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post #121 of 198
Dolphins picked up William Hayes... they sure like their older DEs. Curious trade... I wonder how his run stopping/setting the edge is.


Pretty sure this completely takes out Sheard as well. They have Branch/Wake/Hayes for pass rushing downs. Need some guys who can set the edge and run stop now. Would, possibly, like Poe next to Suh. Spell Suh, bring in Jordan, switch those three. Super super pipe dream... but would love it none the less. The more this lags on, cheaper guys get. We'll see.

This team is really trying to build situational football... it seems.
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Dolphins signing Lawrence Timmons to a 2-year, $12 millions deal including $11 million guaranteed, per sources.
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post #124 of 198
I've loved this off-season so far.
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post #125 of 198
Ted Larsen G/C signed. Fully expect him as depth. Wouldn't be surprised to see one more OL signing before the draft.
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Pullin a Schnellenberger, cut the state of Florida off. Ignore that other florida team. Lol.
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Ideal draft on the heels of FA pick ups:

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Dolphins still have $23 - $30 millipon in cap space. Cut Misi and that should bring it up to $30... wild what they've been able to do with the cap.

Some wizards on spending.
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post #129 of 198
Trade back... swap and get (say) a 2nd and a 4th. Trade back again, swap and get another 2nd/3rd and 4th/5th.

Use one of the three 2nd round picks on Sidney.

Yes I'd do that in a heart beat.
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Poe represented by Jimmy Sexton who reps Suh, Gase, Branch several others. Very familiar to the Dolphins.

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Poe represented by Jimmy Sexton who reps Suh, Gase, Branch several others. Very familiar to the Dolphins.

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Poe to Atlanta
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Poe represented by Jimmy Sexton who reps Suh, Gase, Branch several others. Very familiar to the Dolphins.

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Poe to Atlanta

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post #134 of 198
We're striking out left n right
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Lol what?....
No man. The Dolphins aren't.
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post #136 of 198
The Dontari Poe situation played out strangely. He was at the Dolphins' facility for 9 hours yesterday but ended up signing a one-year deal with Atlanta.

Oh, and his agent also represents Mike Tannenbaum.
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post #137 of 198
Apparently the Dolphins are looking to trade up in the draft.

Not a fan of that, especially with how deep this draft is.
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Apparently the Dolphins are looking to trade up in the draft.

Not a fan of that, especially with how deep this draft is.

Agreed bruv
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Up? No man. God damn, no. mean.gif
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post #140 of 198
I said the same... wrong draft to do that with.

Trade back or stay put. Pissin away all these draft picks (last year included).
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Well, now Kiko has been re-signed as well.

The only player worth a damn that isn't re-signed for next year, is Jarvis Landry. (and they are working on that as well)

This is what I have been preching for a while now. They have locked up their own players, AND added a couple eh, decent upgrades, then we add with the Draft, THEN we go out next year, and we still have Free Agency + Draft to add even MORE on top of the already signed and extended core.

Tannehill, Wake, Suh, Jones, Kiko, Stills, Branch, Pouncey, Julius Thomas, and hopefully Landry, all signed. After that, you can extend Parker and Tunsil, etc (won't need to for at least 2+ years)

That's how you build a group, with the right staff, etc.


Doesn't guarantee we win a super bowl or anything, but the approach is right. We're acting like a real football team as of now. Hope it continues.


Note, we kinda gambled on signing Kiko so early/so much, but a little overpay with the cap goin up every year, meh. I'll live with that.
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Well, now Kiko has been re-signed as well.

The only player worth a damn that isn't re-signed for next year, is Jarvis Landry. (and they are working on that as well)

This is what I have been preching for a while now. They have locked up their own players, AND added a couple eh, decent upgrades, then we add with the Draft, THEN we go out next year, and we still have Free Agency + Draft to add even MORE on top of the already signed and extended core.

Tannehill, Wake, Suh, Jones, Kiko, Stills, Branch, Pouncey, Julius Thomas, and hopefully Landry, all signed. After that, you can extend Parker and Tunsil, etc (won't need to for at least 2+ years)

That's how you build a group, with the right staff, etc.


Doesn't guarantee we win a super bowl or anything, but the approach is right. We're acting like a real football team as of now. Hope it continues.


Note, we kinda gambled on signing Kiko so early/so much, but a little overpay with the cap goin up every year, meh. I'll live with that.

Agreed.

I had my doubts about Tannenbaum, but he's done a decent job so far.
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post #143 of 198
We all did.

But he, and a huge deal with Grier, has done a wonderful job. Lost Miller and OF because they wanted to wait to sign... I'm sure not having Gase hurt that but that's regardless.... and let them hit FA. If they attacked their one year players like they did this off-season maybe one of the two are still on the team. (Miller being the obvious because OF got PAID).

Now do the right thing and trade DOWN in this draft. DE, Strong Side LB, DT, OG, FS, Nickle Corner, DE, and TE are all needs. Keep chipping away.
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post #144 of 198
Now that I think about it... depth with Pouncey at Center is a need as well.

He's gonna get hurt again. Steen was serviceable but it looked like he really wore down towards the end of the season and lost his strength/endurance.

