Califorinians: What do you think about Proposition 64? Update: It has passed.

Update

Now That Proposition 64 Passed, When Can California Start Smoking Weed?


Tomorrow.

No, really. At the stroke of midnight Nov. 9, the recreational use of marijuana will be legal in California.

While most voters were anxiously glued to Tuesday night’s elections coverage waiting to see who the next leader of the free world would be, Californians were closely eyeing Proposition 64, also known as the “weed one.”

Well, congratulations, California–the weed law (if you want to get technical, The Adult Use of Marijuana Act) passed in the Golden State, so feel free to light one up in celebration.

Although medical marijuana had already been legal in the state for 20 years — and even without a legitimate card, the most trouble anyone caught smoking would get in is probably a slap on the wrist — now cannabis is free for all.

Of course under the new law, you must be 21 years of age or older to smoke weed and you can’t just do it wherever you’d like or suddenly become the weed plug.

Smokers can only be in possession of an ounce and you can’t smoke it in public lest you are ready to be slapped with a $100 fine. And driving under the influence of marijuana is also illegal).

If you want to open up shop and start selling cannabis, you have to tell Big Brother… uhh I mean the State, first, and then Bureau of Marijuana Control will issue you a license to do so, after you pay a fee of course. So, no, your local dispensary still cannot sell marijuana to you without a medical card until the shop gets licensed–which is required to happen by January 2018.

Happy smoking.

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For those that don't know:

California Proposition 64, the California Marijuana Legalization Initiative, is on the November 8, 2016, ballot in California as an initiated state statute. Supporters refer to the initiative as the Adult Use of Marijuana Act.

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Changes to state law

Proposition 64 would allow adults aged 21 years or older to possess and use marijuana for recreational purposes. The measure would create two new taxes, one levied on cultivation and the other on retail price. Revenue from the taxes would be spent on drug research, treatment, and enforcement, health and safety grants addressing marijuana, youth programs, and preventing environmental damage resulting from illegal marijuana production.

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What would penalties be?

Individuals under age 18 convicted of marijuana use or possession would be required to attend drug education or a counseling program and complete community service. Selling marijuana without a license would be punishable by up to six months in a county jail, a fine up to $500, or both.

If Proposition 64 is approved, individuals serving criminal sentences for activities made legal under the measure would be eligible for resentencing.

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Source: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_64,_Marijuana_Legalization_(2016)


This is an interesting one to me as you have a lot of long time activists supporting it, while others feel like this will ultimately allow a corporate takeover, even though this would impose a 5 year block on large scale operations. Some are also concerned that it will be the death of medical marijuana, which I'm told has occurred in Washington and Oregon. I really like the fact that it will effectively decriminalize marijuana usage and possession for those who are under aged.

Do you think it will pass? Do you think it should pass?

Old people isn't going to allow this..

Never been to cali but the way you hear things you can get a medical card for damn near anything so what would this really solve?

Pushak513 said:

Never been to cali but the way you hear things you can get a medical card for damn near anything so what would this really solve?

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Those that are under age wouldn't go to jail for marijuana posession/use, and those who are currently incarcerated for laws this would change could get resentencing. Also, this would legalize recreational use so you wouldn't need a card.

I hate that people here call weed "medicine"

For some people, it is.

We have a similar prop in AZ I voted yes on, Prop 205. Not a chance it passes, but I'm proud to say I tried

Meh, don't smoke. Wonder if it gets legal, would jobs still run drug tests?

I'm in Nevada, they have recreational marijuana on the ballot too, I will be voting in favor of it. I don't smoke, and I think that some in the "legalize crowd" are kinda full of it, but I support legalization for many reason.

Yes big corporations will probably take over the industry in the not so distant future, which I oppose for many other reasons as well. But yeah, it is kinda unavoidable.

However, I see this playing out like state lotteries did back in the day (which is legalized gambling), in that tax revenue will be given to schools in the short term, but in the long run the extra tax revenue will most likely be used to give businesses tax breaks

But, Cali seems like one of the best ran state in the country, so my fears might be a little misplaced regarding them.

