What would you decide to do? (serious topic)

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i'll preface this by saying that i know there's probably a more fitting place to present this especially on the internet. niketalk means a lot to me i have been a member for about 15 years now. it's my solace. so for anyone taking the time to read this, comment or not, i appreciate you.

as i write this i'm currently at a crossroads in my life that i hope will be the hardest thing ill ever have to do. people always say "things could be worse" and going further in life, i understand circumstances arise but i hope decisions, at least, will not have to be more burdensome than right now.

i'm 29 years old right now and when i was a teenager this was a girl who lived in my area that always had my eye and probably my heart. i didn't know why but there was always something about her. she was beautiful. she was funny she was smart and witty. we never spoke on a one to one basis. she was the popular girl and i was the introvert, overweight at the time with very little self esteem. i knew her through mutual friends and the days of AOL, and then later on facebook etc.

trying to condense as best as i can, i later lost the weight and gained confidence and dated a lot of girls. some serious some flings. but i never forgot about the girl i'm writing about.

almost 4 years ago we were both in the right place at the right time and we connected. we instantly fell for each other, well she fell for me and at the time she didn't know i had fallen for her almost a decade prior.

things moved fast and before we knew it we were in a very serious relationship. the first date we went on, i said her last name and she looked at me funny and i laughed and said "that's not going to be you're last name for long".

during the course of our relationship we had our issues like everyone else but nothing serious, zero infidelity, no major breakups. we were normal...to an extent.

the major factor was that her dad got caught up in something and had to serve time. he was under house arrest the first year we dated and has been serving his time since. the way things look he should be home by the end of this year.

on the flip side my family makes a good living what they do. my father, my cousin (who is more of a brother to me) and best friend all work in the same place. the career is a good one but there are rules in place by the government that disallow any association with certain people for as long as they are employed.

i've had different jobs through my life but none would be more solid and career worthy than what my family does. so running parallel to the time i dated my girlfriend was a time process of me being an applicant to this said career.

fast forward to now it's come to the point and to my attention that the hold up for my approval process is because of my girlfriends father and what i have now learned recently who he has associated with in his past and possibly present.

i've come to terms with forgoing this amazing career opportunity but my problem doesn't end there. my problem arises that how am i supposed to marry this girl i always loved. while my family and friends still hold jobs in a career that forbids association with who could be my father in law. there can be no parties together. that includes a wedding which would also include 3 of the most important people in my life. my father and 2 people who would be my best men.

my father won't be working there forever. i would say 5 years max before he would retire. my cousin and best friend are a different story.

for as much as i have written there's probably 10 times more than i didn't include such as the process and surveillance i've been under during the time waiting to be granted the job. and when i say surveillance, i'm talking deeper than a job interview where they look at your social media. this is the reason why i am posting this under a username that is not my usual username.

my hearing, that's what they actually call it, is june 14th. it is then that they will decide on my character as a person and how if any, at that point, if i have any affiliation with her dad other than seeing him when he was home, just by circumstance of dating his daughter.

my girlfriend is devastated knowing that despite how much we do love each other we'll never have a normal life for as long as my family has their jobs and her father is viewed as who he is by said job enforcement.

it is even at the point that if i did break up with my girlfriend there's still a possibility that i'm not guaranteed the job. but like i said earlier that's not my biggest concern. my biggest concern is our families (more specifically, her father and my father) not being able to be around one another.

i doubt anyone has been in this situation but if you have any input or advice from something similar it would be most appreciated.
 
I've thought about that. the job does exist in other states with less stringent rules at least for my employment.

but it still affects my father, cousin and friends who wouldn't be relocating
 
Unless you are certain that this woman is going to be your wife and you know in your heart that that you are going to spend the rest of your life with her, you need to choose your career first.

Your going to have to live with either decision and I think that unless she is the one, money/career and what it provides to your self preservation comes first.

Good luck bro.
 
