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Does NickFolarin want to be a Lion fan again?

  • Yes, too bad he can't go back

  • No, he will wear his Bortles jersey with pride (but really shame)


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LaVar's comments about UCLA having slow white boys was debated, critiqued and analyzed all over social media, and sports outlets.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/06/lavar-ball-lonzo-ucla-kentucky-loss-slow-white-guys

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...a-basketball-lonzo/1uu2fgv6d1ufi1s7ji0v9io8yw

http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/07/lavar-ball-white-guys-ucla/

http://nypost.com/2017/04/06/lavar-ball-blames-3-slow-footed-white-guys-for-uclas-demise/

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...hite-guys-comment-was-misunderstood-love-guys

To say this:
 Don't see anyone blinking an eye when Alonzo Ball talks about white people and basketball (can't win with them or a number of them or something)... I guess it only goes one way though.
Is dumb. 

You tried it ITO 
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See. The problem comparing the racist to Vick, and Richie Incognito is that THEY GOT GAME.

That's the name of the game in the NFL, if you got game you get second chances, and third chances.

Riley was neeeeever close to those guys as players....he fits in the washed up ray rice category, and we saw how many chances he got....

That's my issue. Riley is weak + he comes with baggage.

Teams turn a blind eye to BS every year. That's the NFL....
 
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Oh people are in their feelings because Buc has a "not popular" opinion? Cool.

One guy does a scum bag thing, haven't heard a peep since, accepted back. Ok for guys like Vick and others but not ok for Cooper. A scum bag thing is a scum bag thing, if they fix and learn from it... it doesn't happen again. Great, if not then treat it as such.

Buc chooses to treat him as a 5th WR, who cares. Quit crying off another man's opinion. Y'all are ridiculously soft some times.

For the record before people start crying even more, he's trash and no I wouldn't want him on the Dolphins.


Mike Vick went to prison for 2 years, you damn right he can be accepted even though a lot people still hold that over his head. While KKKooper bum *** went to some sensitivity training for a weekend.


And who was it that tried to put out the fire for KKKooper? Mike Vick and he never got a thank you. :smh: :lol:
 
because the majority of the NFL's demographic can turn a blind eye to a white player using the N word.

Richie incognito still in the league right?

Richie Incognito has been a Pro Bowl guard both of the past two years since he's been back and is one of the best run blocking guards in all of football and he was saying some insane **** to a teammate that made this dude basically force himself into retirement he ****** him up so bad mentally :lol:

Kaepernick hadn't been regarded by two different coaching staffs as a better quarterback than Blaine Gabbert and still wants to be a starting quarterback and have a contract to match. He's an inaccurate passer whose best asset is his legs and needs a specific system in order for him to excel. Most teams either already have young QB's they're grooming or don't want a running QB that they would have to completely change their system for if their QB was to ever get hurt. The only ones I could think of that would make sense would be as Mariota, Dak or Tyrod's backup.

For the record, I would sure as hell take Kaep as Jameis's backup but I'm guessing they would want more of a pocket passer to match Jameis's style, and I think Kaep would rather sign with the Jets, Browns or Texans who don't really have a starter or sign with a team with a shaky starter or older guy where he'd have a chance to start or take over at some point. The problem is the Jets would probably rather see what they have in Hackenberg and Petty, Browns now have Kizer to groom, Texans have Watson to groom and Kaep would know for a fact he would never ever touch the field unless there was an injury if he was to sign with the Bucs or Titans. I don't think he's willing to accept that yet. So I really don't know where that leaves him. The Cowboys could definitely use a backup for Dak now that Romo is gone.
 
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Space missed the entire point of my original post and choose to focus on Ball. My point still hasn't been disproven, and Buc will get dumped on again when has his own opinion that's not popular with the rest of this thread. Also, again, don't necessarily care about Ball.

