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Like I said, you're too stupid to get it. You'll blame the next guy for stuff that ain't his fault too. It's what you do.

Yeah, next guy will never be responsible for anything either. It's not Tannehill's fault, not Joseph's fault, not Gase's fault, on and on and on.

Excuse makers like you are part of the reason this fanbase has fallen into a coma. No playoff wins in almost two decades but numbness has worn on your pea brain too much to get why.

What does Vance ******* Joseph have any God damn thing to do with the last two decades?


It's called REASONING you moron. Control what can be controlled.

Vance has NOTHING to do with no playoff wins in 20 years so why in the hell would you even bring it up?

"Excuse makers" laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif

It's called logic, genius.


Tell ya what, let's have a test. Answer this question.

Say we paid to keep Grimes, OV, Miller, and Mathews.

(Everyone take a look at how good those 4 were this year)

You look? Ok, so, now we have them all back

Wake/Suh/Philips/OV
Jenkins/Kiko/Misi
Grimes/Jones/IAQ/Maxwell


That's our defense.

I ask you. With that defense, does Vance have the most yards allowed in Dolphin history?

Think hard.

Does THAT defense, have the worst year in Phins history?

No, right?

Do you agree?
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post #32 of 162
Hurry up, yes or no?
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post #33 of 162
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LeadingNFL ™ ‏@LeadingNFL 2h2 hours ago
The Miami Dolphins had the 30th ranked offensive line, and Jay Ajayi finished the 2016 season as a top 5 rusher in the league
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post #34 of 162
Of course not. Problem is, supposedly with Mario Williams, Mitchell, Branch, Jones, Wake, Suh, etc. the results were supposed to be better. LB's and other personnel aren't as strong as who you had before, so if personnel is the issue, what confidence should we have in Mike Tannenbaum?

Again, Mike Tannenbaum has proven that he's throwing darts at a board. Traded multiple picks for Caroo and thought Jenkins, Misi, Alonso was a legit solution laugh.gif
post #35 of 162
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Of course not. Problem is, supposedly with Mario Williams, Mitchell, Branch, Jones, Wake, Suh, etc. the results were supposed to be better. LB's and other personnel aren't as strong as who you had before, so if personnel is the issue, what confidence should we have in Mike Tannenbaum?

Again, Mike Tannenbaum has proven that he's throwing darts at a board. Traded multiple picks for Caroo and thought Jenkins, Misi, Alonso was a legit solution laugh.gif

Stop.

Your answer was no, right? I read this correctly?

So the EXACT SAME DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR, WHO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU BLAME, would have been better at his job, with better players?


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? How can this be? Tell me, how can this be finnnns? I don't understand, how can the guy who is at fault, be better with better talent around him? I don't understand.


"excuse makers" wink.gif


(You learning anything yet?)
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post #36 of 162
I hope this never ends.
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post #37 of 162
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Of course not. Problem is, supposedly with Mario Williams, Mitchell, Branch, Jones, Wake, Suh, etc. the results were supposed to be better. LB's and other personnel aren't as strong as who you had before, so if personnel is the issue, what confidence should we have in Mike Tannenbaum?

Again, Mike Tannenbaum has proven that he's throwing darts at a board. Traded multiple picks for Caroo and thought Jenkins, Misi, Alonso was a legit solution laugh.gif



Now for the rest of what you were sayin, not all of this is on Mike, or Gase, or Vance, it's on YOU. YOU felt things were supposed to be "better"

We lost OV, Miller, Grimes, and Mathews, and you thought the team was gonna be better? laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif


That's on you man. Most of us knew this was a semi-rebuild on the fly. New staff, bunch of new players, the trade they made to bring in Maxwell-Kiko, just to mask the time it would take to rebuild fully.
We knew they would be getting comp picks for the FA's they lost, we always knew that. And we will be getting at least 3 now.

They kicked out Grimes because of Miko, they were never supposed to be "good" this year. Hell, Mario was a one year deal, Branch was a one year deal, this was always on the fly. Cameron, Foster, I mean, why would YOU think this team was supposed to be "better"?

YOU place expectations (from following Omar) and then get pissed at the end of the year when things don't add up how you expected. That's on you man.
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I hope this never ends.

**** man, I do. I want him to stop listening to Omar, and Skip, and Colin Cowherd and start to grasp actual info better.

He just tried to tell me the Broncos only hired Joseph because there were no other candidates. laugh.gifroll.gifmean.gif

Yes, John Elway clearly just hires any ol body for no reason, that's exactly how he does business. Yes. And all the other teams, same for them too. laugh.gif

The guy just lives in this crazy world where he can never connect anything and see the patterns and where things stem from. I bet he stares at the tweet about the MIami OL was 30th, but Ajayi was top 5 and struggles for hours to understand how that's possible. laugh.gifnerd.gif
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post #39 of 162
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So at what point do you expect results then? This league is about results, no? Is the owner satisfied or not with the end result?

See there's too much of a double standard here. Paying Suh top dollar as if he's the final piece when he's not. Trading away multiple picks for a WR as if that's a luxury we have.

See where I'm going? The assets are being used in a way in which the team is close, when it's not the case. So then it's not a proper build. Which brings me back to my original point. laugh.gif
post #40 of 162
Zach Cunningham officially declares...

One of my guys to watch for the Dolphins first pick.
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post #41 of 162
Happy Birthday @im that one!!!

One of the most loyal Phins fans on this site.

Happy to be a part of your NFL Thread squad.
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Happy Birthday @im that one!!!

One of the most loyal Phins fans on this site.

Happy to be a part of your NFL Thread squad.

HBD fam. nthat.gif
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Happy Birthday @im that one!!!

