How White Women Are Drinking Themselves To Death

I'm not a white girl and I rarely drink nowadays. When I meet up with friends for happy hour or birthdays every 2-3 months I binge drink pretty hard. I mostly hang with Asians and you'd think some were actually alcoholics.
 
I havr privilege as a man, especially a straight man. For me to deny that is foolish. Same goes for white privilege and no you dont have to be a wealthy white man to be privileged. Theres an article called explaining privilege to a broke white person, i suggest you look at it.

People act like it's a hard concept to wrap their minds around OR they think playing dumb is fooling someone.
 
i don't see why cats hate H2H so much
i appreciate his threads
and i don't see why the people who don't like him always come in to the thread to take shots at him

its literally the thing every thread


Waste more time taking vague shots at h2h instead of addressing the topic at hand. I've yet to see a real, relevant, rational argument against dudes threads other than "they stir ****". Reminds me of the reactions to celebs protesting anything.

H2H makes white people who are insecure, in denial, or overly defensive about their privilege uncomfortable. It's that simple.
 
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I just went back and read all the savagery/stupidity that I missed from titaniumhead. :rofl: The sad part is there's significant chunk of the country that thinks like. :x


Him talking about juking negroes to get to the stadium. What kinda stadium is he going to? :rofl:  
He was talking about Grambling's homecoming game. [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]
 
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He was talking about Grambling's homecoming game. [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

:rofl:

How you get legit shook by a bunch of black students?


I was thinking "hmm football, maybe it was a Raiders game and dude took a detour to Berkeley and then took the freeway instead of driving on surface streets." I mean it still would have been a SWS thing to do but that's not nearly as bad as avoiding a bunch of Andre 3000's at a g-damn HBCU football game.
 
This is news to y'all not to me though. Went to a predominantly white private high school with sexy *** white girls and all of Em got wasted.

I used to smash this shorty named Scooter who was blonde beautiful eyes and a huge rack we used to get ****** up then id get the drunk yambs. First night we smashed we drunkenly ran into juvenile crazy. Long story short she got worse and worse but she ended up going to rehab and it ****** our relationship up.


Don't let it get that far NT
 
Wine-Themed T-Shirts Are for Thin, Rich White Women
Who gets to wear a shirt that says “Margaritas made me do it”?

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https://www.racked.com/2017/8/8/16086220/alcohol-wine-shirts-rose-all-day

T-shirts have given up, and the “I can’t even” spirit has evolved into a fashion statement — Forever 21 stocks shirts that proclaim “nobody cares,” while Goop hawks $60 “Why am I so effing tired?” tees. We’re too exhausted from adulting to be ostentatiously clever, they seem to tell us. But the most troubling trend is the proliferation of designs for the fun, casual alcoholic, like those that say “Rosé All Day."

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Today's Miss Havishams, instead of wearing faded wedding dresses among cobwebs and stopped clocks, wear Gwyneth Paltrow-approved athleisure and sip red wine while plotting a slow-burn revenge. Or, if the shirts are to be believed, gulp red wine. Why are women interested in buying tops that broadcast the trials and tribulations that occur behind closed doors?

“We are in a whole new era of graphic T-shirts,” says Jason Reed, one of the founders of Sub_Urban Riot, a clothing company that sells shirts with phrases like “Stop and Smell the Rosé” and another that lists off the ill-advised diet of “Tequila Smoothies Kombucha Craft Brew Green Juice Iced Coffee.” “With the emergence of Instagram and Snapchat, T-shirts can now be used as a wearable meme. A good tee and a drink makes for an easy selfie opportunity.”

So do boozy shirts signal that society has officially accepted the fact that women are drinking more in generalalmost as much as men — and are an active part of casual-drinking culture? Or are they a mild form of rebellion, a middle finger to anyone who thinks that women and alcohol shouldn’t mix?

“There's a historic (and false) presumption that women are irrational, frivolous, and flighty,” says Kim Jenkins, a visiting assistant professor of fashion history and theory at Pratt Institute and part-time lecturer at Parsons School of Design who specializes in the intersections between fashion, race, gender, psychology, and politics. “T-shirts that express a preoccupation or excitement over alcohol support an idea that ‘femininity’ and sobriety are distant relatives. We see men walk around in their favorite beer T-shirts, but there are fewer hoops to jump through when it comes to assumptions about their character.”

