay under the watchful eye's of Lebron

Unless big trades are made, nah

He stays in Utah and he's under the watchful eyes of GSW
He goes to Boston and he's still under the watchful eyes of LeBron
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post #77119 of 77126
Pretty sure Hayward will go to whichever state with the youngest age of consent.
post #77120 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post


He stays in Utah and he's under the watchful eyes of GSW
He goes to Boston and he's still under the watchful eyes of LeBron

Boston's probably a lot closer to challenging either of those teams than Heat are with Whiteside/Dragic/Hayward. Heat last year were a combination of their depth and not just Dragic/Whiteside, losing JJ/Waiters would be a big blow to getting a big FA... Nonetheless Hayward. He has better options and even more money available to him in Utah

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post #77121 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post

He stays in Utah and he's under the watchful eyes of GSW

He goes to Boston and he's still under the watchful eyes of LeBron
Boston's probably a lot closer to challenging either of those teams than Heat are with Whiteside/Dragic/Hayward. Heat last year were a combination of their depth and not just Dragic/Whiteside, losing JJ/Waiters would be a big blow to getting a big FA... Nonetheless Hayward. He has better options and even more money available to him in Utah

Valid points, we'll see how this unfolds. I'm optimistic that Riley will make a splash this offseason, be it Hayward or someone else.
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post #77122 of 77126
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Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers View Post

I think white PG in Boston could make Cleveland work.

White PG, Fultz off the bench and another big could do a lot for them if Cle doesn't improve much by then

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post #77123 of 77126
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Originally Posted by trey ohh five View Post


Valid points, we'll see how this unfolds. I'm optimistic that Riley will make a splash this offseason, be it Hayward or someone else.

I think they either make a big Whiteside centered trade for a star or try to get everyone back and add a cheap SF/PF or C when Reed gets 6-8 M's from someone. I'd like to see if Heat would have a chance to trade the 14th+ filler to Boston for Crowder if they get Hayward but that's a reach. Just hope they don't do anything crazy and draft well

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post #77124 of 77126
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Originally Posted by 100027 View Post

Rose is absolutely terrible now.  People really don't understand.

Horrible defender.  Horrible court vision.  Bad shooter.  Inefficient scorer.  Makes his teammates worse and ruins the offense.  Can only drive full speed to the basket but isn't as athletic anymore.  Doesn't do anything else well.  Prone to crazy/childish antics on and off the court.

Coincidentally nice quote on this from Shea Sherrano's article today:

"Usually when I’m working on an article like this I’ll talk to a bunch of different people about a bunch of different things. One of those people is Sports-Reference’s Mike Lynch, who, if we can pretend for a moment like this is 
The Big Short

is my quant
. He’s my numbers guy. He always has some remarkable stat or numerical observation that I’m not smart enough to figure out on my own. When I asked him about Derrick Rose, though, he didn’t even bother to offer up a stat. He just said that Derrick Rose needs to be sent “to a sub-basement somewhere.” So Rose is getting demoted. We’re all just going to agree to send him down to a basement somewhere and hopefully, after a while of his not receiving any checks, things will just sort of 
work themselves out naturally
."
I understand you and many don't like Rose. What you posted of your opinion isn't entirely true. Some are true and some are entirely off. To the least, to say he isn't athletic anymore is blasphemy 😂
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 Andre Iguodala had a simple response when asked if he wants to make a trip to the White House: "Hell Nah."

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 Stephen Curry says he doesn't want to visit the White House, but Warriors will make decision as a team.
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