Why do people keep saying bad guys finish first nice guys last?

Girls like that challenge of getting a guys attention/changing him...guy is in full control of the situation from there on
 
You can't choose who you're attracted too. Some girls are into "bad guys" cause that's what they like. Edgey is an attribute some girls just like. I don't think it's a matter of liking a challenge to change someone. Just as many girls out there that are into guys that don't need changing.
 
I'll say this, I see a lot of pretty chicks with dusty dudes. Now a days. I think chicks wanna get tossed by the bad boy but won't settle down with one. Women in general want their mate to be nice and loving. That leaves me out in the cold. [emoji]128545[/emoji]
 
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I will say that being pretty straight up with girls tends to be more effective...all that 'wanna get to know you' dialogue only opens the door for that friendzone...you not gonna go up to a chick and say 'i wanna smash' straight up (though some chicks are about it :evil:) but the more time you spend talking, the less time you spend doing
 
It's really not about being nice or an a-hole. It's about being you. Trying to consciously lean toward either extreme for a said outcome or conclusion will only lead to that individual ultimately playing them self in the end. Ain't no blueprint to this ish. Just do you at the end of the day and if they don't rock with it... eff 'em!
 
What if you're naturally a push over and a wimp?
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krazy88s said:
What if you're naturally a push over and a wimp? :lol:  
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Then you better develop a sharp tongue. Saying "no" and being verbally direct about what you want from a situation is a good place to start. People who mince their words will usually mince their thoughts and feelings too.
 
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What if you're naturally a push over and a wimp?
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Chances are you're probably lacking in some departments then

General social skills, social-confidence, self-worth, etc.

Normal people dont allow themselves to be walked on or invite people to walk over them
 
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It's true.

I learned that lesson back in HS. No matter how assertive or dominant women may say they are, they are naturally submissive and look for someone who can make them feel that way. There are limits to this though, you can't go around knocking them down on the daily. It's a bittersweet type of approach that needs to be taken. So if you're looking to win over the woman of your dreams by complimenting her daily, buying her whatever she wants, and ending the day with a foot massage for her and take the role from her you're going nowhere.
 
I think its more like Nice guys finish last to young girls/ young women.
Grown women want nice guys because they are tired of getting used and abused by the so called bad boys.

In reality women dont really want bad boys. They want someone with a little edge to their personality.
Someone with some mystery, and something to be discovered.

Remember, women(especially the fine ones) get hit on ALL THE TIME. They dont want to hear and see the same old thing.

But ultimately, they dont want bad boys. That is why you always hear women talking about there aint no good men left(cause some bad boy did them dirty...again)
and then you see them later, and they are with someone completely different from what they are "used to".


Edit: JUST READ ART OF SEDUCTION by Robert Greene(48 Laws) and get yambs
 
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CashBanks said:
What the **** is this? [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]
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That **** is ridiculous...

Cats gotta learn a new language just to understand that mess.

Just don't be a doosh to the ladies, try to be reasonably presentable, and go talk to them

10% hit rate is still 10% yambs.
 
If you only wanna smash, disregard the following.

You gotta learn how to say no. If you're already in a relationship, gotta spice it up by doing spontaneous things, but you gotta tell her straight up she isn't pulling her weight if she won't do that as well. She is an able body human being, And it's okay to take care of her once in a while. But if you make it a habit, RIP.

And of course in the end if she's not interested in you it means shes not interested in a guy who has mad handles, who is intellectual, cool, athletic/in shape, successful, ambitious, going places in life, not bad looking , respectful, protective, strong when needed, sensitive when needed, expressive, self confident, and can deal with diversity.
 
The book that got me right with the yambs is Mode one by Alan roger curry. Straight gems :pimp:
 
So far:

Laws of Seduction
Mode One


What else is out there? :nerd:
 
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