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Unless you are certain that this woman is going to be your wife and you know in your heart that that you are going to spend the rest of your life with her, you need to choose your career first.

Your going to have to live with either decision and I think that unless she is the one, money/career and what it provides to your self preservation comes first.

Good luck bro.

i would have married her had things not turned out this way. up until now it wasn't a guarantee her dad would be a problem. but after having my attorney reach out to them, he basically said if they want to make it an issue they can.

not saying i still wouldn't marry her, i just can't see how to do so while keeping both sides separate
 
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Why are you only trying to take this job now if your family has been in it for a while now? What do you do for a living right now? It seems to me you need to know if you actually have the job before you can make a decision.
 
Why are you only trying to take this job now if your family has been in it for a while now? What do you do for a living right now? It seems to me you need to know if you actually have the job before you can make a decision.

the application process for this job wasn't available until the time i applied. it's offered every so often.

i won't know if i have the job until the summer. my hearing is in june and the can take up to 30 days to make a decision.

seeing as though her father is the reason for the hold up. there may be a better chance of being accepted rather than denied if we are broken up.

but regardless of my fate with the job my ultimate problem is having a wedding and even a normal life with the people around me being under employment and her dad being him
 
Sounds like you're in the government or contracted with the government and your family has security clearance/you're looking to get yours.

Overall if you're happy with your fiancee then you're going to have to deal with this for the rest of your life. She didn't get to choose who her parents were so just make sure you don't take it out on her. If you're going to resent her over this then you need to break it off. If not, and you're happy with her now then there's no reason to break it off even if it means this career then turns into a bust.

Things change and people change so don't put too much stock in the "5 years down the line mentality" you gotta handle what's best for you today.
 
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i appreciate all the responses.

i just want to reiterate the fact and hopefully get some insight on the family aspect of it.

i'm looking at the future possibilities of having to leave people of of important events regardless of whether i'm employed or not.

i'm talking the wedding, baltisms, birthdays, christenings. these are things that would be focused on by the employers as events of interaction
 
Can't you just "break up " with her for the job purposes technically but still me friends, if u know what I mean ?...

Get that money mane ...you may not find another chick exactly like your girl now but there is def gon be another that's catches your eye/heart

You not old so this is still the time to be trying to make moves and get as much outta life as possible , I'm the same age as u
 
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I've been married almost 5 years, have 2 kids and this is what I got to say. Who cares about the damn wedding? Have a party without her pops, then have a small get together without your father and cousin, or don't have a wedding reception at all. Dont think it's as big a deal as you make it. If this amazing career is really what you want, you know what you got to do. For us, when holidays pop up, we usually do one day with the wife's family, and a separate day for my family. Rarely do we have my mom and brother's family hanging out with the wife's family anyways. If this is the woman you are sure you want to spend the rest of your life with, why the hell are you worrying about get togethers that play such a small role in the grand scheme of things.
 
:smh: @ the reading and comprehension level in here. OP is basically in a catch 22 even if he does forego this career opportunity. His Pops, cousin and best friend won't be able to attend any of the family events that would ensue were he to eventually marry his girl.

OP, when you have your hearing it's probably best if you're forthcoming with the panel. I'd imagine they would ultimately make the decision based on your unique circumstances. Bringing up possibilities of a wedding and other events would probably be wise as well, since they're the only ones who can give you a definitive answer.

What it boils down to is how much do you love your girl and could you imagine a life without her. Completely severing your relationship seems to be the only option for you if you want your family and best friend to be able to participate in your future life events.
 
Can't you just "break up " with her for the job purposes technically but still me friends, if u know what I mean ?...

Get that money mane ...you may not find another chick exactly like your girl now but there is def gon be another that's catches your eye/heart

You not old so this is still the time to be trying to make moves and get as much outta life as possible , I'm the same age as u

in terms of the first part, if we were to be broken up and then they gave me the job based on that...and then down the road got back together they would find out and i would be forced to leave the job.
 
