****The Everything LaVar Ball Thread****

if his name was Larry Barnes, a white father, everyone would be praising him
That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

Have you ever been to a HS basketball game? Or a middle school game?

Parent do this **** all the time.

And the race aspect is 100% true, if he was white or even a woman, he would be viewed different. LaVar is annoying to some because he doesn't fit into the usual stereo type the media pushes to folk.

And god forbid young black men that understand how black men are ******** on in the media and society defend other black men. Oh the horror. :rolleyes

You pedaling alternative fact pa

Of course there are parents who overstep their boudaries in amateur sports. I see it all the time. ****, we have a show on TV dedicated to Dance Moms, so I can see why a polarizing figure like Lavar Ball is seen as enticing by the media. I completely get it.

However, when bringing race into the matter, please give examples of others who have done the same and not nearly received the same amount of vitriol as Ball. Where the line gets blurred is that Ball is openly talking trash about guys to his son's superior, talking about other folks' kids, etc. THIS is where I would love to see examples of the folks you think have gotten away with what Ball is doing now. The hot takes are one thing, but he's taking things to a completely different level. Forget Whitlock for a second...he's a herb...you have folks from ALL walks of life, races, etc., completely NOT cool w/ how Lavar Ball is going about business.

Praise him all you want for being in his sons' lives. Nothing wrong with that. He obviously cares abotu his boys. However, he is absolutely not absolved from criticism for some of the stuff he's been doing/saying over the past few months. He's a sideshow, and unfortunately it's a shadow over his kids. Can't discuss Lonzo without bringing up his crazy father.
 
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Lonzo has been making statements about Fultz. He needs to calm that down. He'll be perceived differently than Lavar, and once you get labeled as a player it will be hard to remove it.

I think the media likes talking about Lavar, because he has a engaging personality and they don't really like talking about basketball. A lot of them treat it like we treat hockey.
tbh markelle fultz is a straight beast and lottery pick but lonzo and ucla destroyed and damn near expsed washington so i see where he coming from with his statements 
 
if his name was Larry Barnes, a white father, everyone would be praising him
That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

Have you ever been to a HS basketball game? Or a middle school game?

Parent do this **** all the time.

And the race aspect is 100% true, if he was white or even a woman, he would be viewed different. LaVar is annoying to some because he doesn't fit into the usual stereo type the media pushes to folk.

And god forbid young black men that understand how black men are ******** on in the media and society defend other black men. Oh the horror. :rolleyes

You pedaling alternative fact pa

Of course there are parents who overstep their boudaries in amateur sports. I see it all the time. ****, we have a show on TV dedicated to Dance Moms, so I can see why a polarizing figure like Lavar Ball is seen as enticing by the media. I completely get it.

However, when bringing race into the matter, please give examples of others who have done the same and not nearly received the same amount of vitriol as Ball. Where the line gets blurred is that Ball is openly talking trash about guys to his son's superior, talking about other folks' kids, etc. THIS is where I would love to see examples of the folks you think have gotten away with what Ball is doing now. The hot takes are one thing, but he's taking things to a completely different level. Forget Whitlock for a second...he's a herb...you have folks from ALL walks of life, races, etc., completely NOT cool w/ how Lavar Ball is going about business.

Praise him all you want for being in his sons' lives. Nothing wrong with that. He obviously cares abotu his boys. However, he is absolutely not absolved from criticism for some of the stuff he's been doing/saying over the past few months. He's a sideshow, and unfortunately it's a shadow over his kids. Can't discuss Lonzo without bringing up his crazy father.

Who is absolving him? Many of the dudes in here that say they like him have criticized some of the stuff he does as well.

Not everyone jumped to defense when the news broke on his wife, or the comments on Lebron's sons, or the coach.

Also, just because people of other races, even black people, doesn't mean that he is getting 100% fair treatment

Because black conservatives didn't like Barrack Obama that doesn't mean he was not disrespect more because he was black.

Just because some black folk don't like Richard Sherman or think Kaep should stand, doesn't make all the criticism they have faced valid

And like mentioned earlier, the Mannings are look at as football royalty even when Archie was holding the Charger hostage. It doesn't have to be the only reason, but race play a part in such things.

-Btw, being critical of Ball's actions and acknowledging the media pushes the imagine of the single black mother in sports and LaVar does against this are not mutually exclusive positions to have.

