Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

Chance just got 20,000 people here a week or two ago, so he is close if not on that level
 
Cole and Kendrick ain't with Drake, Drake is a pop act. I don't even group him with other rappers.
Not just sales. Sales are part of it but popularity in general. Hit's, sales, popularity, fan base, mainstream looks. Future has checked all those boxes since DS2.
So you're saying Future is AS POPULAR as Kendrick/Cole?

Maybe on your block.

Worldwide is a different story. 

Cole/Kendrick have headlined multiple tours. Foreign and Domestic. Future is NOT there yet. 
 
Chance's next album is gonna put him in that superstar teir. I just cant see him flopping. Unlike Future, he can put up a brick and live off singles...
 
There's a concerted effort by the machine (idc if he's "Indy" or not) to make the Chance the next megastar.

He most certainly will be mentioned with the Drake's and Kanye's pretty soon.
 
Oh lord. An effort by the machine :rolleyes

Dudes can't even achieve high status without their being a supposed agenda anymore.
 
There's def a push for chance. He's ok....but they overate th **** outta him and treat him with kid gloves.

His team has to be A1....and shorty has to be personable as **** :lol:
 
there was a post in one of these threads stating how Chance family is big in the political world. As in his dad has Obamas personal number type sht :lol:. He's absolutely getting a push, although i will say up until last year Outside of blogs i could go daily w/o hearing a thing about chance, After that last album tho he's kind of unavoidable
 
That's the way people consume music nowadays man. Can't even say it's the "future" anymore, it's the now.

Over 100 million ppl on paid music subs, that's more than Netflix.
 
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:lol: Hahahaha Hahahaha still not understanding how streaming is a legit metric. Can it be manipulated? Of course...but that's with almost every music consuming metric.

I caved in and subscribed to Apple Music. It's def worth it.
 
I believe it is awesome that artists are getting paid off YouTube views of their videos/songs and streaming. It cuts out the labels who've been doing artist dirty for almost a century. Whether people like the music or not. Build your fanbase, make money off YouTube, streams, and shows.
 
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:lol: Hahahaha Hahahaha still not understanding how streaming is a legit metric. Can it be manipulated? Of course...but that's with almost every music consuming metric.

I caved in and subscribed to Apple Music. It's def worth it.

It's def a legit metric, but I do feel it's pretty easy to tell what's legit and what's not. If your songs have a 100 million streams, yet your song doesn't actually register anywhere, and people barely know your name, we know those #s are a farce :lol:
 
I believe it is awesome that artists are getting paid off YouTube views of their videos/songs and streaming. It cuts out the labels who've been doing artist dirty for almost a century. Whether people like the music or not. Build your fanbase, make money off YouTube, streams, and shows.
This, labels been finessing for to long
 
This, labels been finessing for to long

what makes ya'll think labels aren't raping artist on streams :lol:.. if anything artist are getting even less off of streams. However if your independent Streaming is a gamechanger, because instead off releasing a song as a loosie on mixtapes, you can now upload it directly to the streaming services and make a check off that.
 
what makes ya'll think labels aren't raping artist on streams :lol:.. if anything artist are getting even less off of streams. However if your independent Streaming is a gamechanger, because instead off releasing a song as a loosie on mixtapes, you can now upload it directly to the streaming services and make a check off that.

That's the game right there. Dudes like Dolph, with solid fan bases and videos that do a couple mil, plus having your songs on streaming sites and free mixtape sites allow artist like that to get paid and build their fan bases.


Watch from 9:50 min mark of this video to the end.

 
A lot of artists have spoken on streaming. Artists don't get paid and they're manipulated but I don't get it....got it.


Future had hits before streaming, album didn't sell ****.

Future got hits now, all of the sudden he's platinum.

I don't think it gets any clearer than that. Artists getting robbed, quality of music is at an all time low and me listening to Future Ain't No Way Around It 25 times today should count as an album sale? Even though I listened to it for free or off someone else's paid account. Sure


These labels are telling simple minded fools that this album is double platinum. Then people say damn, double platinum. I gotta check it out or he's one of the best. The labels are good, real good. Still tricking artists and fans.
 
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Cole and Kendrick ain't with Drake, Drake is a pop act. I don't even group him with other rappers.

Not just sales. Sales are part of it but popularity in general. Hit's, sales, popularity, fan base, mainstream looks. Future has checked all those boxes since DS2.

So you're saying Future is AS POPULAR as Kendrick/Cole?

Maybe on your block.

Worldwide is a different story. 

Cole/Kendrick have headlined multiple tours. Foreign and Domestic. Future is NOT there yet. 

G-Unit is still hot worldwide. That don't mean ****. In America Future has been one of the 1-3 hottest dudes the past 2 years.
 
A lot of artists have spoken on streaming. Artists don't get paid and they're manipulated but I don't get it....got it.


Future had hits before streaming, album didn't sell ****.

Future got hits now, all of the sudden he's platinum.

I don't think it gets any clearer than that. Artists getting robbed, quality of music is at an all time low and me listening to Future Ain't No Way Around It 25 times today should count as an album sale? Even though I listened to it for free or off someone else's paid account. Sure


These labels are telling simple minded fools that this album is double platinum. Then people say damn, double platinum. I gotta check it out or he's one of the best. The labels are good, real good. Still tricking artists and fans.

Future is a terrible example to use because he's 3X bigger of an artist than he was when "he had hits" and "his album wasn't selling. And it's not like the jump was anything to crazy. He went from a 60k first week artist to 140k first week artist. That's reflective by him catching lightening in a bottle, carving out his sound and running with it.

Streams are a solid indicator man. It makes sense.
 
Abel making bread off of streams.
The labels dont make money off streams, much the artist. Touring is artist bread and butter, which is why there are sooo many.

Budden has read off plenty of legit articles about labels making millions from streams and artists getting nothing.

Labels do this because they make mad money and they can make it seem like artists are selling mad copies. Good for business. I've posted Billboard articles on streaming before and the fake numbers they produce while the labels get rich off it.
 
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A lot of artists have spoken on streaming. Artists don't get paid and they're manipulated but I don't get it....got it.


Future had hits before streaming, album didn't sell ****.

Future got hits now, all of the sudden he's platinum.

I don't think it gets any clearer than that. Artists getting robbed, quality of music is at an all time low and me listening to Future Ain't No Way Around It 25 times today should count as an album sale? Even though I listened to it for free or off someone else's paid account. Sure


These labels are telling simple minded fools that this album is double platinum. Then people say damn, double platinum. I gotta check it out or he's one of the best. The labels are good, real good. Still tricking artists and fans.

his joint album with drake was futures biggest turning point coupled with never ending mixtapes/albums

he rode the drake momentum better than anyone

if you let drake hop on a song you gotta have bodies of work ready to go
 
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