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Character assumptions aren’t made through the shirts alone. So much of the takeaway is a product of the body itself — gender, race, age, presentation, and size influence our interpretations of a person’s capabilities, preferences, and socio-economic class whether we want them to or not. We live in a society tightly controlled and manipulated through the propagation of stereotypes, and wearing a shirt that advertises alcohol in some capacity demonstrates a certain awareness that your body doesn’t match society’s go-to stock photos of someone with a problem.

A slim white women with smear-free makeup and just-the-right-size quad muscle-accentuating Lululemon yoga pants is the target demographic for a shirt that says something akin to “Burgers Fries and a Cosmo.” She’s the Equinox goddess who can post #cheatday without all of Instagram fat-shaming her — or the celebrity who’s hailed as “all of us” when she eats an entire cheesecake by herself. She’s the very image of normalcy, if normalcy were stylized and photographed by Annie Leibovitz.

“Our target customer starts with someone who drinks socially and isn’t afraid to let people know,” says Steve Nanino, president of Kid Dangerous, which sells men’s and women’s tees in national department stores like Bloomingdale’s and Macy’s. “They’re usually in their mid-20s, like to party, and like to stand out from the crowd... Whether it’s watching sports going to a club or a concert, they have activities in their lives that are important to them [and] they just so happen to be drinking while doing it.”

It’s not a far leap to imagine that they are part of the same contingent that’s turned the whole drunk-brunch trend into a phenomenon so quotidian that it’s now just referred to as brunch. Drunk brunch in itself — downing mimosa after Bellini after frozen margarita before the sun begins to set — is inarguably a privilege, and, in a sense, performative. Drunk-brunch enthusiasts are consciously presenting themselves as people who cannot be accused of being alcoholics, all the while behaving kind of like one.

Plus, when it comes to protecting your personal image while boozing, there’s safety in numbers — a group of 20-somethings slinging back rum punch at 10 a.m. wearing “Sunday Funday” tees or a cavalry of bridesmaids wearing matching “Ready to Get Wed White & Boozed” tank tops are often granted a free pass to act outside of the norm. “Within the context of a specific occasion, there’s the forgiveness of irrationality,” says Jenkins.

Aside from the under-35 crowd, there’s another group of women who are target consumers for booze-themed shirts: moms. The mothers calling wine “mommy juice” and organizing mom-only drunk brunches seem to come from a similar, albeit slightly updated, world depicted in Betty Friedan’s The Feminine Mystique: (white) women who yearn for something beyond the sphere of home, but who are also exhausted by their responsibilities as parents and need a release.

“Our brand started and evolved last fall,” says Erin, a Texas-based mom who runs the Etsy shop Champagne Stitch with her friend Kim (both women declined to give their last names). Champagne Stitch sells shirts with phrases like “Cabernet All Day” and “Margaritas With My Senoritas.” “It was time for our kids to return to school, and our ‘mom squad’ started getting together monthly for mimosas instead of trekking to the neighborhood pool [with] kids in tow… It’s become apparent that these women want more to their identity, outside of kids.” It was during one of these adults-only sessions that the idea for the Champagne Stitch was born.

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Friends From College costume designer Jacqueline Demeterio says, “It was all done out of humor, and also to show the tight friendship of this group of people... Like, we are all going to do this together no matter how ridiculous we look. They are admitting ‘yes, we all enjoy drinking wine together and making fun of ourselves.’”
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According to Erin, the mothers who wear these tees “want to outwardly express that while they have the usual obligations (parenting, jobs, etc.), they still like to have fun.”

Christy Lamb, the director of strategy and development at Moms-in-Film, attributes the “we need wine to get by” trope to something else entirely. “It’s [about] the systemic lack of support we give mothers,” she says. “Wine is an acceptable vice to joke about using as a way to take the edge off. I [sometimes] like to have a glass of wine at the end of the day... but it's troublesome how we laugh off the fact that mothers are overtaxed and resort to less-than-healthy means of coping.”

But not every mother can flaunt a tee with a graphic of a bottle opener and the phrase “mom’s fidget spinner”; these shirts are reserved for moms who exceed expectations of what it means to be the matriarch of a heteronormative middle- to upper-class family. They’re chaperoning their kids from soccer to the SAT tutor and helping their daughters sell Girl Scout cookies by guilting the rest of the moms in the synagogue's sisterhood committee to buy a box — because, true story, they’re all kosher.