I don't know why we must always begin from a position of "it is not about race". Let social scientist tell you, most things in this country have a racial aspect if you dig deep enough.
 
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tbh markelle fultz is a straight beast and lottery pick but lonzo and ucla destroyed and damn near expsed washington so i see where he coming from with his statements 



Markelle Fultz was damn near playing by himself out there. Lonzo was playing with higher caliber talent.


He's making a case for himself which is just fine with me. Him and pops talking still won't affect Fultz going #1 though.
 
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if his name was Larry Barnes, a white father, everyone would be praising him
That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

Have you ever been to a HS basketball game? Or a middle school game?

Parent do this **** all the time.

And the race aspect is 100% true, if he was white or even a woman, he would be viewed different. LaVar is annoying to some because he doesn't fit into the usual stereo type the media pushes to folk.

And god forbid young black men that understand how black men are ******** on in the media and society defend other black men. Oh the horror. :rolleyes

You pedaling alternative fact pa

Of course there are parents who overstep their boudaries in amateur sports. I see it all the time. ****, we have a show on TV dedicated to Dance Moms, so I can see why a polarizing figure like Lavar Ball is seen as enticing by the media. I completely get it.

However, when bringing race into the matter, please give examples of others who have done the same and not nearly received the same amount of vitriol as Ball. Where the line gets blurred is that Ball is openly talking trash about guys to his son's superior, talking about other folks' kids, etc. THIS is where I would love to see examples of the folks you think have gotten away with what Ball is doing now. The hot takes are one thing, but he's taking things to a completely different level. Forget Whitlock for a second...he's a herb...you have folks from ALL walks of life, races, etc., completely NOT cool w/ how Lavar Ball is going about business.

Praise him all you want for being in his sons' lives. Nothing wrong with that. He obviously cares abotu his boys. However, he is absolutely not absolved from criticism for some of the stuff he's been doing/saying over the past few months. He's a sideshow, and unfortunately it's a shadow over his kids. Can't discuss Lonzo without bringing up his crazy father.

Who is absolving him? Many of the dudes in here that say they like him have criticized some of the stuff he does as well.

Not everyone jumped to defense when the news broke on his wife, or the comments on Lebron's sons, or the coach.

Also, just because people of other races, even black people, doesn't mean that he is getting 100% fair treatment

Because black conservatives didn't like Barrack Obama that doesn't mean he was not disrespect more because he was black.

Just because some black folk don't like Richard Sherman or think Kaep should stand, doesn't make all the criticism they have faced valid

And like mentioned earlier, the Mannings are look at as football royalty even when Archie was holding the Charger hostage. It doesn't have to be the only reason, but race play a part in such things.

-Btw, being critical of Ball's actions and acknowledging the media pushes the imagine of the single black mother in sports and LaVar does against this are not mutually exclusive positions to have.

I don't know why we must always begin from a position of "it is not about race". Let social scientist tell you, most things in this country have a racial aspect if you dig deep enough.

Archie Manning wasn't talking about other folks' kids nor pumping up his own boys while putting down someone who was already a 2x MVP in the league. The latter is a hot take, but disrespectful. THe former, is just flat out disrespectful. Simple as that.

This is why I asked for examples. I knew the Mannings would come up...maybe even the Lindros family....you wanna draw parallels between them and someone like Steve Francis who refused to hoop for Vancouver, sure. Go ahead. THERE is your racial aspect. I completely see it.

What Ball is doing is a bit unprecedented. Of course you got parents of kids who pop off at the mouth. However, has there ever been a prospect in the 4 major sports who had a mother/father who was this much of a loose cannon to the point where he was OFFENDING some of his son's potential teammates or opposition? I can't think of any. Again, please give examples. You prove otherwise, I'm more than happy to change my stance on this.

What's happening to Lavar Ball right now with the Whitlock hot takes, vitriol from other media members/fans, other athletes, etc. is his own doing. To me, as the days have gone on, I don't see anything racial about it.
 
Lavar Ball is a straight up herb...this article is well-worth the read:

Chino Hills (Calif.) boys basketball head coach Stephan Gilling hasn’t forgotten the deep voice shouting in the second half from the stands at a quarter-full Orleans Arena in Las Vegas. He knew exactly who was yelling. It was LaVar Ball, the father of Chino Hills’ LiAngelo, LaMelo and UCLA star Lonzo.