Do they got you on surveillance?

How do they know about yall bbq'ing at the park?

I would say not get married or have a wedding. Save your money. You can spend the rest of your life with her without that fluff.

If all they know is what's written on forms and such then keep all information off the books.
 
This a CIA gig or something? Strange how a job dictates your personal life to that level
 
This a CIA gig or something? Strange how a job dictates your personal life to that level


Word. Im thinking CIA or NSA or some **** :lol:



But then again i just finished reading confessions of an economic hitman and im over here thinking OP is gonna be an EHM :lol:
 
I've been married almost 5 years, have 2 kids and this is what I got to say. Who cares about the damn wedding? Have a party without her pops, then have a small get together without your father and cousin, or don't have a wedding reception at all. Dont think it's as big a deal as you make it. If this amazing career is really what you want, you know what you got to do. For us, when holidays pop up, we usually do one day with the wife's family, and a separate day for my family. Rarely do we have my mom and brother's family hanging out with the wife's family anyways. If this is the woman you are sure you want to spend the rest of your life with, why the hell are you worrying about get togethers that play such a small role in the grand scheme of things.


:smh: @ the reading and comprehension level in here. OP is basically in a catch 22 even if he does forego this career opportunity. His Pops, cousin and best friend won't be able to attend any of the family events that would ensue were he to eventually marry his girl.

OP, when you have your hearing it's probably best if you're forthcoming with the panel. I'd imagine they would ultimately make the decision based on your unique circumstances. Bringing up possibilities of a wedding and other events would probably be wise as well, since they're the only ones who can give you a definitive answer.

What it boils down to is how much do you love your girl and could you imagine a life without her. Completely severing your relationship seems to be the only option for you if you want your family and best friend to be able to participate in your future life events.

the thing is that i'm not the one that cares about the weddings or events and stuff like that. i care about her and only her, i feel my relationship is more important than "one big party".

she said she's the only child and only grandchild and that she wants to have a wedding it's something she's always dreamed of. that her family waited her whole life for it

anyway the last week has been really bad for the both of us and today my lawyer more or less confirmed with them that if her dad and my family members were present at a wedding it could present a problem.

i conveyed this news to her and she said it's over then.

i'm upset man i just don't understand how this is how it has to end
 
Do they got you on surveillance?

How do they know about yall bbq'ing at the park?

I would say not get married or have a wedding. Save your money. You can spend the rest of your life with her without that fluff.

If all they know is what's written on forms and such then keep all information off the books.

yea they do surveillance. i don't have proof but phone taps as well.

the job isn't, but the people who oversee is a form of the FBI pretty much.


This a CIA gig or something? Strange how a job dictates your personal life to that level

i can't put into words how much they dictate your personal life.

what's it's done to me mentally in terms of coming between someone you love is on another level.

my family is distraught.

Leave that ******** career alone.

Story sounds like rubbish.

i wish i was making this up my man.

and leaving the career isn't my problem. it's the extenuating circumstances that i can't change.


Word. Im thinking CIA or NSA or some **** :lol:



But then again i just finished reading confessions of an economic hitman and im over here thinking OP is gonna be an EHM :lol:

lol nah no CIA or NSA.

the job has to do with the ports.

the government has a commission that oversees it
 
well the easiest advice i would give is to tell her yall can't get married right now because the job will afford you a better life together. She should understand. Tell the employer you deaded it and move on with both. but I'm assuming your dealing with a lie detector test otherwise you could just tell them you cut the affiliation or they're tracking mail or something she's getting because you live together .. I dunno If thats the case break up. get the job. get back at it with no paper trail.
 
Word. Im thinking CIA or NSA or some ****
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But then again i just finished reading confessions of an economic hitman and im over here thinking OP is gonna be an EHM
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They don't go that far lol unless his girl and girls family are terrorist .
 
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