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The moms who can wear “Mama Needs Wine” shirts are not the same moms who have to worry about their children being taken away and placed in the foster-care system. All of the Desperate Housewives, Alicia Florrick on The Good Wife, and Jules Cobb on Cougar Town can drink glasses of vino for comedic effect and still be likeable and attentive mothers. As Cameron Glover points out in her piece “Just Who Gets to Be a ‘Bad Mom’?” written about the 2016 comedy starring Kristen Bell, Mila Kunis, and Kathryn Hahn, maintaining the audience’s sympathy even while behaving “badly” is a privilege primarily reserved for cis white women. No one would laugh if Mo’Nique’s character in Precious wore a shirt promoting alcohol, but Jules can chug wine out of a goblet with the same regularity and get off scot free. It’s part of what a 2013 Boston Globe article refers to as “wine-as-reward culture.” Drunkenness is only a prize for high-achieving mothers — for them “use is glorified,” while for those who don’t fit that mold, it’s something to be ashamed of.

Sheri Bottom, the owner of Sheribottomline and the creative force behind shirts with lines like “Daydrinker” and “Killin’ My Liver on the River,” says she’s seeing moms wearing her designs in the presence of their kids with increased regularity. “I think [moms casually drinking is] more of the norm now, [and] that is why I created these designs,” she says. “I believe the glass ceiling has been shattered.”

However, the new paradigm of conspicuous drinking is further complicated through expensive booze merch designed to conceal the consumption of alcohol. Alcohol-centric tees imply that enjoying alcohol is copacetic, yet apparently it’s also something to hide. But if you’re going to hide it, it can’t just be in a paper bag — that would make you an alcoholic. Instead, you need to drop hundreds on shoes with hidden compartments and designer bangles that hold just enough for a midday slurp. Again, wealth becomes the get-out-of-jail-free card (literally) for moms who indulge.

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Even within the categories of moms and 20-somethings, there are further limitations for who’s “allowed” to sport a boyfriend-fit “Where There’s a Will There’s a Rosé” tee. Along with body type, projected class, and context, there’s a racial element as well. If the wearer weren’t slim, if she weren’t white, if she weren’t wearing a strappy sports bra that looks more like a cat’s cradle than a piece of underwear or living in a good school district, the reception would be a whole lot uglier.

“A black body boldly wearing a shirt that promotes alcohol consumption would be subject to respectability politics — this precarious process of reconciling one's self-presentation in order to contest the stereotypes presumed about them,” explains Jenkins, listing laziness, slovenliness, and a lack of sophistication or intellect as examples of ugly presumptions.

“Marginalized cultures have a great deal at stake when it comes to self-presentation. At the heart of the matter, there is physical, emotional, and intellectual labor expended by raced, classed, and other marginalized wearers of clothing in order to appear acceptable and non-threatening. Ultimately, this performative labor efficiently keeps a hierarchal power structure intact, reinforcing boundaries and maintaining privilege.”

Still, that doesn’t stop everyone from keeping their affinity for alcohol on the down low — nor should it. Shakira, a self described “full-bodied” NYC-based nonprofit director, is not concerned about what others might think, though she purposefully only wears her “I Run for Wine” shirt to yoga or the gym. “The fact that I am even in workout gear and actually in a yoga studio or in a gym when you see me [in the shirt] is already upending stereotypes about black women,” she says. “The popularity of organizations like Black Girls Run is because there is this narrative that black women don't run, don't swim or work out.”

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Monique Judge, a staff writer for The Root whose profile picture features her wearing a shirt that says “Chubby and Harder to Kidnap,” has a similar stance on her graphic tee collection, saying that she wears them regardless of what people think.

“One of my favorite shirts says ‘I live on Caffeine, Afro and Cuss Words,’ and it has a picture of a black woman with a big afro on it,” she says. “People love that shirt and always compliment me on it. I guess it's easy to like because the representation on the shirt is of a black woman. It's sassy, and people relate that to black women anyway, so it's non-threatening.

“Shirts with liquor slogans are my favorite, and I have plenty of those as well... I know there is a stigma attached to black women wearing anything that shows how liberated they are in their personhood. We're supposed to be quiet, stay in our place and not be too proud.”

But Judge has a message for those who’d rather her be neither seen or heard.

“**** staying humble; I'll wear what I want.”

And cheers to that.
 
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Red, White & Booze: 37mn Americans are 'Binge Drinkers,' CDC Study Says
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https://www.rt.com/usa/421605-us-binge-drinking-study/

Americans are no strangers to boozing it up, according to a new study that found that one in six US adults are binge drinkers. Alcohol enthusiasts in the US are chugging a collective 17.5 billion "binge drinks" per year.