“Double team! Double team!”

The first-year head coach had won his first nine games of the season, but after a pair of close wins at the mid-December Tarkanian Classic, the Huskies faced another test against Roosevelt (Calif.) High. They went into the locker room at half trailing by 12. Chino Hills had been double teaming Roosevelt’s shooters for the first half, but Gilling needed to make an adjustment.

“I go into the locker room, and I tell the guys to stop double teaming – just stay with your man,” Gilling said. “You do that, we’ll definitely get stops and come back and win.”

Yet, there was that voice again in the second half: “Double team! Double team!”

When Ball would shout for the double-team, Chino Hills players reluctantly followed his instruction. Gilling would yell, “Stop trapping!” (The exchange was captured in the video below).


Coaching LaVar Ball's sons: Inside high school basketball's most chaotic 30-3 season
Nope. If I gave you a style of play, if I gave you the star players, if I gave you the damn coaching seat that you're sitting in..

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Acknowledge that you're a figurehead and enjoy the ride.
 
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How LaVar Ball Made Life Miserable For His Sons HS Basketball Coach 

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For all the people that talk **** about Lavar, I'd like to see y'all say that to his face.

Dude looks like he can bar b q his *** off, slams miller lites and Hennessey, and has them 1980 crack era hands.

I'd love to see how y'all interact with y'all daddies.

My dad was 5'9", 230 with hands made of sandpaper and stone... He could light the blunt by snapping his fingers...

I feel Lavar has the same hands.

My dad would've washed me, but its less about fear and more about respect for a grown *** black man that has seen some **** that I haven't and probably will never see.

Y'all bugging.
 
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if his name was Larry Barnes, a white father, everyone would be praising him
That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

Have you ever been to a HS basketball game? Or a middle school game?

Parent do this **** all the time.

And the race aspect is 100% true, if he was white or even a woman, he would be viewed different. LaVar is annoying to some because he doesn't fit into the usual stereo type the media pushes to folk.

And god forbid young black men that understand how black men are ******** on in the media and society defend other black men. Oh the horror. :rolleyes

You pedaling alternative fact pa

Of course there are parents who overstep their boudaries in amateur sports. I see it all the time. ****, we have a show on TV dedicated to Dance Moms, so I can see why a polarizing figure like Lavar Ball is seen as enticing by the media. I completely get it.

However, when bringing race into the matter, please give examples of others who have done the same and not nearly received the same amount of vitriol as Ball. Where the line gets blurred is that Ball is openly talking trash about guys to his son's superior, talking about other folks' kids, etc. THIS is where I would love to see examples of the folks you think have gotten away with what Ball is doing now. The hot takes are one thing, but he's taking things to a completely different level. Forget Whitlock for a second...he's a herb...you have folks from ALL walks of life, races, etc., completely NOT cool w/ how Lavar Ball is going about business.

Praise him all you want for being in his sons' lives. Nothing wrong with that. He obviously cares abotu his boys. However, he is absolutely not absolved from criticism for some of the stuff he's been doing/saying over the past few months. He's a sideshow, and unfortunately it's a shadow over his kids. Can't discuss Lonzo without bringing up his crazy father.

Who is absolving him? Many of the dudes in here that say they like him have criticized some of the stuff he does as well.

Not everyone jumped to defense when the news broke on his wife, or the comments on Lebron's sons, or the coach.

Also, just because people of other races, even black people, doesn't mean that he is getting 100% fair treatment

Because black conservatives didn't like Barrack Obama that doesn't mean he was not disrespect more because he was black.

Just because some black folk don't like Richard Sherman or think Kaep should stand, doesn't make all the criticism they have faced valid

And like mentioned earlier, the Mannings are look at as football royalty even when Archie was holding the Charger hostage. It doesn't have to be the only reason, but race play a part in such things.

-Btw, being critical of Ball's actions and acknowledging the media pushes the imagine of the single black mother in sports and LaVar does against this are not mutually exclusive positions to have.

I don't know why we must always begin from a position of "it is not about race". Let social scientist tell you, most things in this country have a racial aspect if you dig deep enough.

Archie Manning wasn't talking about other folks' kids nor pumping up his own boys while putting down someone who was already a 2x MVP in the league. The latter is a hot take, but disrespectful. THe former, is just flat out disrespectful. Simple as that.

