Hip Hops promotion of pill abuse and other hard drug abuse

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My cousin overdosed on Percocet and lorazepam yesterday. I watched my cousin turn from a suburban talented fine art artist to a pill-popping, face tatted wannabe blood who had 5 kids with three women. I can't help but think that hip hop culture has played a role in his transformation because he was one that followed fads and he was very impressionable. He lost his father at a young age so that could have played a role in his demise, but when I look on instagram and Facebook I often see many similar impressionable kids engaging in similar wreck-less behavior. Hip hop has always embraced drug culture, but when I grew up on hip hop rappers tended to rap about drug dealing more than drug use. When they did talk about drug use it tended to be marijuana use. UGK did talk about lean, but It seems more rappers are promoting hard drug use nowadays. What says you guys about hip hop's fascination with popping pills and sipping lean in 2017? We can't blame hip hop for everything, but I think it's an interesting topic to discuss.
 
First off my condolences and rip to cuz. That type of Rap is now marketed in the mainstream, like you said it's always been a niche type of Rap but now it's at the forefront. It doesn't take a genius to understand why either
 
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Some rappers are glorified junkies.
It went from rapping about hustling, dranking, and smoking kill, to popping pills, mixing **** and doing it all day while bragging about how much they spend on dope.

Certain kind of ****** wanna do certain drugs just cuz they hear it in a song. ***** sad.
 
My condolences bro...



You right tho it has shifted. I remember watching a Cormega interview a while back and he said something along the lines of back in the day you never heard of a crackhead brag about smoking crack, but now you got these pill poppers glorifying it.
 
It's not even about placing blame. The truth is the truth. All music influences. It's art...that's why the **** was made. To influence.

People are going to come in here and dispute it with the intent to "defend Hip-Hop", without understanding that it's not the culture itself that's responsible. The finger needs to be pointed at the corporate entities that are responsible for USING Hip-Hop as a vehicle to promote these ideologies via mass media.

I don't have a beef with Future. I have a beef with the men that own Future. 

It's not just hip-hop either. It's not just music period. Social engineering is happening all around us. Music is just one of the tools used in the process. Albeit a very powerful tool. 

Sorry for your loss tho man...
 
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I was watching a video the other day in the fools wildin thread of some HS kids dancing at a pep taller to Mask Off. I can only imagine the number of HS kids that have tried Molly and Percocet because of that song. I purposely don't play much hip hop around my niece and nephew because I don't want them to be influenced by such vulgar music. My sister has a bad habit of playing the worst music around her kids and I'm trying to get her to stop. Especially this new era rap that embraces being a junkie.
 
my buddy managed a walgreens and there was a crazy rise in young kids buying/stealing cough syrup. i dont even know if the over the counter stuff is even strong enough, but i guess if you consume enough?
 
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getemgirls said:
It's not even about placing blame. The truth is the truth. All music influences. It's art...that's why the **** was made. To influence.

People are going to come in here and dispute it with the intent to "defend Hip-Hop", without understanding that it's not the culture itself that's responsible. The finger needs to be pointed at the corporate entities that are responsible for USING Hip-Hop as a vehicle to promote these ideologies via mass media.

I don't have a beef with Future. I have a beef with the men that own Future. 

It's not just hip-hop either. It's not just music period. Social engineering is happening all around us. Music is just one of the tools used in the process. Albeit a very powerful tool. 

Sorry for your loss tho man...
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It's fans and rappers to blame too bro, these dudes start talking about this **** in mixtapes too. A rapper usually makes a certain style hot since it's different. Streets embrace it, label signs him, said label and other labels sees success and sign others with similar style, music spreads like hotcakes.

I can't rock with this new wave for the most part. All their doing is making "cool ****" anthems now instead of rhyming and mixing it in on verses.
 
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Certain forms of music promote indulgent and pleasurable yet self-destructive behavior. This is absolute poison to the impressionable youth and labels know it but they find all type of ways to justify it because it's profitable. Everyone doesn't have competent parents and the entertainers are who they look up to. It's a sad cycle and it's only going to get worse.
 