I didn't see any of that and listen to rich eisen every day, it was talked about once and then nothing. Cooper's situation on the other hand, still gets talked about.

It's not dumb, you know cherry picking when people are upset with race issues and want to be sensitive is real. Either be ok with all of it, or none of it.

READ: If people serve whatever they need to and get a second chance, either accept it and move on for everyone or don't. AT MINIMUM be consistent with your beliefs. To what MM said, we can accept Vick because he served his punishment for what he did wrong, hasn't done anything wrong since. Neither has Cooper.

Either accept it all, or be mad at all of them. Stop cherry picking what you're upset about.

Stop slamming Buc over the head for his opinions. It's nonsense... people wonder why there Is so much divide, can't even have a conversation with different opinions without calling someone a moron, stupid, or some snide remark.
 
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Ball married a white woman, he's a clown. By his logic, his son got smoked on the court that game because his white side showed up. Ball is a WWE character, he doesn't believe half the **** he says.


Why should Kaep be a backup if he's better than 5-10 QBs that are starting this upcoming season? Oh because he hates white people, the military, cops and is a distraction.
 
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He's a shhh talker.. you don't take those ppl seriously.. it's all fun and games until they are in a position to talk about something that actual matters.. or worse, they are in a position with legit authority


Same goes for barkley or any number of these dudes, as long as they stay in their lanes it's all gravy.. but as soon as they go to put their toes in the water, gotta get them up out the paint
 
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Why should Kaep be a backup if he's better than 5-10 QBs that are starting this upcoming season? Oh because he hates white people, the military, cops and is a distraction.

Who are these 5-10 QB's/teams that he should be starting on?

Niners - left them
Browns - would rather groom Kizer and see what Kessler looks like in a rebuilding year and I don't think they'd bring in Kaep after the RG3 experiment last year was a waste of time
Jags - he's not better than Bortles right now but it would be a solid spot for him if Bortles gets off to a rough start again
Texans - would rather groom Watson and have him compete with Savage
Jets - need to see what they have in Petty and Hackenberg
Broncos - need to see what they have in Lynch and Simien and Kelly are fine as backups
Bears - just gave Glennon a ton of money and used the #2 pick on a QB
Bills - not better than Tyrod
Vikings - not better than Bradford

So where exactly are you thinking that there's a good spot for him to start again?
 
If Kaepernick was good enough to start he'd he on a team just like Incognito, Mixon, Hill, etc.
 
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If Kaepernick was good enough to start he'd he on a team just like Incognigo, Mixon, Hill, etc.

This is what i dont get that people cant grasp. He's not good enough.

No one wanting Cutler completely debunks any blackballing theory imo. If Cutler isnt good enough then Kaep isnt. People want Kaep to be blackballed so they can say he was.

I think teams would rather attempt to find a gem on an unknown that could payoff in the future than fork over money to someone they know wont get them any closer to winning a championship.
 
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You can't say that wit any conviction. None of us truly know, we all got our differing opinions...
 
I think Kaep is a capable backup.

Thing is, he wants to be a starter. It's obvious that's not happening at this point.
 
If an NFL owner compares you to Rae Carruth, I think it's safe to say that he doesn't want you on your team. Regardless of skill..
 
Can't tell if some of you are serious.

- Denver wanted Kaep last year when he wasn't healthy and underweight. Now he takes a knee, is healthy and at playing weight and they don't want him and they were looking for a QB.

- Chicago just paid Glennon who has done much less than Kaep and probably paid him more than Kaep

- Bradford isn't good and it didn't work out last year. I'm taking Kaep over him ANYDAY.

- Texans were looking for a QB and Kaep wasn't good enough but their backup is good enough. Cool

- Jets don't have a QB, Trump's buddy owns the team and I never expected Kaep to go there even though there was interest last year, before his stance.

- Browns don't have a QB, their rookie last year had like three concussions.