The study, conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, found that 37.4 million Americans, or one out of every six adults, binge drink about once a week. They drink an average of about seven drinks per binge, meaning they chug a collective 17.5 billion drinks each year. That boils down to about 470 binge drinks, per binge drinker, annually.

“This study shows that binge drinkers are consuming a huge number of drinks per year, greatly increasing their chances of harming themselves and others,” study co-author Robert Brewer, lead researcher in the CDC's alcohol program, said in a statement.

The results came after Brewer and his team examined CDC data from the center's 2015 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS). The team used the data to calculate annual estimates of binge drinking, which is defined as men drinking five or more drinks over the course of two hours, or women drinking four or more drinks over the same period. A single drink is defined as a shot of hard liquor, a five-ounce glass of wine, or a 12-ounce glass of beer at five percent alcohol.

Once the team examined the data, they divided the findings by age, sex, education, race/ethnicity, household income, and state. They found that binge drinking was most common among adults aged 18 to 34, but more than half of all binge drinks consumed were from adults ages 35 years and older. In other words, older drinkers don't binge drink as often, but they tend to really hit the bottle when they do.

When males and females were compared side-by-side, it was revealed that men are much more likely to be binge drinkers. In fact, four out of five binge drinks were found to be consumed by males. Income also played a role, as the researchers found that people with lower household incomes (less than $25,000 annually) and lower educational levels (less than high school) "consumed substantially more" than those with higher salaries and education levels.

Comparing the race of binge drinkers, the researchers found the biggest drinkers were non-Hispanic whites (19.2 percent) and American Indians/Alaska Natives (17.9 percent). Most binge drinkers were located in Arkansas, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Hawaii. Meanwhile, Washington DC, New Jersey, New York, and Washington had the fewest numbers of binge drinkers.

The results demonstrate there is a need to focus on the prevention of excessive drinking, according to Brewer. "The findings also show the importance of taking a comprehensive approach to prevent binge drinking, focusing on reducing both the number of times people binge drink and the amount they drink when they binge,” he said.

It is worth noting that America's binge drinking is likely worse than the study implies, as the BRFSS relies on self-reported data from a phone survey, and study respondents are thought to underreport their drinking habits. The CDC study, which was published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine on Friday,was based on a survey from 2015 that asked around 400,00 Americans over the age of 18 about their alcohol consumption "in the past 30 days."

Binge drinking is responsible for more than half of the 88,000 alcohol-attributable deaths in the US each year, according to the CDC. It is also the cause of 75 percent of the $249 billion in economic costs associated with excessive drinking in the US.
 
Like the article about the shirts. To someone that has never seen alcoholism they are funny, to someone that has, they are stupid. Wish that fad would die.
 
i don't see why cats hate H2H so much

i appreciate his threads

and i don't see why the people who don't like him always come in to the thread to take shots at him

its literally the thing every thread
i don't see why cats hate H2H so much

i appreciate his threads

and i don't see why the people who don't like him always come in to the thread to take shots at him

its literally the thing every thread

100% agreed. Respect and appreciate discussions that he facilitates around these here parts
 
Fertility Rate for White Women Plummets BELOW the Limit Needed to Maintain the Population in Every Single US State

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  • Fertility rates for white women were low in every US state in 2017, but up in 12 states for black women and up in 29 states for Hispanic women
  • The total fertility rate for the US was 16 percent below the level of a population to replace itself
  • It was only higher than what is needed in two states: South Dakota and Utah
  • Experts say the reasons are likely due to South Dakota's growth in the energy sector and Utah's large Mormon population

White women have lower fertility rates in every state and rates for black and Hispanic women rise | Daily Mail Online

Fertility rates for white women were down in every US state in 2017 - below the rate needed for the population to replace itself, a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reveals.

However, among black and Hispanic women, fertility rates were up in 12 and 29 states, respectively.

When researchers looked at fertility rates for women of all age groups and races, they found that the nationwide rate was 16 percent lower than what is considered the level for a population to replace itself.

Experts say this is likely due to the fact that the large proportion of native-born women are having fewer children than before, while the much smaller proportion of immigrant-born women are having more children.

Additionally, the US white population has been hit hard by the Great Recession of 08-09, and is aging.

The overall fertility rate was only above the level in two states: South Dakota (with a boom in jobs for white Americans in the energy industry) and Utah (home to a high concentration of Mormons).

Demographers and public policy experts say if the rate continues to decline, there will not be enough healthy, young workers to keep the economy going and replace an aging population.



