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post #61 of 1946
He needs to worry about getting Lonzo a fuggin' jumper so he isn't the next Carter-Williams.
post #62 of 1946
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He's also trying to start his own clothing brand, create his own shoe brand, and said Lonzo wont have an agent and it will be all in house.

He's gonna take so much of Lonzo's money. Feel bad for him because he seems like a real level headed kid. The other 2 aren't gonna do anything.

Lavar is a clown.
Uh Lonzo should give his Dad whatever he wants considering Lonzo probably wouldn't be in the league without him.

Same for Shabazz Muhammad's pops.

These guys are very much the reason why their sons are in the league. Theyve pushed these guys from as soon as soon as they could walk.

They specifically chose tall athletic women procreate with to give their sons even better chances. Everything was calculated.
post #63 of 1946

the dad trying to more famous than his kids
mama ball the same?
post #64 of 1946
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Pops wants to be a FOF so bad

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This probably went over many people's heads. laugh.gif
post #65 of 1946

8o

post #66 of 1946
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He's also trying to start his own clothing brand, create his own shoe brand, and said Lonzo wont have an agent and it will be all in house.

He's gonna take so much of Lonzo's money. Feel bad for him because he seems like a real level headed kid. The other 2 aren't gonna do anything.

Lavar is a clown.
Uh Lonzo should give his Dad whatever he wants considering Lonzo probably wouldn't be in the league without him.

Same for Shabazz Muhammad's pops.

These guys are very much the reason why their sons are in the league. Theyve pushed these guys from as soon as soon as they could walk.

They specifically chose tall athletic women procreate with to give their sons even better chances. Everything was calculated.

For every success story, there are countless (too many to name) where the star player flamed out at some stretch reaching up to the NBA level. Look at all the kids that declare early with agents. It's sad. Most have strong headed fathers or mentors pushing them just as hard.

For every Shabazz or Lonzo are 25 other kids who now hate their dads.


Even lower than that, from HS to just division I, most kids arent totally self motivated. They have parents or coaches and such pushing them in practices. Mr. Ball is no different nor better than any other parent who happens to just as motivating but behind closed doors. I

t reminds me of Bryce Harper in HS. He was hyped and there were stories of him practicing long hours with either his coach or his dad. Very tough drills. Now whether he still likes his coach/dad and for his own success, who knows. But he made it thanks in part to that sort of push. More than anything, those were silent sort of pushes. What we see today is a new level of parenting.
Edited by WallyHopp - 2/28/17 at 4:20pm
post #67 of 1946
I remember garnett wanted his own sub-brand with nike. Soon he was with and1.
post #68 of 1946

how many ahletes have a real chance at the league?

 

and how much does politics/marketing play a part?

post #69 of 1946
he sidestepped the media and upstreamed his kids straight to the public

they don't want the athletes to have their own anchor

they wanna be the support aka leech

they don't like it
post #70 of 1946
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I'm not mad at his dad because thats what a father supposed to do. It's sportscenter thats giving him the outlet. Why are they interviewing him?

As long as he keeps saying outlandish stuff, they're will be people sports wise to interview him. They're looking for a story and something to get attention for viewers. If he gave the usual pc answers most parents give, he wouldn't be getting the attention he's getting. But as long as he keeps making outlandish statements, the mic and camera will find their way to him.

Hopefully it doesn't do his sons a disservice in the long run.
post #71 of 1946
The Mannings did the same thing....actually worse and nobody cared
post #72 of 1946
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The Mannings did the same thing....actually worse and nobody cared

Yes, they said they wouldn't play for certain teams...but have they flat out disrespected another pro player by saying the quality of team play wouldn't drop off if their son stepped in someone else's *cough* steph curry *cough* shoes?
post #73 of 1946
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I'm sorry but these names Lamelo and Liangelo are ******* hilarious.

It's sad seeing a parent (usually a father when it comes to sports) trying to live through their kids.

LaVar's brother apparently got funky names too. Like one is named LaFrance. I got find the list. laugh.gif

-But even though he is annoying, his sons seems like level headed cool dudes, especially Lonzo. And he has provided a good life from them too, so let that man cook.
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post #74 of 1946
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LMFAO

they dad a lame fr

u can tell he always put them against each other, they talk **** so dry even tho its true

i aint kno gelo was 6'6 tho

and he still can't dunk mean.gif

Gelo can dunk laugh.gif

He just isn't the athlete Lonzo is.

But Gelo looked better last year. If he worked his athleticism and ball handling, I thought he could comeback and prove his UCLA offer wasn't just a handout to get Lonzo, but he looks worst this year.

He needs to lose weight.
post #75 of 1946
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LaVar's brother apparently got funky names too. Like one is named LaFrance. I got find the list. laugh.gif

-But even though he is annoying, his sons seems like level headed cool dudes, especially Lonzo. And he has provided a good life from them too, so let that man cook.

He means well. But all that extra stuff is just setting his kids up for unnecessary scrutiny and a bunch of people wanting them to fail to spite that dad. Added pressure and what not, especially for the younger ones still in high school.

At the same time though like you said, he provided a good life for them and pushed them hard which helped them get to this level. It's a double edged sword I guess. Hopefully he tones it down a bit though if it becomes evident that his words end up backfiring for his sons though.
post #76 of 1946
post #77 of 1946
He like one of them hood fathers.


