**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

Mamba MVP said:
I already knew all that what is your point?
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Look at it this way. Either way the Lakers owe ORL a pick in the next two years. ORL will either get our 2nd rounders in 2017 and 2018 or our first rounder in 2019.

Since the Lakers do not have a first rounder in 2018, the Lakers meanwhile have positioned themselves to AT LEAST have two second rounders in 2018 and 2019, which may or may not prove valuable. 

Which begs the question, is it more favorable for the Lakers to take their chances, hoping to win a top 3 pick in 2017 while standing pat before the deadline or start dealing assets in order to acquire a star so they can win sooner than later? Remember, the Lakers can improve their roster before the deadline via trade yet STILL manage to end up with one of the worst records to improve their draft chances. This way, the Lakers can conceivably get the best of both worlds, which is why I think they should be aggressive. We already know this roster as it stands now can't compete and the addition of JUST Ball, Fultz, Jackson, or Monk ain't gonna make us a playoff team either.

With the Lakers lack of picks, they're better served to acquire a star before the deadline imo because if their top 3 pick doesn't pan out as they expected, it's going to extend their rebuilding process even longer. The Lakers can wait til draft day to see if they can win a top 3 pick and perhaps dangle the pick as trade bait for a star, so this is also a viable option. 

But what if the Lakers can acquire a star before the deadline and only manage to give away Randle and Clarkson as the only young pieces to acquire that star? They can conceivably have a roster that includes a star but still manage to keep Ingram, Zubac, Nance, and DLo. And then if the Lakers acquire a star AND still manage to finish with the second or third worst record in the league because the Lakers' record is so far down in the standings that even the arrival of a star is not enough to salvage the season, the Lakers would still have a decent shot at landing that top 3 pick on draft night. Imagine that - a star on the roster, plus Ingram, Nance, Zubac, and DLo PLUS you get lucky and gain a top 3 pick. At that point, the Lakers would have even more options to be aggressive in the offseason and perhaps add ANOTHER star. 

This is why I say the Lakers need to be aggressive before the deadline to acquire a star player if it means having to give up a couple of your young core (e.g. choose two between Randle, Clarkson, Russell).
 
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Halcyon said:
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I'm locked down with Fultz at 1 & JJ at 2.
Toss up between Smith Jr & Ball at 3 for me.

Praying and hoping for that 1 pick tho. I think the gap between Fultz and 2 is similar to the gap between Simmons & Ingram.
 
i dont follow much college bball, could any of these potential PG prospects play with DLo? I still believe in him.
 
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It's hard to be mad when you making double what you should be...

I wonder if he rather be making 40 mil elsewhere
 
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After Monk puts up 37 (Fox didn't play) against unranked Georgia, he puts up a stinker with 11 against #24 Florida in a blowout loss. Makes me wonder if he has what it takes to succeed at the next level.

I'm slowly beginning to think De'Aaron Fox might be the better and more complete player. Against #7 UNC, Fox had 24 pts and 10 assists. Against #11 UCLA, he had 20 points and 9 assists. Against #10 Louisville, he had 21 points. Against #24 Florida, he had 19 points.

Both are 6'3" which means Monk is undersized for a SG. Fox meanwhile can do more with the ball besides just score.
 
If Lakers have to choose between trading Deng or Mozgov, that's an easy one. Trade the 7-footer so you can immediately start Zubac. The kid been ready for the challenge.
 
wHipLAshTw03 said:
If Lakers have to choose between trading Deng or Mozgov, that's an easy one. Trade the 7-footer so you can immediately start Zubac. The kid been ready for the challenge.
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Wrong
If a team is willing to take on either deal, you trade Deng cause 1, he's older, 2. Owed more money 3. Regressing far worse then Moz and 4. To use your argument against you , it opens up more min for BI


I see your point but mines makes more sense
We have better depth at the C position with Black and even Nance playing so great...but dengs corpse is the one you want to get rid of going forward (somehow )

don't be such a front runner man
 
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LoveHateSelf said:
 
wHipLAshTw03 said:
If Lakers have to choose between trading Deng or Mozgov, that's an easy one. Trade the 7-footer so you can immediately start Zubac. The kid been ready for the challenge.
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Wrong
If a team is willing to take on either deal, you trade Deng cause 1, he's older, 2. Owed more money 3. Regressing far worse then Moz and 4. To use your argument against you , it opens up more min for BI


It can really be argued both ways but IF someone is willing but you send Deng out before you send Moz out
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B.I. already getting 30 min plus WITH Deng in the lineup so no, your statement is wrong.

Moz is YOUNGER which means he's a more valuable trade chip that teams would want over Deng.
 
West rumored to be interested in coming back. I floated this out there a week ago..never question my sources. Are you ready for the leemelone effect?
 
My sources tell me Riles, Jerry and Magic will run basketball ops

Bertka will be Luke's top assistant

You heard it here first
 
Mozgov just needs to be traded
He's been a black hole on the team
And our FO was dumb enough to give him that contract
 
No one is taking Deng or Moz. We would have to attach a really good asset just to dump one of them.

I'm fine with Deng coming off the bench, Moz probably gets stretched after next year if he isn't involved in a bigger deal.
 
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