KILL MOVES said:

I hate that people here call weed "medicine"

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For some people, a CBD-rich plant is the difference between living with pain and having a normal life.

Pushak513 said:

Never been to cali but the way you hear things you can get a medical card for damn near anything so what would this really solve?

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Good question.

For many Californians, Cannabis is already de facto legalized. How there are people who really cannot spare the money for a medical card so their is still a black market (albeit greatly diminished since medical cannabis was athorized in 1996). Poor people and people of color are still stopped, searched and pulled into the criminal justice system because of simple marijuana possession or sales of cannabis.

The weird thing is that the main opposition to prop 64 is not really older folks of the "tough on crime" conservatives, it is privileged white stoners. They are talking about how "big pharma" will take over and weed will be less dank. Every civil rights and civil liberties group endorses prop 64 but middle class white folks are more worried about a potential drop in potency of their pot and don't care about black and brown folks.

I am all for legalizing cannabis (and all narcotics for that matter) but sometimes stoners can be pretty obnoxious.

So vote yes on prop 64, do it mostly for civil and human rights as well as slightly more convenient Kush (especially if you're like me and you want to smoke once in a blue moon).

TeamJordan79 said:

For some people, a CBD-rich plant is the difference between living with pain and having a normal life.

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People should not be denied cannabis which is undeniably a strong palliative and for some is a genuine cure or treatment for serious medical conditions.

It is a tad ironic though, that a lot of pro cannabis folks want to severely restrict other people's access to opioids, a substances that also allows many people to drastically improve the quality of their lives.

Legalize it

DaNiKeRhiNo said:

Meh, don't smoke. Wonder if it gets legal, would jobs still run drug tests?

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Yes.

Under California Law, all employers may conduct pre employment drug screenings. However most employers may not conduct random drug tests on current employees. The exceptions are those jobs that are considered to have special safety concerns such as those who operate large vehicles of those who operate heavy machinery.

Massachusetts is going through legalization and I early voted. I am with California for legalizing it.

KILL MOVES said:

I hate that people here call weed "medicine"

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educate yourself

Guys how much do you believe this law will pass.

I was watching this interview with the Game and he said that if you invest some money into some of these dispensaries you will make a killing if they pass the law.

Was thinking about dumping some money in these stocks and hopefully make a quick come up

Rexanglorum said:

The weird thing is that the main opposition to prop 64 is not really older folks of the "tough on crime" conservatives, it is privileged white stoners. They are talking about how "big pharma" will take over and weed will be less dank. Every civil rights and civil liberties group endorses prop 64 but middle class white folks are more worried about a potential drop in potency of their pot and don't care about black and brown folks.

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I don't see a correlation between the "big pharma" concern, and, lack of empathy for black and brown folks. It seems you have made that negative connection yourself. Do you have a source for this? I don't believe it because I'm in the industry and everyone I have met is pro legalization.But like I said, if you have a source I'd be interested in seeing it. You said "they are talking"; who is "they'? I'm always trying to learn more and I don't live in Cali so if that is really the attitude out there I'd like to hear more of your opinion on it.

WE, by we I mean members of the cannabis community pushing for legalization, are fully aware of the injustices minorities have suffered due to the combination of corrupt police practices, racial profiling, and absurdly harsh sentences for minor posessions/sales. WE care about "black and brown folks" because they have been some of the biggest pioneers of this industry, and collectively, we are ALL against big business. It is not fair the amount of INCARCERATED FELONS that have resulted from non-violent marijuana crimes. WHEN it is legalized, will the records of these people be wiped cleaned? This is a very big issue. Can you imagine getting out of jail and thinking you'll finally being able to LEGALLY enter the industry, pay taxes, etc.. do what you love and help other people with medicine only to find out that you still have that prior FELONY from a few grams? You have a FELONY from an antiquated law that is preventing you from now entering legally. What a slap in the face. It's the Drug War 2.0. Except this time, it's against big pharma and not the police.