"My lil boy better than all ya'll" laugh.gif


He going overboard though. I heard some clip on First Take when he was comparing his son's "brand" to Jordan's. Slow down Pops.
post #78 of 1946
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The Mannings did the same thing....actually worse and nobody cared

Go ahead and explain this...
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post #79 of 1946
Didn't Archie Manning refuse to let Eli play for the Chargers? Didn't they threaten to sit out the season if they drafted him?
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post #80 of 1946
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LMFAO

they dad a lame fr

u can tell he always put them against each other, they talk **** so dry even tho its true

i aint kno gelo was 6'6 tho

and he still can't dunk mean.gif

Gelo can dunk laugh.gif

He just isn't the athlete Lonzo is.

But Gelo looked better last year. If he worked his athleticism and ball handling, I thought he could comeback and prove his UCLA offer wasn't just a handout to get Lonzo, but he looks worst this year.

He needs to lose weight.
How do you explain the middle kid sitting some 1-3 months "resting" to give his younger brother "play". How can a father dictate so much, if its not the coach?

This whole situation is crazy and I wish no ill will towards the kids.. Just stop interviewing the dad.

I have never heard of a prime SENIOR sitting out months at a time resting for the playoffs? I get that you have a scholarship. But wow.. WHOS RUNNING THINGS?
post #81 of 1946
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LMFAO

they dad a lame fr

u can tell he always put them against each other, they talk **** so dry even tho its true

i aint kno gelo was 6'6 tho

and he still can't dunk mean.gif

Gelo can dunk laugh.gif

He just isn't the athlete Lonzo is.

But Gelo looked better last year. If he worked his athleticism and ball handling, I thought he could comeback and prove his UCLA offer wasn't just a handout to get Lonzo, but he looks worst this year.

He needs to lose weight.
How do you explain the middle kid sitting some 1-3 months "resting" to give his younger brother "play". How can a father dictate so much, if its not the coach?

This whole situation is crazy and I wish no ill will towards the kids.. Just stop interviewing the dad.

I have never heard of a prime SENIOR sitting out months at a time resting for the playoffs? I get that you have a scholarship. But wow.. WHOS RUNNING THINGS?

I'm not sure, but I believe Gelo has knee injury that is why he has been sitting out.
post #82 of 1946
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Gelo can dunk laugh.gif

He just isn't the athlete Lonzo is.

But Gelo looked better last year. If he worked his athleticism and ball handling, I thought he could comeback and prove his UCLA offer wasn't just a handout to get Lonzo, but he looks worst this year.

He needs to lose weight.
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post #83 of 1946
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Didn't Archie Manning refuse to let Eli play for the Chargers? Didn't they threaten to sit you the season if they drafted him?

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post #84 of 1946
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dam, i aint kno yo girl is 6'

u winnin, u got a son right?


Hell yea... Lol ***** don't give a damn about hoops tho. Son be at the piston game on his Nintendo 3dsplaying racing games, he's addicted to cars.
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post #85 of 1946
They alluded to it, and Eli and Archie did get a lot of crap for it. That was in 2004 right around the time the NFL network started. It was players on there giving Eli crap around that time talking about he would get his "welcome" to the league when he played. It was a bunch of articles critical of them too.

Elway, Steve Francis, Bo Jackson are a few others which come to mind with similar situations.

None of them or their pops said they would only play for one specific team before the draft, none of them proclaimed their son to be better than a reigning two time MVP or proclaimed their sons brand would be bigger than someone the caliber of Michael Jordan.

Lonzo's pops did the same thing prior players parents have done. He just took it to an entirely different level and did way more than those players situations in an era where social media is watching your every move and things are nitpicked in way we haven't seen before.

Hope it doesn't hurt his sons careers though.
post #86 of 1946
People always wanna be mad at someone's confidence laugh.gif:
Let the Ball family cook, nobody believes in someones dreams until they actually do it. Yeah the odds are against you, but you got to BELIEVE no matter what.
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post #87 of 1946
I don't think anyone's mad at the confidence. The positive or negative opinions on here have no impact on them or the family either way.

The pops running his mouth though can rub gm's and people in power within NBA teams off the wrong way though. Especially with something like "my son will only play for the lakers" The saying he's better than Curry stuff can rub players the wrong way that some basketball dad is saying his freshman son is better than the back to back MVP and is going to come dominate their league.

If it was Lonzo Ball confidentally making those bold statements I'd salute it. He's accountable for what he says and has to sink or swim by his words. He shouldn't have added pressure on him because of the words of his father though.
post #88 of 1946
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I saw the episode of First Take with this topic and i cant be mad at Lavar.

He wants best for his child, comparing him to Curry was a bit much, but if you want your child to succeed you set standards for your kid

It puts pressure on Lamelo, but it should also push and drive to be the best.

Either way, all 3 kids should have a good career in basketball.
You completely missed the point of this thread man laugh.gif
post #89 of 1946
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I'm not mad at his dad because thats what a father supposed to do. It's sportscenter thats giving him the outlet. Why are they interviewing him?
This type of response kills me.

"What is a father SUPPOSED to do."

Uhm, he isn't SUPPOSED to throw wild predictions out there that he probably doesn't even believe.

Man, put it this way. All of you parents can say, "My child is this and that" there is a piece of reality SOMEWHERE in your brains knowing damn well whether or not what you are saying is realistic.

There is no way I believe his father honestly believes the Steph stuff. No way he believes it.

Shut the hell up and be a PARENT and not a hype man

That is what a "Father is SUPPOSED to do."
post #90 of 1946
He should make some kind of bet about his son ending up better than Steph. If he loses the bet he can never talk again for the rest of his life.
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