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It Was 400 Years Ago, They Said
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Common sense. They got free labor for 200+ years. Do the math. Reparations are owed. The end.
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Tim Wise has a, or several, good lectures on this and the Homestead Act in particular
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KSteezy is the only one on here that doesn't know this
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Meth has had to check him numerous times for his, "It was so long ago, if immigrants can make it, so should you" talk.
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There's also a good book out there: 'When Affirmative action was White', which talks to a lot of the federal benefites Whites received throughout the 20th Century, especially after the Great Depression, over Blacks.
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MLK's I have a dream speech was made in 1963. This is what he was talking about around the time he was murdered in 1968. Let that sink in.
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Man... Wells Fargo disgusts me more every day
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I don't agree necessarily with what you bolded in article. It may not cause mass wealth but working and having two decent parents who have higher education opens up opportunities Just off GP. The fight and struggle never ends but certain things are more important to have than building wealth. A sense of self and pride in ones culture is key.
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Man America is/was/and will forever be ****** up 
They owe us reparations big time.
They owe us reparations big time.
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It's really that simple.
Anyone that acts like they need data, researchers and a complete outline to figure this out is just in denial.
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It was a poorly worded statement, go set the bait for someone that doesn't know you.
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Dude 1; MLK wouldn't have wanted this. He's all about peace, and today, that'd but the case.
Dude 2: so you agree with all things MLK spoke on?
Dude 1: absolutely
Dude 2: *pulls up YouTube videos on MLK talking about reparations, the liberal white racist, and protecting blacks through a militia*
Dude 1: but but but black on black crime.
Dude 2: so you agree with all things MLK spoke on?
Dude 1: absolutely
Dude 2: *pulls up YouTube videos on MLK talking about reparations, the liberal white racist, and protecting blacks through a militia*
Dude 1: but but but black on black crime.
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Just had this conversation last night while on my drunk soapbox. If you're white and successful, it was given to you. If you're black and successful, YOU WORKED FOR THAT ****.
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This the MLK they ain't teach us in school. That's what got him killed. The Government wasn't really trippin when he was all about peace and just fighting for equal rights. Once he started talking about reparations, black owned businesses, economics he had to go.
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good luck defending this statement
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"If you stick a knife nine inches into my back and pull it out three inches, that is not progress. Even if you pull it all the way out, that is not progress. Progress is healing the wound" - Malcolm X
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This the MLK they ain't teach us in school. That's what got him killed. The Government wasn't really trippin when he was all about peace and just fighting for equal rights. Once he started talking about reparations, black owned businesses, economics he had to go.
I do very much agree that MLK was seen as more dangerous to some of his former "allies" post Civil Rights Movement.
But lets us remember that the Poor People's Campaign extended across races (he courted poor whites to the movement too) and MLK and he advocated for petitioning the government to install a social democratic state to help all lower class people. He wasn't just talking about practicing group economics, he was talking about fundamentally changing the way America views economic prosperity. That seems to get ignored by people that bring up MLK post 1964.
The black community could get reparations (which I am for btw) tomorrow, but the dominant society would be able to recoup most of it if they want by reorganizing the socioeconomic system.
This wealth divide would get better if we moved to a socially democratic state. Also it is not at odds with building and economic firewall within the community, the two are not mutually exclusive. In fact it is the opposite, the work hand in hand. There are tons of public policy stuff that need to be changed that will produce tangible and marginal gains for the black community: From reforming our housing codes, to modernizing our tax code, to the way we fund public schools, to our healthcare system (single payer), to our criminal justice system (beyond police brutality), to our public transportation system, our election system, our monetary policy, expanding the estate tax, the list goes on and on and on.
To that end, I believe that the way forward is not only pooling resources and strengthening the economic bonds within the community, or is it only passionately fighting to transition to a socially democratic state in America, but doing both together.
Social Justice will never be realized until we have economic justice. So on a marco level, we need to be thinking about what is the most just way to organize the national, regional, state, local, and neighborhood economies.
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Nah, famb-o. You buggin' w/ this statement.
You can't make broad sweeping assumptions like this.
You sound like them Brietbart dudes, and from your post history, I know you're a relatively sharp cat.
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Pretty sure the conversation of the thread just defended it for me
I'm not saying other races are immune to hard work, im just stating the FACT that Black people have to work harder for everything.
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We're real quick to make tongue in cheek assertions but are scared to offend people. The article in the thread literally talks about wealth being passed down from generations amongst whites where as blacks had nothing. I said the same thing only it doesn't have the delicious sugar coat on it.
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If any of you could wave a magic wand and fix this problem tomorrow, how would you address this in steps? Reparations are definitely needed/warranted, but then what? Just dump it right back into this economy that continues to only see us as consumers?
