**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[WAKKO!]

Dlo in my honest opinion is a big piece moving forward. I don't care that he doesn't score 25+ a game, what I care about is someone being able to be consistent on a nightly basis. Yeah he has a lot of TO a game but that comes with learning. When he reaches 25 I wouldn't be surprised if he's an all-star. Players like him you must keep and develop.

 

[fayetnam]

Trade DLo and clarkson for Drose
#2 and Randle for George

 

[lovehateself]

 

Ingram is only available for cousins iirc.

Anyway pg has proven that he's not that guy who will carry a team to the promised land.

I mean, who HAS carried a team to the promised land in the East last 7 years other than Lebron?

youre kidding right? 

and if not

 James jones

 

[Lizakers]

Why so much hate on DLO still?

I can only speak for myself, I just don't like his skill set and I'd rather trade him while he has value and still young. Stats mean nothing to me, it's about skills. Shareef Abdur Rahim got stats, Jamaal Magloire was an all star......there are many examples like that.......means nothing.

I think having a slow, unathletic point guard who can't shoot off the dribble and has "old man game" at age 19-20 won't fly in this modern-day style of basketball. Think about it, is Dlo the type of player who you give the ball to with 10 seconds left and you need a bucket? Can he take two hard dribbles and elevate over a defender for a game winner? PG can, Jimmy B can, Kyrie can, and many other "elite" players. They've had that ability from early on.

Plus, I think if we draft ball, D'lo will absolutely be moved.

I don't think that's hate.

 

[lovehateself]

Trade DLo and clarkson for Drose
#2 and Randle for George

1. d rose is a FA

2. *****

 

[Mr Dink]

The same D Rose that's made of glass and will probably miss 75% of the season?

 

[tonelow]

 

Why so much hate on DLO still?

I can only speak for myself, I just don't like his skill set and I'd rather trade him while he has value and still young. Stats mean nothing to me, it's about skills. Shareef Abdur Rahim got stats, Jamaal Magloire was an all star......there are many examples like that.......means nothing.

I think having a slow, unathletic point guard who can't shoot off the dribble and has "old man game" at age 19-20 won't fly in this modern-day style of basketball. Think about it, is Dlo the type of player who you give the ball to with 10 seconds left and you need a bucket? Can he take two hard dribbles and elevate over a defender for a game winner? PG can, Jimmy B can, Kyrie can, and many other "elite" players. They've had that ability from early on.

Plus, I think if we draft ball, D'lo will absolutely be moved.

I don't think that's hate.

If we draft Ball, he's not a PG anymore so you don't have to worry about his speed as much. I don't know what you're watching because he's able to get a mid range jumper whenever he wants, if anything he relies on that too much. 

Like that article P posted said. You either see it with him or don't.

Ball and Dlo in the backcourt is deadly offensively. 

Ball push it in transition, Dlo will run pick and roll in the half court, groom Ingram to be that one on one mid post iso scorer.

 

[CP1708]

Lakers get to keep at minimum 6 outta the 8 young prospects (including 2 of the top 3) and add an All Star yet it's like the Melo situation. Don't make no gaddamn sense.

Well, for one you're making up trades. You act like Indy just gonna be like suuuuuuure, we'll take 2 guys you don't want and leave you 6, yesa massa.

Naw man. Not how it would work.

Trading Randle and Clarkson, or Randle and DLo is too costly for a guy you can get a few months later and keep those players. If you want to flip them for someone else AFTER signing George, then that can be worked out. No prob. I already said that.

If everyone is so sure George is coming, there is ZERO need to trade ANYONE for him. I don't care if it's Clarkson, Randle, DLo, nobody needs to be dealt for a guy that would want to come here as a free agent to begin with.

It's the Melo situation all over again, and it didn't work out for **** with Melo, it won't for us either.


If George TRULY wants to be here, let him come here with all our assets in house. Then if you want to deal 2-3 of those for a second star, to join George, then you can make that move if you feel it necessary.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I mean, who HAS carried a team to the promised land in the East last 7 years other than Lebron?

The point is that trading core pieces for Gatorade superstars is not a sound strategy

 

[Lizakers]

If we draft Ball, he's not a PG anymore so you don't have to worry about his speed as much. I don't know what you're watching because he's able to get a mid range jumper whenever he wants, if anything he relies on that too much. 

Like that article P posted said. You either see it with him or don't.

Ball and Dlo in the backcourt is deadly offensively. 

Ball push it in transition, Dlo will run pick and roll in the half court, groom Ingram to be that one on one mid post iso scorer.

I can respect that. I just don't like his game. Getting a high screen to get to a midrange set shot isn't as easy in the last 3 minutes of playoff games.

