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Then why isn't Daz's music as good as Dre's?

There's a difference in making a beat and producing the song.

Same with Kanye.

This right here, Daz also was in a zone during that era all he had veeb working on up to him getting signed all his best now had a platform to get out.

Also lets not act DJ Quik wasnt at Death Row ghost producing and mixing as well
 
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Then why isn't Daz's music as good as Dre's?

There's a difference in making a beat and producing the song.

Same with Kanye.
I personally like DPG first album w NY NY and Doggystyle more than The Chronic. Daz's beats on All Eyez were tough too.

Dre and Ye definitely are good orchestrators. Along w Puff. 

We've seen Ye chop up samples from start to finish but there's always seemed to be an asterisk by Dre whether it's Warren G on The Chronic, Daz on Doggystyle, Scott Storch, Mel-Man.

The fact that we've heard from multiple sources...but ppl have always said that about the Puffs, the Timbalands, the Ye's, the Dre's but Pac summed it up nicely at 1:22



Seems like to me Dre gradually got away from making beats after the NWA days and although he remained a producer, he still knew that giving people the impression that he was making beats from scratch was vital to his brand. And it obviously was as many would consider him the best producer of all time. Would that be the same if he came out like Puffy did and acknowledge that it's "Dr. Dre and the Dopeheads" or w/e instead of just him?

But I definitely acknowledge that there's a difference between making a hot loop on an MPC or FL Studio and then transforming that into a hit/classic/timeless record that Dre and Ye and Puff have many of.
 
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This right here, Daz also was in a zone during that era all he had veeb working on up to him getting signed all his best now had a platform to get out.

Also lets not act DJ Quik wasnt at Death Row ghost producing and mixing as well
Huh?
 
Dre is not a great beatmaker, he's a great producer.
He has a team and he orchestrates the whole song from start to finish all the details
 
I always thought Snoop was wack for that playing both sides ****.


Mad funny how many times Pac called Dre a homo. There was even the behind the scenes clip where he's going on and on about Dre being gay.


Daz is a legend. He had maaaaad beats that were hard as ****. ****** legend. Thought his OG name Dat N Daz was hard as **** too.
 
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how was snoop playing both sides if these ****** were just label mates lol

pac going that hard for suge and DR was admirable from the perspective of pac wanting to be militant and loyal but foolish in the long run as it cost him his life and everyone else got the **** out of dodge
 
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Who was doing NWA, Eazy and DOC?

No, he was still a great beat maker

of course u left out the DJ the most obvious answer to that question :lol:

https://www.google.com/amp/uproxx.com/smokingsection/dr-dre-10-best-co-producers/amp/

the deeper you dig into this the more tainted dre will become

lets just leave it at he's a great businessman and orchestrator and deserves to be on hip hops mount rushmore for everything that he's had a hand in as far as making the culture a phenomenon multiple times w/ nwa, death row, iovine, eminem and kendrick (although i really dont know how involved he was w kendrick/tde and interscope)

but its become apparent dude wants people to think he's a better beatmaker than he is

otherwise, why not give credit? puff and kanye have no problem letting ppl know about their collaborative efforts
 
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Yeah Dre at make every beat we hear from him. Dre's the best at mixer and mastering. Make sure that MFer is crisp and sharp as possible. The sound quality on N**** 4 Life is ridiculous for it to came out in 91. To this day nothing sounds as good as Chronic 2001.
 
 


I know y'all seen this. This ***** was high key ridiculous man and I love 2pac
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Dude legit changed and got charged up whenever suge and death row was around lol
Yup you could just that Pac changed whenever suge and those fools were around. Suge put the battery in dude's back and he became a fake blood by association.

Dude died in the weakest way man. The ultimate "I know I don't have real stripes so Ima show y'all how down I am" and ran up on the wrong ***** trying to prove he was with the *****. Dude two pieced orlando, thought **** was sweet, walking through MGM with his chest out, standing out the sunroof, adrenaline was probably on 1,000,000 and boom, that was wrap.
 