We are against "big pharma" not because we don't care about black and brown folks. It's the opposite in my mind really. We've all been doing this underground for a while now. When it's legal we want the opportunity to start businesses that will set the standard for the industry. We want our slice of the pie and to continue to uphold the quality standards we've set. We a network of small businesses collaborating together to work for the people more than for a profit. Big pharma ONLY cares about profit. Keep them out. A loss in potency is a concern but it's at the bottom of the list really. You can't scale craft. Dank buds are always going to be around, always. Big pharma is scary because they have the power to influence politics to pass laws that will only allow them to benefit on their own at the expense of all the little people who care about the continual cultivation of the plant and their craft more than money. They will pump out a product that is poor quality, it will be extremely cheap, it will hurt small businesses in the same way Big Box stores have. You see, the main concern isn't loss of potency, it's NOT being able to participate in what we've spent our lives contributing to and buidling because big pharma swoops in with billions and won't allow us to compete.

Putting In Work said:

Guys how much do you believe this law will pass.

I was watching this interview with the Game and he said that if you invest some money into some of these dispensaries you will make a killing if they pass the law.

Was thinking about dumping some money in these stocks and hopefully make a quick come up

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It's not how much, it's when. It WILL pass and be legal in our lifetime. Sooner than you'd think.

And yes, Game is right.

Hennessy said:

Putting In Work said:

Guys how much do you believe this law will pass.

I was watching this interview with the Game and he said that if you invest some money into some of these dispensaries you will make a killing if they pass the law.

Was thinking about dumping some money in these stocks and hopefully make a quick come up

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It's not how much, it's when. It WILL pass and be legal in our lifetime. Sooner than you'd think.

And yes, Game is right.

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But I'm asking is do you believe it will pass next week when they vote on it.

A lot of Marijuana stocks are penny stocks though so I'm a little iffy on it all.

If it comes becomes legal or not the way the medical marijuana is you might as well say is legal
in you guys in cali are so damn lucky

my question how many of your California niketalkers want legal pot ?

i know i would if lived in LA or anywhere in cali
i would go vote for it if i lived in cali before i would vote for the damn president

i believe pot will never be legal in nys

160jordansdeep said:

If it comes becomes legal or not the way the medical marijuana is in you guys in cali are so damn lucky

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It's going to spread to the rest of the country though.

It'll come to NY once they see the money it's making.

Honestly a lot of the dispensary weed is not all that anymore in Cali. The medical stores started buying from regular growers at a cheaper cost and selling it back and it's hurt the quality and potency of the business.

You can still get really good week in NY, but it's still hard to find really good Haze like when dipset was popping in the early 2000's. Not Cali, Colorado or anywhere has really good legit Haze.

I'm going to do some more research and enter the stock thread because I'm doing my googles and they're saying it's going to pass with a landslide win now.

Meh.. police don't trip off greenery that much out here. F the dispensarys... rather cop from the homie.. support your local community.

Putting In Work said:

It's going to spread to the rest of the country though.

It'll come to NY once they see the money it's making.

Honestly a lot of the dispensary weed is not all that anymore in Cali. The medical stores started buying from regular growers at a cheaper cost and selling it back and it's hurt the quality and potency of the business.

You can still get really good week in NY, but it's still hard to find really good Haze like when dipset was popping in the early 2000's. Not Cali, Colorado or anywhere has really good legit Haze.

I'm going to do some more research and enter the stock thread because I'm doing my googles and they're saying it's going to pass with a landslide win now.

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i hope your right but i "highly" doubt it will become legal anytime soon in NYC

i'm hoping Boston will vote to legalize marijuana also in this election

that uptown haze is a nyc thing coming from florida the dominicans always has the raw haze on lock

im sure if you get haze in another state its not the same

in the early 2000's i got the haze that we have in nyc in Holland and it was so good

its originally called neville's haze some of the best smoke in the world

it takes a very long to to flower that's why commercial growers dont mess with it