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I mean, since dude been out, the direction of rap now has been mimicing off his style....
Give credit where due
Give credit where due
Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
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This is true...but how much does this matter in terms of his status as an artist? Influence is a factor...but a very minimal one when talking about who is and who isn't on the elite tier of artists. Chief Keef is probably just as (if not more) influential on Pop Culture & Music than even Future. But how much does that matter on the business side of the equation?
People gonna have to take their biases out of this debate. I still think the people who are so shocked that this is being questioned believe that you are slighting future if you say he isn't on the elite tier of artists.
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Agreed.
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Lil B and Plies have had a huge influence on rap over the last 10 years, I wouldn't call either of them a super star. Influence isn't as important as you think. Megastar is when you're the biggest in music and recognizable by people's mom's, grandma's, uncle's and everyone. 50 Cent is a megastar. Everyone knows him, no one knows Future but the youth. My mother, my sister, my girl could point out a megastar. I doubt any of them could point out Future or give a **** about his music but they would be familiar with some Kanye, Jay or Drake records
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I swear forums like KTT made me despise the whole influence argument. Not all influences are GOOD. I like Lil B but the artists hes spawned outta his influence have mainly been trash. This goes for ALOT of other artists who have influenced this generation as well
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Because it's obvious who's a megastar and so far nobody has disagreed on who a megastar is. Jay, Em, Ye, Drake. Also it's a lot of factors that play in to it that defines what a megastar is and we haven't really discussing what makes a rising star, star, superstar, megastar, but I'm willing to talk about it.
Future doesn't fit the megastar title. You tried to use covering a magazine cover to justify that title, and put Future on a list with Madonna and yet you don't see how ridiculous that is. Madonna is a global icon. Drake is global. That's a fact. Hotline Bling was massive. Mask off, which is his biggest hit to date, doesn't touch it by a long shot. I think it's fair to say we don't know how far Future's reach is which is why I'm iffy on calling him a superstar. He's on the edge of becoming one in my opinion, but not fully fully there. He's had the run and the numbers, but the two things that separate him from Kendrick and Cole's is that I don't think his reach is that far and that he's not held in high regards with the masses. General consensus is that Cole and Kendrick can't miss at this point. Everybody is paying attention to those them when they drop, and their reputation is what puts them in that level. Future, imo, doesn't have that same appeal. He still has his lane that he's in and I don't think he commands the same attention and regard as those two despite doing those numbers.
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Hotline Bling? 
Stop...
Stop...
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For what it's worth...I definitely believe Future will inevitably reach that elite tier soon.
IMO, if he stops putting out album after album after album after album....and take some TIME to craft one cohesive project that captures his entire range of sounds...as long as the machine promotes it properly...he could easily be the biggest out.
IMO, if he stops putting out album after album after album after album....and take some TIME to craft one cohesive project that captures his entire range of sounds...as long as the machine promotes it properly...he could easily be the biggest out.
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Hotline bling has a billion youtube views. That's just one metric to use to put Drake in that megastar category.Hotline Bling?
Stop...
You put Future on the same level as Nirvana and "Paul McCarty"
Which was very trollish. You stop.
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Future & HNDRXXX are both two very cohesive projects tho...
At the end of the day these conversations solidify one thing: Super- and Mega-stardom are opinions differencing from person to person with no way to universally agreeable. He's a superstar with mega-superstar appeal. He can reach spots that most wouldn't expect because they just toss him in with "mumble rappers".
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People disagree on them both being cohesive. I think that's a mixed bag. I'm not gonna say for sure, but I would think that most in the Future thread prefer HNDRXXX.
And I somewhat agree with the terms being different for each person, but there are certain rights and wrongs.
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Future will be a megastar when the 5 ppl in front of him decide to retire before 2018.
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Like what? Cause at any point it's going to end up being subjective.
They all can't be megastars? One/some has to drop off?
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Two MCs can't occupy the same space at the same time. It's against the laws of physics- L.H.
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Y'all
Calling xxxtentacion a megastar isnt subjective. It's simply not true at so there sre rights and wrongs.
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I am mostly with you on hip hop Wavy but I'm with Osek206. Future is no Megastar and is maybe a super star now. Dude is not shutting down malls and common area such as restaurants or stores as Drake, Ye, Jay, or even Bron and Mayweather in the sport world.
Dudes love to give their artists more power than they deserve because they bump with their music. Like Joe said it's not a shot at dude for not being a Megastar but lets be real on who is on the top level now and in the future to come.
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Hasn't 2chainz work with most of these artist and he's not a megastar plus his rap lane is trendy
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People know I'm the biggest critic of Future on this entire message board. Dude definitely is a Megastar. I hate Drake, he's pop. If Drake never did pop rap or bit so many artists, he wouldn't be so heralded. Biting is what keeps Drake afloat.
Anyway it's Drake, Kendrick, J. Cole, Future. Top 4 in demand rappers right now.
Anyway it's Drake, Kendrick, J. Cole, Future. Top 4 in demand rappers right now.
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Being big in rap doesn't make you a megastar. Cole isn't a megastar, I don't think Kendrick is either. You could argue Kendrick but I don't think so and I'm a huge fan of his
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who made this claim/where did this come from?
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Cole and Dot definitely not megastars. Superstars. I don't think people understand the megastar title.
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As far as the Rap/hip-hop genre? They are, besides, in today's landscape of music. We don't have a Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, Beatles, etc type artists. No one is setting the bar high, overall. But in rap music? Cole and Dot are superstars. Hip Hop/rap is still a newer genre.
But we don't have mega stars like we had in past decades.
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Jay Z. Em. Ye. Drake. Whenever the first 3 drop, all attention is on them. And Drake owns the game right now. Kendrick sold more, but Drake has a far global reach and has more ventures outside music.
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A mega star to me is
Jay, Puff and Kanye. They're much bigger than music and are a part of pop culture. It doesn't matter if they do music or not.
Drake, Kendrick and Cole aren't on that level. They're totally dependent on music.
Jay, Puff and Kanye. They're much bigger than music and are a part of pop culture. It doesn't matter if they do music or not.
Drake, Kendrick and Cole aren't on that level. They're totally dependent on music.
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I should clarify, post 2009 rappers. Talking newer names. Drake is a pop artist man. He's part-time rap, part pop. Kendrick and Cole are emcees. I'll agree with the global outreach. And Drake DEFINITELY seeks out the ventures outside of music. He's an attention *****. Dude literally sits courtside just to heckle NBA players. He seeks attention and spotlight.
J cole and Kendrick don't clamor for the spotlight or attention, like Drake does. You can't hold that against them. They could be on those same Drake platforms but, they're both reserved individuals by nature.