You're telling me Kaep isn't a better option for these teams?! FOH, Buc you said you don't like Kaep so I can accept that as your reasoning, don't feed me ********.




Why is Kaep being mentioned with Cutler, Mixon or Hill? Two of them had domestic abuse and one has had issues on the field. One had his motivation, leadership, desire to play and effort questioned. Kaep's name doesn't belong with either of these players. To say Kaep isn't good enough to start when the lack of talent at QB today is extremely low is ****** insane to me.

Kaep isn't a top 10 QB but he would be a starter right now somewhere if he didn't take a knee. ****** crazy if you think otherwise. Would probably be in Cleveland, Houston or J E T E
 
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Can't tell if some of you are serious.

- Denver wanted Kaep last year when he wasn't healthy and underweight. Now he takes a knee, is healthy and at playing weight and they don't want him and they were looking for a QB.

- Chicago just paid Glennon who has done much less than Kaep and probably paid him more than Kaep

- Bradford isn't good and it didn't work out last year. I'm taking Kaep over him ANYDAY.

- Texans were looking for a QB and Kaep wasn't good enough but their backup is good enough. Cool

- Jets don't have a QB, Trump's buddy owns the team and I never expected Kaep to go there even though there was interest last year, before his stance.

- Browns don't have a QB, their rookie last year had like three concussions.

You're telling me Kaep isn't a better option for these teams?! FOH, Buc you said you don't like Kaep so I can accept that as your reasoning, don't feed me ********.




Why is Kaep being mentioned with Cutler, Mixon or Hill? Two of them had domestic abuse and one has had issues on the field. One had his motivation, leadership, desire to play and effort questioned. Kaep's name doesn't belong with either of these players. To say Kaep isn't good enough to start when the lack of talent at QB today is extremely low is ****** insane to me.

Kaep isn't a top 10 QB but he would be a starter right now somewhere if he didn't take a knee. ****** crazy if you think otherwise. Would probably be in Cleveland, Houston or J E T E

Denver just drafted Captain Hook and they like Sieman
Chicago signed someone in Glennon who's been waiting to prove himself even though it was way too much money. Then drafted QB #2
Minnesota just traded a 1st round pick for Bradford and absolutely would not replace him with Kaep lol. Not to mention they're waiting on Teddy.
Texans just drafted QB 1st round
Browns have like 5 QB's 2 of which they just drafted.
If the Jets passed on Cutler its not that hard to believe they'll also pass on Kaep while having just drafted 2 QB's

I think its insane to say its insane that Keap isn't starter worthy. He was getting beat out by Blaine Gabbert who was seen as an absolute joke. And before Kaep took a knee this whole board was clowning him with gifs of overthrowing dudes by 20 yards out of bounds.

And Buc makes a good point that on top of all that Kaep is a system QB that revolves around his legs. So if it hasn't been narrowed down enough that narrows it down even more.
 
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This man gets so enraged every time Kaep's name comes up :lol:

- Broncos need to see what they have in Lynch
- Jets need to see what they have in Petty and Hack
- Texans just drafted Watson
- Browns just drafted Kizer
- Glennon is 3 years younger, is 6'7 and in his one year as a starter he showed promise on a team that was a mess so teams see him as somebody with potential
- I may hate Bradford but he had 20 TD's and only 5 INT's with a 99.3 passer rating this past year and the Vikes invested this year's first rounder on him

Care to argue about this anymore?
 
Idk the reason Kaepernick isn't signed to a club but I do know that there isn't 32 caliber starting QBs in the league.

Comparing his situation relative to his position to others is unfair.
 
Kaep ain't good enough to start therefore he ain't on a roster.....

Kaep doing for the community ONLY because he's trying to make a team.....

Kooper's paid his due, by taking a paid week's vacation sensitivity training class...

#AllLivesMatter

Mike Evans sits during anthem *Crickets*..... Mike Evans apologizes.... That's a good nigg boy team player, he came to his senses!!!

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