 

[Lizakers]

The point is that trading core pieces for Gatorade superstars is not a sound strategy

I totally agree, I"m not advocating to trade core pieces for PG.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Plus, I think if we draft ball, D'lo will absolutely be moved.

I'm sure it's happened plenty of times but can you give me some examples of this? A team drafting a player and then instantly trading away a guy who played the same position before the rookie even plays a game. I feel like it's way more common the other way around, the rookie getting traded for an established vet

 

[sohi 23]

His skillset is passing and shooting. Who on the lakers (besides Ball when he comes) can currently do that?

You're talking about getting shots off with 10 seconds left. You do realize Ball has absolutely 0 mid range game right? He's either taking step back jumpers or spot up shots. He rarely ever shoots off the dribble, which Dlo can do well.

Like others have said, you push the roc in transition with Ball like the 7 seconds or less Suns. Nobody is better than Ball at that. But when the game slows down in a half court setting, you'd rather have Dlo get the ball and create.

I don't understand why, on a team devoid of shooting and passing, you want to get rid of the best passer and shooter on the team. Especially when he's only 21.

 

[pmatic]

Why so much hate on DLO still?

I can only speak for myself, I just don't like his skill set and I'd rather trade him while he has value and still young. Stats mean nothing to me, it's about skills. Shareef Abdur Rahim got stats, Jamaal Magloire was an all star......there are many examples like that.......means nothing.

I think having a slow, unathletic point guard who can't shoot off the dribble and has "old man game" at age 19-20 won't fly in this modern-day style of basketball. Think about it, is Dlo the type of player who you give the ball to with 10 seconds left and you need a bucket? Can he take two hard dribbles and elevate over a defender for a game winner? PG can, Jimmy B can, Kyrie can, and many other "elite" players. They've had that ability from early on.

Plus, I think if we draft ball, D'lo will absolutely be moved.

I don't think that's hate.

D'Lo got more game winners than George though.

 

[WAKKO!]

I still think Dlo can be deadly just like CP3 is in the pick and roll

 

[Lizakers]

I'm sure it's happened plenty of times but can you give me some examples of this? A team drafting a player and then instantly trading away a guy who played the same position before the rookie even plays a game. I feel like it's way more common the other way around, the rookie getting traded for an established vet

You're right, it's very rare. But just the fact that they draft a pass-first PG (Ball) when you just drafted a PG with "elite vision" 2 years ago should tell you a lot.

 

[pmatic]

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[sohi 23]

Why do you act like only 1 player on the team should have elite vision? Don't you want everyone to be a good passer? Isn't it good to have a shooting guard with point guard skills? Why am I supposed to believe that's a bad thing?

 

[Lizakers]

It would be a good thing in that sense, you're right.

But if you have a pass-first, quick, althletic PG with range who can drive......then you need to fill other needs at the two spot. YOu don't need another guard with the same skill minus the quickness.

I prefer a strong, 6'6 shooting guard who can post and rebound as well as score

 

[sohi 23]

Dlo is really good out of the post and out rebounded most of his peers though. Plus he's 6'5 with decently long arms.

I don't want my SG posting up anyways. Hell I don't want anyone posting up. Let's get those threes up or easy shots in transition. Dlo's game is built for that too. When Ball is pushing the roc and Nance/Randle are running hard, filling that lane to the hoop with Dlo tracking behind for that spot up 3 >>>>>>

Also, Lonzo is fast in transition but he's not dribbling and shaking cats in half court. He's good at finishing around the rim but he needs to improve his ability to draw fouls and getting to the hoop in half court.

I don't think you're wrong tho, Dlo and Ball are similar in a lot of ways. Theyre gunna be soooo much fun to watch on offense, the defense will be a train wreck but I'll take it. Can't be much worse than the Dlo/Clarkson defensive backcourt anyway. Probably gunna have to put Ball on 2s.

 

[tonelow]

It would be a good thing in that sense, you're right.

But if you have a pass-first, quick, althletic PG with range who can drive......then you need to fill other needs at the two spot. YOu don't need another guard with the same skill minus the quickness.

I prefer a strong, 6'6 shooting guard who can post and rebound as well as score

You want Arron Afflalo?

I don't think you need that type of SG anymore.  It's all about ball movement and shooting now.

 

[MVP]

This shooter nonsense with D'Lo has got to stop. He's a scorer not a shooter.

 

[Lizakers]

You want Arron Afflalo?

I don't think you need that type of SG anymore.  It's all about ball movement and shooting now.

I'm confident Magic and Rob know what "it's all about now", so we'll see if D'lo is moved.

 

[(*Fin)]

This shooter nonsense with D'Lo has got to stop. He's a scorer not a shooter.

Just stop....

 

[tonelow]

This shooter nonsense with D'Lo has got to stop. He's a scorer not a shooter.

Is Devin Booker a good shooter? Jamal Murray? 

They all project to be good shooters.