This is why I asked for examples. I knew the Mannings would come up...maybe even the Lindros family....you wanna draw parallels between them and someone like Steve Francis who refused to hoop for Vancouver, sure. Go ahead. THERE is your racial aspect. I completely see it.

What Ball is doing is a bit unprecedented. Of course you got parents of kids who pop off at the mouth. However, has there ever been a prospect in the 4 major sports who had a mother/father who was this much of a loose cannon to the point where he was OFFENDING some of his son's potential teammates or opposition? I can't think of any. Again, please give examples. You prove otherwise, I'm more than happy to change my stance on this.

What's happening to Lavar Ball right now with the Whitlock hot takes, vitriol from other media members/fans, other athletes, etc. is his own doing. To me, as the days have gone on, I don't see anything racial about it.

It is clear I can't convince you, I am not even sure you even tried to consider the point I was making.

First off, you admit that LaVar is unprecedented, then you say the only way you will change you mind on the issue is if you have a similar example by a white person. The you have already set the criteria that no known example will be sufficient.

And you keep circling back to the same Lebron and Whitlock situation to ignore my point. I did not say that people that criticize him for stuff like Lebron's kids that are just doing out of strictly racial motive, in fact my words have signaled the opposite. Me bringing up race to Blake was not to brush aside the criticism he got for some of his actions, it was to say that here is a racial aspect to many view the man's actions.

Before he made the comments about Bron's kids, before Whitlock, before the coaching stuff, some people in the media were coming at LaVar for his behavior.

In his interview with Colin Cowherd, Cowherd even dog whistles this point, by talking about "middle America's" displeasure with his behavior. LaVar been calling it out that mainly white folk asking him if his sons talk back to him.

And looking at the first page, you have been dismissing dudes bringing up the potential racial aspect of even then.

Even if I had I one to one example, I doubt it would change anyway.

So we can agree to disagree.
 
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For all the people that talk **** about Lavar, I'd like to see y'all say that to his face.

Dude looks like he can bar b q his *** off, slams miller lites and Hennessey, and has them 1980 crack era hands.

I'd love to see how y'all interact with y'all daddies.

My dad was 5'9", 230 with hands made of sandpaper and stone... He could light the blunt by snapping his fingers...

I feel Lavar has the same hands.

My dad would've washed me, but its less about fear and more about respect for a grown *** black man that has seen some **** that I haven't and probably will never see.

Y'all bugging.
So we should fear Lavar and not criticize him because of his size and age? He can be criticized and respected at the same time. Older heads know this and respect it more than young men who are too intimidated to speak up. Disagreeing with your father or any older male figure isn't disrespect if it's about something that challenges you as a man.
 
For all the people that talk **** about Lavar, I'd like to see y'all say that to his face.

Dude looks like he can bar b q his *** off, slams miller lites and Hennessey, and has them 1980 crack era hands.

I'd love to see how y'all interact with y'all daddies.

My dad was 5'9", 230 with hands made of sandpaper and stone... He could light the blunt by snapping his fingers...

I feel Lavar has the same hands.

My dad would've washed me, but its less about fear and more about respect for a grown *** black man that has seen some **** that I haven't and probably will never see.

Y'all bugging.

Why would anyone be afraid to express their opinion to Lavar, let alone ANY man, in person?

"He look like he has hands" :lol: when's the last time you think that man was in an active scuffle? :rofl:
 
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That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

gotta agree, even if lavar was white he'd still get the same criticism. he rubs people the wrong way. and i like lavar; this is unbiased.



as for that post ucla "exposing" washington & fultz :lol: wasn't no secret that the huskies were booty. i know some of ya'll follow storylines and dont really watch games too crazy but sheesh
 
For all the people that talk **** about Lavar, I'd like to see y'all say that to his face.

Dude looks like he can bar b q his *** off, slams miller lites and Hennessey, and has them 1980 crack era hands.

I'd love to see how y'all interact with y'all daddies.

My dad was 5'9", 230 with hands made of sandpaper and stone... He could light the blunt by snapping his fingers...

I feel Lavar has the same hands.

My dad would've washed me, but its less about fear and more about respect for a grown *** black man that has seen some **** that I haven't and probably will never see.

Y'all bugging.

For as much **** as Lavar talks, I doubt he needs someone who's not his blood defending him like he's their daddy.

Lavar is a loud mouth and an egomaniac. Not everyone is going to respect that. It is what it is.
 
