Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[MVP]

If you don't think he deserved that MVP, this discussion is over.


 

Shaq should have been MVP

 

[DCAllAfrican]

finals appearance isn't an accolade either
especially when dudes get slandered for their finals record

It is an accolade when you are arguing against CP3, Melo, or TMAC

 

[nick.]

finals appearance isn't an accolade either
especially when dudes get slandered for their finals record

Repped again

 

[tyevvyotcu]

If you don't think he deserved that MVP, this discussion is over.


 

shaq was the mvp that year bro

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Who made that statement? I can find a bunch of dumb statements and paste them here, I just don't see the point in doing so

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[MVP]

Who is 'we' whoever you quoted that stupid statement from is saying it. Nobody here cares. Truly.

 

[Based Jesus]

This "if you dont have a ring then you wasted your life" nonsense has to stop.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

MVP that he had no business winning and a finals appearance in the weakest conference ever lol

Neither are his fault. Those are still both accomplishments on his resume whether people thinks he deserved them or not.

But again, based on that logic, just about everyone that plays in the NBA is an undwrachiever.

Most don't win wings
Most don't win a single award.

I don't understand what Melo was SUPPOSED to be that he never lived up to

 

[DCAllAfrican]

This "if you dont have a ring then you wasted your life" nonsense has to stop.

Blame the media and the stupid fans for bringing up in any Player A vs. Player B conversation

 

[rbk93]

So back to the main point.

We are essentially saying a role player that has deep playoff run success has had a better career than one of the brighter stars of this generation?

I said it's about equal due to the playoff success, otherwise it's obviously Melo.

Shaq should have been MVP

shaq was the mvp that year bro

Maybe if Shaq had a better record/worse roster, I'll agree.

 

[rbk93]

People saying AI didn't deserve MVP are probably in the same camp as those who think Rose shouldn't have won.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

But how are you going to give the, "Playoff Successs" edge to Iggy when his role on his playoff teams (that mattered) were extremely smaller roles than what Melo had to take on with his teams?

That makes sense to you?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

People saying AI didn't deserve MVP are probably in the same camp as those who think Rose shouldn't have won.

Media was mad at LeBron.

LeBron should have won

 

[MVP]

People saying AI didn't deserve MVP are probably in the same camp as those who think Rose shouldn't have won.

Award was Dwert's or Lebby's

 

[rbk93]

But how are you going to give the, "Playoff Successs" edge to Iggy when his role on his playoff teams (that mattered) were extremely smaller roles than what Melo had to take on with his teams?

That makes sense to you?

Most NBA players I'm sure would love to win a ring and he has done that.  Like I said, it's equal, but I can understand the argument he's trying to make.

Iggy's Finals MVP is no different from Kawhi's if you ask me as well.

Media was mad at LeBron.

LeBron should have won

Award was Dwert's or Lebby's

Has nothing to do with the media when the Heat were projected to top 72-10 at some point lol.  

I'm not understanding some of the logic being used here.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

The Media was mad at the DECISION.

To punish LBJ, he didn't win the MVP.

And I am sorry, you can't honestly believe all rings are created equal.

 

[rbk93]

The Media was mad at the DECISION.

To punish LBJ, he didn't win the MVP.

And I am sorry, you can't honestly believe all rings are created equal.

Bulls were 4 games better than a team that was projected to win 60+.  If LeBron truly deserved that MVP, at least have the #1 seed in all the NBA with the roster he had.

Never said that, but both Kawhi and Iggy had a 3-4 games stretch to win the Finals MVP award for them. 

 

[pmatic]

Heat roster was trash besides Bron, Wade and Bosh that first year. Bulls had the deeper team 1-10.

 

[rbk93]

Speaking in hindsight.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Since when was Crowder shooting 40% from 3? Jeez, him and Bradley sprouted (Maybe more of him than Bradley)

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Rose carried that damn team thru multiple injuries man . Yall always forget to mention that and it's the biggest reason he won mvp

 

[pmatic]

Rose carried that damn team thru multiple injuries man . Yall always forget to mention that and it's the biggest reason he won mvp

Nearly everybody played 82 games in the rotation except Noah and Booz that year.

Biggest reasons he won were because he was the best player on the best team in the league and it was a great story.

 

[gentrification]

Melo hasn't done **** since 03.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Nearly everybody played 82 games in the rotation except Noah and Booz that year.

Biggest reasons he won were because he was the best player on the best team in the league and it was a great story.

You say that as if Noah and booze were end of the rotation players . They were both starters, Noah played 48, boozer 59 and rose kept them rolling to be the best team over the super Heatles. That injury narrative played a huge role in it. Also I think that heat team went on close to a 20 game win streak so it's kinda revisionist to assume the bulls were just a better constructed team.

Edit-12 game win streak

 

[pmatic]

I'm not saying Noah and Booz were non-factors, but the Bulls were constructed to withstand injuries because they had a deep team and Thibs was not going to allow them to use injuries as an excuse to not win.

Dwight should've got the MVP anyways to me.