The highest total fertility rate was in South Dakota, 57 percent greater than the lowest rate in Washington, DC. But the nationwide fertility rate was 16 percent lower than what is considered the level for a population to replace itself.

Researchers looked at the birth certificates from all 50 states, including the District of Columbia and self-reported data on the mother's race from the certificate.

The highest total fertility rate was found to be in South Dakota, which was 57 percent greater than the lowest rate in Washington, DC.

No state in 2017 had a total fertility rate for white women that was above the population replacement level - what the population needs to exactly replace itself from one generation to the next.

Meanwhile, black women had a rate higher than the population replacement level in 12 states and Hispanic women had a rate that was higher in 29 states.

However across all age groups and races, the total fertility rate for the US in 2017 was 1,765.5 per 1,000 women - 16 percent below the level of a population to replace itself.

There were only two states that had rates above the population level, South Dakota and Utah.

For Utah, the answer as to why is easy: its Mormon population.

'It's certainly from Mormonism,' Dr Kenneth Johnson, a professor of sociology at the University of New Hampshire, told DailyMail.com

'The concentration for so many Mormons in a state is why the fertility tends to be higher.'

Currently, nearly 63 percent of all Utahans identify as Mormon in comparison with two percent of the US population.

According to a 2014 Pew Research Center survey, Mormons were found to have more children than other US religious groups.

Mormons between ages 40 and 59 had an average of 3.4 children in their lifetime, compared to the national average of 2.1 among all Americans in that age range.

It's also the reason why Utah had the highest total fertility rate for white women in 2017.

As for South Dakota, Dr Johnson theorizes it's due to the state's economic growth.


Fertility rates for white women were down in every US state in 2017, the report revealed. The highest total fertility rate for white women was in Utah


Among black and Hispanic women, fertility rates were up in 12 and 29 states, respectively. Black women had the highest rate in Maine and Alabama had the highest rate for Hispanic women

'My guess is South Dakota has had so much growth in the energy industry, it may the influx of people to the state that affects fertility,' he said.

The US Bureau of Economic Analysis has reported strong earning growths for the Mount Rushmore State and, in 2018, South Dakota had the third-highest growth rate in the nation behind Washington and Utah.

In a bit of a surprising twist, Maine had the highest total fertility rate for black women in 2017.

Historically, Maine has been named the state with the largest white population - which is why many residents have nicknamed it the Wonder Bread State.

And, according to the Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service, Maine is expected to have in 2020 more residents aged 65 and older than resident aged 19 and younger.

'My guess is a lot of [the black women who've given birth to babies in Maine] are foreign born,' Dr Jonathan Resiman, an associate professor of economics and public policy at the University of Maine at Machias, told DailyMail.com.

'There's a significant Somali group in southern Maine, along the northern coast there's a lot of Central Americans. Immigrants who are foreign born tend to have higher fertility rates.'

Dr Philip Cohen, a professor of population at the Maryland Population Research Center, says the reason might also be that black populations are moving to places with majority white populations for economic prosperity.

'In places with with small black populations like Maine or Oregon, they may have had some positive reason for ending up there and are higher-educated and better off than black populations in inner cities,' he told DailyMail.com.

Also surprising, Alabama had the highest total fertility rates for Hispanic women in 2017, which Dr Cohen says might be because of immigration.

'Places like Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina might be new immigration destinations with more recent immigrants and immigrants have higher fertility rates,' he said.


One expert told DailyMail.com that the declining nationwide rates are an indicator that fertility rates haven't recovered since the Great Recession

Dr Johnson says the declining nationwide rates are an indicator that fertility rates haven't recovered since the Great Recession and wonders if they ever will.

'The question will be whether these numbers are temporarily low. Are these delayed or are they really going to be low forever and never going to return?' he said.

But Dr Cohen says he doesn't want people to be alarmed by the report.

'It might make people fear society will stagnate, but we're a couple of generations away from that,' he said.

'And there are pathways out of it. The main way is through immigration. It may be difficult with culture and politics, but not with demography.'

Dr Resiman agrees that immigrants are the key to replenishing population levels.

'We're not quite Japan yet,' he said, referencing the Asian's country struggling birth rates. 'But this definitely makes the case for why we need more immigrants.'
 
So jobs and polygamy are the only thing saving the white race right now...???
 
So jobs and polygamy are the only thing saving the white race right now...???
Yep reading that article, the Dakotas and Utah are going to be responsible for producing white folks for the rest of the country, it’s not a surprise since they are predominantly white anyway! Once a dent on dependence on fossil fuels is felt, Utah will be the sole producer of white folks.
 
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