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We have all already agreed I could wash a Gorilla and a Kangroos wit dese hands.

LaVar can get this work if he wants it too. :smokin
 
That was some of the most **** riding **** I've read a day ricky

I do what I can, famb

:pimp:

It was more directed at people saying Lonzo should check his dad.

Lomzo frail as hell and seems chill.

Don't know why folks expect him to just roll up on his dad like that, just like i don't expect anybody on here to roll up on their dads like that...
 
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if his name was Larry Barnes, a white father, everyone would be praising him
That's not true at all. If anything, most of you guys are defending him because his name isn't Larry Barnes. There comes a point where you have to admit dude is doing goofy **** regardless of him being a good father. Like why are you calling out plays from the sidelines

Have you ever been to a HS basketball game? Or a middle school game?

Parent do this **** all the time.

And the race aspect is 100% true, if he was white or even a woman, he would be viewed different. LaVar is annoying to some because he doesn't fit into the usual stereo type the media pushes to folk.

And god forbid young black men that understand how black men are ******** on in the media and society defend other black men. Oh the horror. :rolleyes

You pedaling alternative fact pa

Of course there are parents who overstep their boudaries in amateur sports. I see it all the time. ****, we have a show on TV dedicated to Dance Moms, so I can see why a polarizing figure like Lavar Ball is seen as enticing by the media. I completely get it.

However, when bringing race into the matter, please give examples of others who have done the same and not nearly received the same amount of vitriol as Ball. Where the line gets blurred is that Ball is openly talking trash about guys to his son's superior, talking about other folks' kids, etc. THIS is where I would love to see examples of the folks you think have gotten away with what Ball is doing now. The hot takes are one thing, but he's taking things to a completely different level. Forget Whitlock for a second...he's a herb...you have folks from ALL walks of life, races, etc., completely NOT cool w/ how Lavar Ball is going about business.

Praise him all you want for being in his sons' lives. Nothing wrong with that. He obviously cares abotu his boys. However, he is absolutely not absolved from criticism for some of the stuff he's been doing/saying over the past few months. He's a sideshow, and unfortunately it's a shadow over his kids. Can't discuss Lonzo without bringing up his crazy father.

Who is absolving him? Many of the dudes in here that say they like him have criticized some of the stuff he does as well.

Not everyone jumped to defense when the news broke on his wife, or the comments on Lebron's sons, or the coach.

Also, just because people of other races, even black people, doesn't mean that he is getting 100% fair treatment

Because black conservatives didn't like Barrack Obama that doesn't mean he was not disrespect more because he was black.

Just because some black folk don't like Richard Sherman or think Kaep should stand, doesn't make all the criticism they have faced valid

And like mentioned earlier, the Mannings are look at as football royalty even when Archie was holding the Charger hostage. It doesn't have to be the only reason, but race play a part in such things.

-Btw, being critical of Ball's actions and acknowledging the media pushes the imagine of the single black mother in sports and LaVar does against this are not mutually exclusive positions to have.

I don't know why we must always begin from a position of "it is not about race". Let social scientist tell you, most things in this country have a racial aspect if you dig deep enough.

Archie Manning wasn't talking about other folks' kids nor pumping up his own boys while putting down someone who was already a 2x MVP in the league. The latter is a hot take, but disrespectful. THe former, is just flat out disrespectful. Simple as that.

This is why I asked for examples. I knew the Mannings would come up...maybe even the Lindros family....you wanna draw parallels between them and someone like Steve Francis who refused to hoop for Vancouver, sure. Go ahead. THERE is your racial aspect. I completely see it.

What Ball is doing is a bit unprecedented. Of course you got parents of kids who pop off at the mouth. However, has there ever been a prospect in the 4 major sports who had a mother/father who was this much of a loose cannon to the point where he was OFFENDING some of his son's potential teammates or opposition? I can't think of any. Again, please give examples. You prove otherwise, I'm more than happy to change my stance on this.

What's happening to Lavar Ball right now with the Whitlock hot takes, vitriol from other media members/fans, other athletes, etc. is his own doing. To me, as the days have gone on, I don't see anything racial about it.

C'mon man. Archie was covering up his son tryna putting his nuts on a chicks head. :lol: I love the Manning family but we damn well can't no black family just skate away with that.


In a country that's all about race y'all be real eager to say something ain't about race.
 
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