Remy Ma-shETHER***Nicki Minaj diss***

Shot for shot Its harder than ether. Not sure how anybody could be underwhelmed but that's your opinion.

As for me, it's crazy how for a long stretch of the song there's back to back to back shots and punchlines in each bar. Her flow wasn't as good as nas' but everything else has to go to her. She more than did the song justice IMO.

Not sure how ppl don't think this isn't a top 5 diss record at least.
 
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How is this "harder" than ether when it's name and the beat are paying tribute? Not sure where this going against the grain mentality is coming from but that's how it goes in the music forum
 
Cause ether is full of superficial jokes while shETHER touches on real things like Nicki supporting a pedophile
 
How is this "harder" than ether when it's name and the beat are paying tribute? Not sure where this going against the grain mentality is coming from but that's how it goes in the music forum
How is it not?
It's more direct.
More disrespectful.
Hardly any filler/straight haymakers almost the entire 7 min.
More punchlines iirc

Ether was harsh but not as harsh as shether. Listen to both back to back.
 
Cause ether is full of superficial jokes while shETHER touches on real things like Nicki supporting a pedophile


How is it not?
It's more direct.
More disrespectful.
Hardly any filler/straight haymakers almost the entire 7 min.
More punchlines iirc

Ether was harsh but not as harsh as shether. Listen to both back to back.

Nicki circa 2017 is NOT Jay circa '00-'01. The only thing that Remy stated that wasn't involving who Nicki slept with or how fake she is was her brother who had the situation with the little girl. Something that Nicki had no control over. Nas came at Jay's whole street reputation. What is Nicki's reputation? Being sexy and having dudes lust over her? Shorty has the word ménage in her name, are we surprised she gets ******?
 
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The fact that a Bronx ***** used a Queens rappers beat to murder another Queens rapper is savage. Nicki's best way to respond is to not respond and that might not even work considering how Ebro and Trey responded, considering how Remy talked about her brother's situation.
 
The fact that a Bronx ***** used a Queens rappers beat to murder another Queens rapper is savage. Nicki's best way to respond is to not respond and that might not even work considering how Ebro and Trey responded, considering how Remy talked about her brother's situation.

Nicki not responding is disheartening. I personally feel like Remy came at her neck hard enough to where if Nicki was truly passionate about the craft, she'd come with something, regardless of how it was perceived. Everything is all politics now. Beyond her probably being shook to respond and it not being well received. Investors and endorsers are probably telling her its best to not go that route. All I know is that if Nicki doesn't say anything, she better not ever say anything. Don't try and talk slick months later.

Bars were dope but her delivery was ***.

Ether >>>

Clearly. The diss track that all other diss tracks are measured by...
 
I laugh every time I see someone try to downplay the original Ether. Jay said himself that he felt like he got punched in the stomach when he first heard it.

Guess that's not enough for some folks though :lol:
 
It's wild to me how people talk about these songs quality as if folks ain't entitled to they own opinion.

No words you are going to type on the internet are going to change my opinion on a song
 
I laugh every time I see someone try to downplay the original Ether. Jay said himself that he felt like he got punched in the stomach when he first heard it.

Guess that's not enough for some folks though :lol:

I don't think anyone tries to downplay Ether but it really wasn't any facts. It was jokes
 
I laugh every time I see someone try to downplay the original Ether. Jay said himself that he felt like he got punched in the stomach when he first heard it.

Guess that's not enough for some folks though :lol:

I don't think anyone tries to downplay Ether but it really wasn't any facts. It was jokes

How can you say it "wasn't any facts"?

In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers

Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars J****, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase

Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her ****

And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame


Now, I'm not in a position to say these are "facts". But very few would be in a position to say they are not as well.

Ether is pretty much what any "diss" record is. Humor mixed in with some believable information. Unless you have Nicki's contract, you don't know that what Remy said is true.

**** still sounds ill though.
 
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People wanna say stuff just to say it.


"Oh Ether wasn't that nice"


Sit down. :lol:



Jay himself was rocked by it. The whole ROC was rocked by it.
 
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Yea Jay was so rocked by it that his album the next year went double, that **** had no impact on his career.

It was only impactful because nas fell off with nastradaumus and we was forgetting he emcee (I gave you life when people were forgetting you emcee). He came out of nowhere and attacked the throne.

Lyric for lyric, bar for bar. Both the blueprint and Takeover > ether
 
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How can you say it "wasn't any facts"?

In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers

Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars J****, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase

Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her ****

And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame


Now, I'm not in a position to say these are "facts". But very few would be in a position to say they are not as well.

Ether is pretty much what any "diss" record is. Humor mixed in with some believable information. Unless you have Nicki's contract, you don't know that what Remy said is true.

**** still sounds ill though.

Exactly

Of course Proposition Joe Proposition Joe would try to downplay it.

Never seen a bigger jay z fan than him.

I mean hov himself said ether was a gut punch (so there had to be more than "just jokes" in there.

But nah, he ain't buying it :smh: :lol:
 
I don't think she was trying to do or duplicate Ether

I think it was in response to Nicki's song with Gucci. Nicki mentioned Nas about three or four times in that song.
 
I laugh every time I see someone try to downplay the original Ether. Jay said himself that he felt like he got punched in the stomach when he first heard it.

Guess that's not enough for some folks though
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Truthfully, we all did. Room probably fell to dead silence when the song ended.

Ether will forever be the GOAT diss record.
 
Yea Jay was so rocked by it that his album the next year went double, that **** had no impact on his career.

It was only impactful because nas fell off with nastradaumus and we was forgetting he emcee. He came out of nowhere and attacked the throne.

Lyric for lyric, bar for bar. Both the blueprint and Takeover > ether

Stop. Just stop. :lol:

Jay is my favorite rapper after Pac but the man was on Angie's show befuddled.


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There's plenty of people who feel how I feel, multiple people in this thread have already said they didn't care for ether and that it was overrated, I'm the known Jay fan so I'll get called out :lol:


 
Funny thing is Takeover was more subjective and jokes than actual facts. I'm a fan of both brothers for the record.

Blueprint 2 is extremely underrated as a diss record though IMO.
 
There's plenty of people who feel how I feel, multiple people in this thread have already said they didn't care for ether and that it was overrated, I'm the known Jay fan so I'll get called out :lol:




Already knew you were going to post the Charlemagne video :lol:. ***** has beat that topic to death.

He's a known contrarian.
 
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