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sooperhooper said:
Certain forms of music promote indulgent and pleasurable yet self-destructive behavior. This is absolute poison to the impressionable youth and labels know it but they find all type of ways to justify it because it's profitable. Everyone doesn't have competent parents and the entertainers are who they look up to. It's a sad cycle and it's only going to get worse.
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Even the idea that merely having competent parents can prevent these things isn't so black and white as many want to make it seem.

The entire concept of "teenage rebellion" is centered around the subconscious desire to establish one's own identity independent of their guardians. So quite literally, there's only SO much a competent parent can do. All you can do is impart as much knowledge and wisdom and hope for the best.

You know how many ****** I know that grew up in upper-middle class environments, went to "good schools", had two active parents, yada yada yada...and STILL had the desire to partake in the underworld? Good boy, college graduate...but thought they could "flip bricks". And then reality sets in when you in a precinct holding cell crying like a ***** like you on Rikers...even though you bout to get released in the morning. 

Idolatry is real. People subconsciously have deified entertainers. 
 
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Freddie Gordy said:
Some rappers are glorified junkies.
It went from rapping about hustling, dranking, and smoking kill, to popping pills, mixing **** and doing it all day while bragging about how much they spend on dope.

Certain kind of ****** wanna do certain drugs just cuz they hear it in a song. ***** sad.
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Rappers went from anti drugs to drug dealers to drug addicts in 20ish years.

I wonder if it's a coincidence [emoji]129300[/emoji]
 
artists been tripping off drugs since the beginning of time
some of these stuff kids are into are just way to hard :x
god knows who they are getting it from as well
whatever happened to good ol cannabis, lsd, shrooms, etc
 
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getemgirls said:
Even the idea that merely having competent parents can prevent these things isn't so black and white as many want to make it seem.

The entire concept of "teenage rebellion" is centered around the subconscious desire to establish one's own identity independent of their guardians. So quite literally, there's only SO much a competent parent can do. All you can do is impart as much knowledge and wisdom and hope for the best.

You know how many ****** I know that grew up in upper-middle class environments, went to "good schools", had two active parents, yada yada yada...and STILL had the desire to partake in the underworld? Good boy, college graduate...but thought they could "flip bricks". And then reality sets in when you in a precinct holding cell crying like a ***** like you on Rikers...even though you bout to get released in the morning. 

Idolatry is real. People subconsciously have deified entertainers. 
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So true. The crazy thing is that my suburban cousin adopted this super thug image, face tats included and his mother is a retired police officer.
 
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First off, my condolences. Did he die of an overdose or is he recovering from an overdose?

Secondly, let's stop with blaming Hip Hop. That's Floyd Mayweather small mind logic.

Opioid use is at an epidemic level in this country right now. Google it. It is literally causing the extinction of WHITE PEOPLE in this country. They aren't the target audience for Hip Hop music so who's to blame?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/health/life-expectancy-decline-mortality.html

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.time...eaths-exceed-births-united-states/?source=dam

Lastly, the FDA is to blame.

As of 2017, 3/4th of the FDA budget (approximately $700 million) is funded by the pharmaceutical companies due to the Prescription Drug User Fee Act.[5][6]

Here's what Andre 3000 had to say...

Yo, paragraph indent, I make intense sense
****** on that Gil Scott dope (hint hint)
At age fifteen they start smokin' Billy Clint'
Now he's twenty-one and wants to know where the time went
Hey hey hey what's the haps? Well see your time elapsed
Have you ever thought of the meaning of the word trap?
Baboon on your back, but what's sad is that crack
Was introduced to Hispanic communities and blacks
But then it spread to white and got everyone's undivided attention
Cause your daughter is on it and you can't hide it
Maybe your son tried it, rehab too crowded
You scared, she scared, they scared, I said
They scared they scared to talk about it
Bout it bout it bout it bout it bout it
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getemgirls said:
 
Even the idea that merely having competent parents can prevent these things isn't so black and white as many want to make it seem.

