Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[Moheezy]

Potential trade targets for CLE:

Dwill
Rondo (???)
Jameer Nelson
I want to say B. Knight, but it will take some serious talking/ under the table stuff to land him.

Nelson and D Will fit the best as they can play off ball.

 

[trynafeelmink]

So Kyle Korver is that dude? Thought he shot his load a couple seasons ago. I had no idea he was that coveted of a player, smh.

When your on a team where your Guaranteed to get wide open shots having one of the best shoters in NBA history triples your value. Kyle Korver on the Hawks where he has to work to get open... isn't nearly as effective as Kyle Korver getting WIDE open looks due to Lebron/Kyrie driving and kicking.

 

[captaintuxable]

rashard lewis
vince
jameer
redick
is not worse than anything lebron had lol
so basically mj escapes the criticism because he had a competent front office and lebron didn't?
pippen was a top 5 guy and horace/rodman were all star players so how is that any different?
and he didn't nuke the eastern conference
miami was mediocre the year before he went and i don't even think toronto was a playoff team
I think alot of older cats are mad because lebron is the only person in the post jordan era to actually live up to and surpass the hype and that scares people

I wouldn't say he's surpassed the hype. Getting past GSW last year for me helped meet the initial hype no matter how strange a series that was. Those Miami titles don't weigh much for me. They beat a young OKC team in a lockout season and got the 1 against the Spurs and has played for a the vastly inferior conference his whole career.

But again, we gotta blame the media for a lot of this for ever making the Jordan comparisons. Never could understand that debate. Let that dude be great in his own lane without having to compare him to the standard.

 

[squatchnt]

So Kyle Korver is that dude? Thought he shot his load a couple seasons ago. I had no idea he was that coveted of a player, smh.

When your on a team where your Guaranteed to get wide open shots having one of the best shoters in NBA history triples your value. Kyle Korver on the Hawks where he has to work to get open... isn't nearly as effective as Kyle Korver getting WIDE open looks due to Lebron/Kyrie driving and kicking.

Well damn. Cle takes washed and rinses it out so its like new again.

 

[Moheezy]

I feel like Cavs could sign Nate Rob and be set.
He brings the right kind of energy and playmaking ability.

I would love to see Nate Rob light it up in the finals.

 

[captaintuxable]

lowkey wish that the NBA would go back to letting all-stars where their own jersey for the ASG. Props to Pat with my fav Jordan of all time.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Cleveland korver = Miami ray

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Actually I'm more of a fan of Kobe then mike personally but point blank... MJ is the greatest to ever do it & LBJ has not accomplished enough for this to even be debatable. i've listed these reasons time & time again through the years. he's gonna finish with close if not better stats then Mike, but he's gonna have to do some incredible things in the years coming to be on that plateau. Best of luck to him but son got a long way to go.

SMH at the Warriors for blowing that lead, one win away from ending this discussion forever

Also i just Reread your Statement about Orlando.... And all i gotta say is Stop Gassing it

1)Vince wasn't on that Squad
2) Jameer was hurt, Rafer alston was starting
3) JJ Reddick of that year is not JJ of today, he was averaging a whopping 9 minutes per game

that Magic team That he lost to was

Skip
Pietrus
Rashard
Hedo
Dwight

the only players who got more than 10 mpg off the Bench in that series were Courtney Lee & Anthony Johnson. And he was Favorited so heavy to win that Nike set up an entire add campaign around their dream match up of Kobe Vs Lebron..... and he ****** it up

1. Im not one of those dudes who thinks bron is better than mj or will ever be better. Bron is top 3-4 ever though.
2. Bron's last year in cleveland was 09-10 and Vince was definitely on that team. regardless of anything that orlando team was very well constructed and very good. stop trying to make it seem like they were trash.
3. in 09 look at bron's stats in the orlando series and tell me how it was his fault that they lost? lol
and also it's crazy how you say gsw blew that lead instead of giving lebron credit for putting on one of the best finals performances ever. seems like you're one of those irrational dudes.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Well damn. Cle takes washed and rinses it out so its like new again.

not CLE but any shooter is gonna look 100x better when your surrounded by 2 (maybe 3 on some nights) players who demand a double team. Bron's GM's his entire career have tailor made the offense & roster around his skillset, to compare the Best shooters OKC has had around KD/Westbrook the entire time was Anthony Morrow & maybe D-Fish(which they didn't play nearly enough) instead that continuously put players like Sefolosha, Roberson, waiters, Kanter, Perkins, Jackson etc etc.

Guys who all in one way or another take away from KD/Westbrook and hamper there games. Imagine trying to stop those two w/o being able to leave perimeter players WIDE open, Presti is great at finding talent but not necessarily talent that meshes with his best players.

Hell look at what the rockets have done this year with with James Harden. those pieces individually don't look great but when you put them around a special player and allow that player to do what he does best everybody wins.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

i feel like a 1st round pick for korver is still a lot. how many minutes is he going to get against GS when JR is a far better defender?

 

[MVP]

Korver shooting 41% this season from 3, that'll be damn near 50% now

 

[wavycrocket]

Actually I'm more of a fan of Kobe then mike personally but point blank... MJ is the greatest to ever do it & LBJ has not accomplished enough for this to even be debatable. i've listed these reasons time & time again through the years. he's gonna finish with close if not better stats then Mike, but he's gonna have to do some incredible things in the years coming to be on that plateau. Best of luck to him but son got a long way to go.