G/C combo would be good to pickup.
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But... but... that messes up everyone's argument for it being easy for any other QB except Ryan Tannehill... quick, delete delete!






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laugh.gif Omar.

Hate on Ryan, defend Misi. I get it. laugh.gif
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post #147 of 198
I do too.

I just happened to rabbit hole on Twitter yesterday and saw that. Had a nice hearty laugh.
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We signed TJ McDonald laugh.gif
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Dion Jordan was finally released.
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New e-book busts four biggest myths about Dolphins’ Tannehill

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Adam Gase has been Ryan Tannehill’s most dogged defender since Day 1.

The best example: Back on Sept. 21, 2016, when his Dolphins’ offense looked lost after an 0-2 start.

Does Tannehill need to up his game for the Dolphins to make anything of this season?, a reporter asked Gase then.

Gase’s answer: “He has really been, probably, one of our most consistent guys that we have. I don’t know how much more he can really step up considering that he’s doing everything right now that we need him to do. It’s just that we need every guy to pull their weight.”

Turns out, this wasn’t just coach-speak, an attempt to buoy the confidence of his embattled quarterback.

Gase was telling the truth.

That’s the conclusion reached by game film analyst Cian Fahey in his new e-book Pre-Snap Reads: Quarterback Catalogue 2017, set for release on April 30. Fahey, who watches American football from afar in his native Ireland, lays waste to a good many tropes about quarterback play in general — and Tannehill’s play in particular — in his latest release.

Fahey’s approach begins with the premise that the metrics we use to evaluate quarterbacks — wins and losses, championships, passer rating, touchdowns, interceptions, completion percentage — are all inherently flawed. While the quarterback is indeed the most important person on the field, he still plays a relatively small part in the efficiency of his offense, and the fortunes of his team.

All a quarterback can control is how well he executes his part of a play. And after countless hours of film study, Fahey, a 26-year-old who has covered the NFL for a better part of a decade, has determined Tannehill does his job better than most — and far better than most believe.

“Tannehill is the quintessential example of a quarterback who needs this type of analysis to be truly appreciated,” Fahey writes. “Adam Gase vehemently defended his quarterback during the season, knowing that he knew how the plays were supposed to look and what was happening on the field didn't look that way. Gase was referring to the offense around Tannehill. Whether it was receivers running the wrong routes, blockers missing assignments or receivers punching accurate passes to defenders, the Dolphins thrived at creating chaos for their own quarterback.”

Using subjective charting, Fahey attempts to flatten quarterback statistics and rankings, controlling for opponents, scheme, surrounding talent, randomness and luck.

He didn’t set out to write a book that vindicated Tannehill and his defenders. The data simply took him there.

Among the myths surrounding Tannehill he busted:

1. Tannehill is an average quarterback (62.7 career completion percentage, 86.5 passer rating and 37-40 record).

Reality: Tannehill was one of the league’s four most accurate passers in 2016, and of his 12 interceptions, half were the fault of his teammates — the highest rate in the league.

He had threw ninth-fewest interceptable passes (balls that should have been picked, whether the were or weren’t) among the 33 quarterbacks who played enough to be considered. And 79.6 percent of his 353 qualifying passes were on the money, trailing just Sam Bradford, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers.

2. OK, but he can’t throw the deep ball, right?

Reality: He was the league’s most accurate passer in passes thrown 16-20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage (an absurd 78.3 percent) and ranked third in passes thrown 21 yards or farther (55.6 percent). On passes thrown more than five yards, Tannehill was eighth in all of football, with a 67.1 accurate percentage.

3. Sure, but that’s because the Dolphins receivers bailed him out.

Reality: Tannehill had 30 “lost receptions” (which includes drops, bad footwork, a misread flight of the ball or lost control against contact) for 364 lost yards in 2016. He averaged a lost reception every 13 attempts, the 11th-highest rate in football.

Tannehill's receivers created just nine receptions for him in 2016 (eighth-fewest in football). His receivers created a reception once every 43.22 of Tannehill's qualifying attempts, which ranked 21st last year.

Tannehill's receivers did help him in one important way, however: 49.5 percent of his 2,995 passing yards came after the catch, the league’s ninth-highest rate.

4. Fine, but what about those sacks? He’s taken 213 in his career, a reflection of terrible pocket awareness.

Reality: Tannehill was sacked 27 times in 2016, but just one of those 27 could have realistically been avoided, leading the league. Of those 26 sacks, 18 were the result of a blocker getting beaten, five were a result of blown coverage and three were because of excellent downfield coverage.

Not surprising, Fahey’s scouting report for Tannehill’s 2016 was positive.

“Timing and placement is easier for him when he pushes the ball to the intermediate and deep routes,” he writes. “One of the best arms in the NFL. ... Throws well from the pocket but becomes more confident and aggressive outside of the pocket. ... Exceptional deep passer. ... Pressure doesn't impact his mechanics.”

He concludes: ”As it turns out, Gase isn't a quarterback whisperer, he's just a good head coach. Gase didn't coach up Tannehill or create play designs that made him more productive than his performances warranted. Instead, he settled a supporting case that had previously acted as an anchor around the neck of its signal caller.”

Pre-Snap Reads is available for pre-order for $19.99 at PreSnapReads.com.


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