Dr.Dre is one of the best Rap/Hip Hop engineers.Just like Puff.Theyll get a hit song from other artist/producers.And bring out the best out the song.Changing the sound,telling the artist how to record there vocals,mixing the vocals down.Thats his strong point.Hes the cat behind the mixing board.That can paint a pacasso in a rap format.He is a legend.But if youve been in the industry.Then you know most producers/artist will use your beat,song for there own gain.They might pay you for it.Or just out right steal it.


Like Daz said recently.If your a new Rapper/Producer.You need to put out the music first yourself.Most people want to take there songs/ideas to other rappers/producers.Which is no no in the game.Dont get it confused.Dre has done what the Puffs,Timbalands,and other legends have done.Taken others songs,ideas and put it out like its theres.He is a legend though.His strong point is engineering though.And putting the right pieces of a song together.


Funny that the Aaliyah Feat DMX (Back in One Piece) was sampled from NWA (****** 4 Life).People would look confused when i would tell them that.


Its funny that most people say Pac was a fake blood.To me Fake is what Wayne and Chris Brown are.They never put in work.Never had real beef like that.There doing it as a fashion statement.Pac was in a bad situation on the East.He felt like he needed the right goons that would have his back.Them cats did have his back 100 %.They just let Pac run around with Suge recklessy.And it fell apart.To say Pac made the wrong moves is a given.


But i wouldnt call him fake though.Fake is talking s***.Then backing down when confronted.Pac went in it 100% with full steam with no fear.Is it sad,yes.Because he had more potential and things to accomplish.But knowing the hand he was dealt.He handled the situation how he wanted to.He knew the repercussions of his actions.Listen to his music.It may sound crazy.But some people are willing to due for there respect.Pac was one of those type of cats.


Theres gangbangers that havent did the little street stuff Pac did.That also havent been through what he went through.Put it this way.The Bloods and Crips in L.A. werent saying Pac was a fake this and that.I was down there almost a year after he passed.Funny thing about it.Crips where bangin Biggie heavy.Back then.I wasnt analyzing it that hard.They werent talking bad about Pac at all.They showed love to Pac.Thats why its funny to see people online say Pac was fake.He wasnt fake at all.He just moved in a way that most disagree with.
 
Yup you could just that Pac changed whenever suge and those fools were around. Suge put the battery in dude's back and he became a fake blood by association.

Dude died in the weakest way man. The ultimate "I know I don't have real stripes so Ima show y'all how down I am" and ran up on the wrong ***** trying to prove he was with the *****. Dude two pieced orlando, thought **** was sweet, walking through MGM with his chest out, standing out the sunroof, adrenaline was probably on 1,000,000 and boom, that was wrap.

its so many ways he could have avoided it even after the fight tho

suge could have made his best efforts to turn left or drive off once the first shots fired

pac could have acquired a vest and some security when he went to change knowing he just jumped a crip

and then this ***** wears a jersey of all things lol

he really was feeling himself
 
Another thing is Trayvon never got the chain took
So in reality PAC died over a chain that didn't even get took in the first place...
 
its so many ways he could have avoided it even after the fight tho

suge could have made his best efforts to turn left or drive off once the first shots fired

pac could have acquired a vest and some security when he went to change knowing he just jumped a crip

and then this ***** wears a jersey of all things lol

he really was feeling himself

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] Yea man dude rocked a jersey if he would have rocked a vest he only gets hit in the arm & leg...I wouldn't call PAC fake either he was just a follower honestly he made a adolescent decision at 25...Trying to prove himself to other grown men I'm pretty sure the Bloods would have still respected his decision if he would have just laid back & chilled...Even Big Rock a Piru that's locked up but he was around Death Row PAC shouted him out on TO LIVE & DIE IN LA he said he didn't agree with the homies having PAC on the front line like that in VEGAS that night he said they should have handled that they're job was to protect PAC & DEATH ROW...
 
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DR didn't make PAC do anything that night
nobody told him go fire on a known Crip
Pac took it upon himself to run up and ask Lane was he from the "South" and proceed to drop him
 
i cant lie though

hearing stories about a ***** who became down w the set in his early 20's as a likely millionaire asking dudes "where you from blood" on some movie cartoon **** definitely taints the image of all the good he put here and was about to put here

he really was about to be a black power action hero or some **** lol and he threw it all down the drain for the approval of other grown *** men
 
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