SMH at the Warriors for blowing that lead, one win away from ending this discussion forever

Also i just Reread your Statement about Orlando.... And all i gotta say is Stop Gassing it

1)Vince wasn't on that Squad
2) Jameer was hurt, Rafer alston was starting
3) JJ Reddick of that year is not JJ of today, he was averaging a whopping 9 minutes per game

that Magic team That he lost to was

Skip
Pietrus
Rashard
Hedo
Dwight

the only players who got more than 10 mpg off the Bench in that series were Courtney Lee & Anthony Johnson. And he was Favorited so heavy to win that Nike set up an entire add campaign around their dream match up of Kobe Vs Lebron..... and he ****** it up

Ayyy Ty.....we go at it in the music forum....but you on point today with your basketball talk man.

Straight facts all around.

Impressive to see thoughtful, factual, contextual posts.

My man

 

[carver]

Korver shooting 41% this season from 3, that'll be damn near 50% now

Prolly like 60

 

[tyevvyotcu]

I wouldn't say he's surpassed the hype. Getting past GSW last year for me helped meet the initial hype no matter how strange a series that was. Those Miami titles don't weigh much for me. They beat a young OKC team in a lockout season and got the 1 against the Spurs and has played for a the vastly inferior conference his whole career.

But again, we gotta blame the media for a lot of this for ever making the Jordan comparisons. Never could understand that debate. Let that dude be great in his own lane without having to compare him to the standard.

yeah i agree the miami titles held less weight but if you wanna diminish those titles you have to do that for everyone
steph (faced a depleted cavs team)
kobe faced 3 weak teams during that 3peat
mike played a washed lakers team
bird played a team with a losing record for one of his rings etc...

 

[wavycrocket]

1. Im not one of those dudes who thinks bron is better than mj or will ever be better. Bron is top 3-4 ever though.
2. Bron's last year in cleveland was 09-10 and Vince was definitely on that team. regardless of anything that orlando team was very well constructed and very good. stop trying to make it seem like they were trash.
3. in 09 look at bron's stats in the orlando series and tell me how it was his fault that they lost? lol
and also it's crazy how you say gsw blew that lead instead of giving lebron credit for putting on one of the best finals performances ever. seems like you're one of those irrational dudes.

But Ty was talking about Bron losing to the 09 Magic team WITHOUT VC.

Bron didn't play the 10 magic because he lost in the 2nd round to the Celtics.

The series where he gave up....

You on a roll today Savannah

You listen to this with Bron on your mind before you post?

 

[abubakr shaheed]

Korver shooting 41% this season from 3, that'll be damn near 50% now

Prolly like 60

i've seen him go ice cold one too many times in the playoffs to bet on that

 

[squatchnt]

Well damn. Cle takes washed and rinses it out so its like new again.

not CLE but any shooter is gonna look 100x better when your surrounded by 2 (maybe 3 on some nights) players who demand a double team. Bron's GM's his entire career have tailor made the offense & roster around his skillset, to compare the Best shooters OKC has had around KD/Westbrook the entire time was Anthony Morrow & maybe D-Fish(which they didn't play nearly enough) instead that continuously put players like Sefolosha, Roberson, waiters, Kanter, Perkins, Jackson etc etc.

Guys who all in one way or another take away from KD/Westbrook and hamper there games. Imagine trying to stop those two w/o being able to leave perimeter players WIDE open, Presti is great at finding talent but not necessarily talent that meshes with his best players.

Hell look at what the rockets have done this year with with James Harden. those pieces individually don't look great but when you put them around a special player and allow that player to do what he does best everybody wins.

It is indeed his blueprint. Impressive

 

[tyevvyotcu]

But Ty was talking about Bron losing to the 09 Magic team WITHOUT VC.

Bron didn't play the 10 magic because he lost in the 2nd round to the Celtics.

The series where he gave up....

You on a roll today Savannah

You listen to this with Bron on your mind before you post?

he said bron's only competition before leaving cleveland was the magic. bron left after the 2010 season
don't quote me though cause you troll once someone disagrees with you
you jumping in the convo and don't even know what you talking about.
just seen someone hating on bron so you started dickeating.
corny, bitter, and lame *** oldhead

 

[rck3sactown]

.@50cent claiming that @KenyonMartinSr and Tim Thomas--two ex-NBA players who beefed during playing days--will fight on his boxing card.
— Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixYS) January 6, 2017

 

[captaintuxable]

yeah i agree the miami titles held less weight but if you wanna diminish those titles you have to do that for everyone
steph (faced a depleted cavs team)
kobe faced 3 weak teams during that 3peat
mike played a washed lakers team
bird played a team with a losing record for one of his rings etc...

Yeah I wouldn't argue against any of those points.

Lockout season title tho goes in the bucket with the Spurs chip against the Knicks.

 

[tribals]

That's true 73 wins and 3-1 lead in Finals doesn't mean anything if you didn't get that ring. But just picture how KD was able to come in and instantly fit in to the system. Now imagine when they play together for another couple months and curry starts to get back in to form. That's dangerous right there

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Yeah I wouldn't argue against any of those points.

Lockout season title tho goes in the bucket with the Spurs chip against the Knicks.

respect...
just curious though who are you a fan of?

 

[trynafeelmink]

Ayyy Ty.....we go at it in the music forum....but you on point today with your basketball talk man.

Straight facts all around.

Impressive to see thoughtful, factual, contextual posts.

My man

facts tho, we def go at it but it ain't nothing g i like conversation in general.

 

[pmatic]

Hawks trying to sell off Hardaway Jr for second round picks per Zach Lowe. What a fire sale this could be.

 

[awwsome]

If the Raps ain't tryna get Milsap........