One of the most loyal Phins fans on this site.

Happy to be a part of your NFL Thread squad.

HBD Fan
post #44 of 162
Thanks bruvs.

Appreciate the love. pimp.gif
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Thanks bruvs.

Appreciate the love. pimp.gif

Happy belated brother

Got you a Jake Long jersey laugh.gif
post #46 of 162
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post #47 of 162
Your score is: 9673 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (SEA): Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple (B)
Round 2 Pick 22: Charles Harris, DE, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26 (SEA): Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (B+)
Round 3 Pick 34: Kevin King, CB, Washington (B+)
Round 3 Pick 41 (SEA): Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22: Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland (A)
Round 5 Pick 22: Jessamen Dunker, OG, Tennessee State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 22: Bryan Cox, DE, Florida (B-)
Round 7 Pick 22: Jeremiah Ledbetter, DT, Arkansas (A+)


First time I've played this year... would be ecstatic if this were the Dolphins draft this year. Don't really care that it gave me a C+... would be an excellent C+.

I'll play it straight up, no trades later.

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post #48 of 162
Reports are saying Branden Albert is being released.
Tunsil going to LT, two guards are needed now.
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Reports are saying Branden Albert is being released.
Tunsil going to LT, two guards are needed now.

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post #50 of 162
Clearing cap space?

He's overpaid considering how much time he misses.
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post #51 of 162
Add Earl Mitchell and Mario Williams.

Maybe $20/$25 million cleared with those three.

I expect Jordan will be gone as well.
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post #52 of 162
Misi will get clipped as well.

So, Tunsil slides to LT, and now we need a RG, and a LG. But they are cheaper to pay than Albert, so I guess there's your move.

Bottom line, they better pay to keep Stills. If they let him go too, mean.gif
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post #53 of 162
Agreed.

Stills needs to say.
Misi needs to go, dude sneezes and tears/breaks/hurts something. Kiko to weakside, need strong/middle.


Needs:
MLB
SSLB
DEs x2.
DT/NT (run stopper, take 2 blocks to free Suh up)
Safety depth.
Slot corner.
LG/RG.
TE.

JPP on the market, would be a Dolphins move. Haven't looked to deep in FA yet. Been looking at the draft.
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post #54 of 162
Dolphins are talking about trading for a corner now. "Big Name"... who the hell?
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post #55 of 162
Peterson, Sherman, Haden?
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post #56 of 162
So apparently Albert hasn't been cut yet, but will possibly be traded...

See if the Dolphins can get anything for him.
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Dolphins are talking about trading for a corner now. "Big Name"... who the hell?
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So apparently Albert hasn't been cut yet, but will possibly be traded...

See if the Dolphins can get anything for him.

I'm intrigued...
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post #58 of 162
You mean the front office doing something righr two years in a row?

I'm intrigued as well... learned there was a hot market for Albert and pulled back to get something for him.

Smart. Finally.
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You mean the front office doing something righr two years in a row?

I'm intrigued as well... learned there was a hot market for Albert and pulled back to get something for him.

Smart. Finally.

Yeah FO seems to be looking to address our most pertinent needs while getting rid of the bad contracts.

Is this what competence feels like? laugh.gif
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The Dolphins Offense

Miami has some pressing personnel questions to answer in the next month or so, but with head coach Adam Gase and an offense that has the chance to keep all of its key pieces, the Dolphins are closer to breaking through than many people may think.

The front-office duo of Mike Tannenbaum and Chris Grier should make it a priority to retain downfield threat Kenny Stills, who bounced back from his disappointing 2015 season in a big way last fall: He made 42 catches for 726 yards and a team-high nine receiving touchdowns. Bringing back Stills would allow the Dolphins to move forward with a skill-position group that has the potential to be pretty damn good. The combination of Stills, Jarvis Landry, DeVante Parker, and tailback Jay Ajayi had plenty of moments last season, and each is 24 or younger. Tight end is another area of concern for Miami (both Jordan Cameron and Dion Sims are set to hit free agency), but finding that answer should take a backseat to some other offseason needs.

Few teams in the league had more resources tied up in their offensive line than the Dolphins last season, who spent three recent first-round picks on linemen and had a tackle (Branden Albert) making $8.4 million. The problem is that unlike the Cowboys, Raiders, and Titans, Miami didn’t get enviable returns on investment. Part of its issue was losing center Mike Pouncey to a hip injury for 11 games last year. He’ll be back this fall, but the same can’t be said about the 32-year-old Albert, who’s coming off a rough season (one that was marred by a wrist injury, just the latest in the litany of injury issues he’s had in Miami). The Dolphins released him on Thursday, saving about $7.2 million.

After cutting ties with the former big-money free agent, Miami has about $48 million in cap space without making any other moves. That leaves it with plenty of cash to re-sign Stills and help fill out the line. The logical move to replace Albert would be to slide 2016 first-round pick Laremy Tunsil to tackle (example no. 1,281 of why drafting the best available player isn’t a bad idea). That’d leave holes at both guard spots, but this free-agent class happens to be loaded with interior offensive linemen. Guys like T.J. Lang, Ron Leary, Kevin Zeitler, and Larry Warford are all available, and each would represent a massive upgrade for Miami.

Getting steadier play out of the guys up front would be pivotal, as the rest of the Dolphins offense is headed in the right direction. Quarterback Ryan Tannehill seemed to settle in during his first season under Gase (save for a rough day against the Ravens in December) before going down with a knee injury, and the continuity that would come with another year in the offense could be enough to help him — and this unit — take a significant step forward. If Pouncey fully recovers and some tweaks elsewhere are made, Miami (which finished 14th in offensive DVOA) could be dangerous.

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