The entire concept of "teenage rebellion" is centered around the subconscious desire to establish one's own identity independent of their guardians. So quite literally, there's only SO much a competent parent can do. All you can do is impart as much knowledge and wisdom and hope for the best.

You know how many ****** I know that grew up in upper-middle class environments, went to "good schools", had two active parents, yada yada yada...and STILL had the desire to partake in the underworld? Good boy, college graduate...but thought they could "flip bricks". And then reality sets in when you in a precinct holding cell crying like a ***** like you on Rikers...even though you bout to get released in the morning. 

Idolatry is real. People subconsciously have deified entertainers. 
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Yup I really think it all comes down to mindset . You are a follower and can't think for yourself you will be influenced by everything around you. I was in highschool listening to Wiz Khalifa and 3 6 Mafia , I never started really smoking tree until freshman year of college.
 
OP, thought u had a cuz killed by the police the other day ...now another one died ??...either u got a real tragic fam or u back on that bottle again and lying

TimidTebow said:
My unarmed cousin was killed by a police officer tonight,but I was criticized last night for saying not much has changed in this country smh. You guys don't live the life here like I do. My heart is broken and I'm looking to hurt a cop smh.
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Brolic Scholar said:
First off, my condolences. Did he die of an overdose or is he recovering from an overdose?

Secondly, let's stop with blaming Hip Hop. That's Floyd Mayweather small mind logic.

Opioid use is at an epidemic level in this country right now. Google it. It is literally causing the extinction of WHITE PEOPLE in this country. They aren't the target audience for Hip Hop music so who's to blame?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/health/life-expectancy-decline-mortality.html

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.time...eaths-exceed-births-united-states/?source=dam

Lastly, the FDA is to blame.

As of 2017, 3/4th of the FDA budget (approximately $700 million) is funded by the pharmaceutical companies due to the Prescription Drug User Fee Act.[5][6]

Here's what Andre 3000 had to say...
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Thank you , lets come with the FACTS . I went to high school in Loudoun County one of the richest counties in the US. My high school classmates are dropping like flies from that dog food . Literally offering money to figure out who's selling bad batches instead of just stop using. Back in high school these white kids were on molly , roxy , oxy , acid, shrooms , tree, special K and now they have all graduated to heroin . Don't put the blame on Rap music .
 
Having an isolated discussion about one thing...does not mean that another thing is being ignored or relieved of "blame". 
 
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Reason why a lot more people are on that boy is opioids like oxy are not only harder to get but more expensive. They also got the new ones wit the gel around it so they cant be tampered with and snorted or shot up. Boy is essentially cheaper and easier for em to get.

Up here cats be cutting it wit that fentynal (china white) which is like 1000x more addictive.
 
Brolic Scholar said:
First off, my condolences. Did he die of an overdose or is he recovering from an overdose?

Secondly, let's stop with blaming Hip Hop. That's Floyd Mayweather small mind logic.

Opioid use is at an epidemic level in this country right now. Google it. It is literally causing the extinction of WHITE PEOPLE in this country. They aren't the target audience for Hip Hop music so who's to blame?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/health/life-expectancy-decline-mortality.html

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.time...eaths-exceed-births-united-states/?source=dam

Lastly, the FDA is to blame.

As of 2017, 3/4th of the FDA budget (approximately $700 million) is funded by the pharmaceutical companies due to the Prescription Drug User Fee Act.[5][6]

Here's what Andre 3000 had to say...
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He died unfortunately. The hip hop stuff influenced my cousin though I believe. He lived a fake rapper fairytale even though he wasn't about that life. I agree with what you said.
 
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Yes in world of influencers a lot of people are easily influenced . Word to Fyre Festival
 
frshstunna said:
OP, thought u had a cuz killed by the police the other day ...now another one died ??...either u got a real tragic fam or u back on that bottle again and lying
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Why would I lie about losing family members??
 
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