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What position will Brandon Ingram excel at?

I think he's a 4 and he won't be able to reach his potential until he bulks and plays small ball 4 for the majority of the game.

Paul George coming in 2018 so I hope BI will be big enough to bang at 4 by then, cuz you know Paul George won't wanna do it.

Also, I've seen some people suggest Ingram @ the 2... that's ridiculous :lol:. He might be able to eventually guard 1-4, but using Ingram as a 1 or a 2 is a waste. I assume they did it last year because:
1. how weak he was
2. the logjam currently at the 4 w/ JR, Nance & Deng
3. the fact that they prolly just wanted to give him minutes
 
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Random question:

What position will Brandon Ingram excel at?

I think he's a 4 and he won't be able to reach his potential until he bulks and plays small ball 4 for the majority of the game.

Paul George coming in 2018 so I hope BI will be big enough to bang at 4 by then, cuz you know Paul George won't wanna do it. Also, I've seen some people suggest Ingram @ the 2... that's ridiculous
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. He might be able to eventually guard 1-4, but using Ingram as a 1 or a 2 is a waste (I assume they did it last year cuz how weak he was).
He will never be a 4 
 
BI is a 3, he'll excel at being a 3 both on offense and defense. PG plays the 2 when he gets here, pretty simple.
 
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Random question:

What position will Brandon Ingram excel at?

I think he's a 4 and he won't be able to reach his potential until he bulks and plays small ball 4 for the majority of the game.

Paul George coming in 2018 so I hope BI will be big enough to bang at 4 by then, cuz you know Paul George won't wanna do it. Also, I've seen some people suggest Ingram @ the 2... that's ridiculous
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. He might be able to eventually guard 1-4, but using Ingram as a 1 or a 2 is a waste (I assume they did it last year cuz how weak he was, but still).
I honestly dont know that Ingram will ever gain enough weight to play the 4.  He would have to gain at least 30 pounds of muscle to to be an undersized 4 and I dont think that will ever happen.  Some of these guys are just never able to put on weight and I think Brandon Ingram is going to be that type of person.
 
If we go with any small ball lineups PG would be playing 4 over Ingram.
KD also weighs 230-240.  Brandon ingram weights 190.  Ingram needs to gain a significant amount of weight to not be a matchstick on the defensive end.

Not to mention that Ingram is so undersized that it is probably going to take 3-4 years to get to a point where is weight is even slightly below average.  At this point gaining 20 pounds of muscle a year would do more harm to his frame than good.
 
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KD is some 40 pounds heavier than Ingram. It's not comparable at this point.

2018-2019:
Ball
PG
BI
Nance
Zu

:smokin
 
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I also feel like BI will struggle putting on the weight but PG is not a 4. PG doesn't wanna bang with any 4s in the league, he's said as much. And for the Lakers to reap the benefits of Luke's system, they'll need to be fast paced and excel at small ball.

In general, I assume BI/PG will be able to interchange 3/4 just like Lonzo/Dlo will interchange at the 1/2. I just feel like BI can never reach his potential masquerading as a 2/3. He needs to be a 4 so he can truly succeed like Jabari Parker for example
 
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BI gaining 30-40 lbs would dramatically change his game for the worse
not to mention the impact it will put on his joints from basically tying two extra cinder blocks worth of weight to his frame.  10 pounds a year would probably be best case scenario.  
 
He doesn't need to be a 4, that's ludicrous. Jabari is doughy like Melo a completely different body type. BI's much closer to an early Giannis than he is a Jabari. But like I said y'all boy going to be the odd man out. Neither PG nor BI are best served being at the 4. Especially defensively.
 
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I also feel like BI will struggle putting on the weight but PG is not a 4. PG doesn't wanna bang with any 4s in the league, he's said as much. And for the Lakers to reap the benefits of Luke's system, they'll need to be fast paced and excel at small ball.

In general, I assume BI/PG will be able to interchange 3/4 just like Lonzo/Dlo will interchange at the 1/2. I just feel like BI can never reach his potential masquerading as a 2/3. He needs to be a 4 so he can truly succeed like Jabari Parker for example
Dawg Jabari is 250 lbs wth u talking about 
 
KD just recently started playing the 4-5 in the past couple seasons. This is a long term proposal for BI. And again it would only be for stretches
 
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KD just recently started playing the 4-5 in the past couple seasons. This is a long term proposal for BI
Exactly.  At best he may have the body to safely play the 4 in 5 or so years.  It's definitely going to be an extremely time consuming process and the kid is going to have to stick with it.

Maybe he will link up with Eddie Lacy in the offseason to find out his secrets.
 
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Yeah it's gunna take a long time, but eventually that will be where he succeeds. If Ingram were to stay the same size and play 2-3 for the rest of his career, that would be an extreme waste of his potential.

I know the majority of Lakers fans hold BI in high regard, but I can't lie, I don't really feel the same way. 9-4-2 on 40-29-62 shooting splits w/ damn near 30ppg is horrendous for a #2 pick. He was terrible defensively too but I'll give him a pass cuz the Lakers team defense is the worst in the NBA and BI usually had to guard the opposing team's best wing.

Imo the most interesting storyline next year (and going forward) is BI's growth, not Dlo or Lonzo. Im sure he'll get better next year, but I just feel like he won't be able to reach his vast potential until he fully bulks up in how ever many years.


BI gaining 30-40 lbs would dramatically change his game for the worse

Right, because he played so well last year. We can't lose that.
 
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This is the 1st year KD has played anything even close to the majority of his minutes at PF. And that's in year 10 in a unique system that's not replicated anywhere else due to their personnel. Every other season at most he's been at 25% of his minutes at the 4. If it's not been feasible for him why in the world even long term would it be feasible for BI. He's a perimeter player with length that's advantage like KD will be getting his shot off over people. He'll add strength that'll make him a more effective finisher. People forget KD was a SG when he came in.
 
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