Official 2017 NBA Offseason Thread: Media Days begin

[junglejim]

It doesn't matter. Again...they'll be able to give them what they want if KD opts out and signs a one dear deal because Golden State retains their bird rights. 

This is how Cleveland was able to cash everyone out thanks to Lebron signing short deals. They'll be in luxury tax hell but that's a price I'm sure they're willing to pay. 

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. I think they would still still have a cap hold for his salary until he officially signs elsewhere.

They can still go over the cap regardless of whether KD opts out since they have Iggy's bird rights. Pretty sure lebron did that as a power play.

 

[freeze]

pg really just a better rudy gay/danny granger type dude. Hasn't really taken that next step. He wants to be the guy and thats cool..but he's the one who will drop 40, keep the game close...its down 2 with 7 seconds left..decide he doesn't want overtime...dribble for 6 seconds, heave a 38 footer...in slow motion....run take a shower...do his interviews...hop in the car and hit up the t-bar...as the ball sails out of bounds.

He'll be great in a system..but i dont really see how he can be the straight iso, creator, orchestrator guy.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

1.  Durant will opt-out of his current deal, and become a free agent again.

This was always the plan. He only signed the one-plus-one (one year at the max plus a player-option) as insurance against a possible major injury this season, so he’d have that extra year just in case he wanted it.

He doesn’t need it. He’ll opt-out, as a prelude to…

2.  Durant will agree to another one-plus-one deal with the Warriors, similar to the deal he signed last July,  except he likely will take just a 20% raise to $31.8M, which the Warriors can give him without fitting him into cap space.

If Durant insists on making absolute max (about $35.5M to start), which he is wholly worth, the Warriors would have to fit him into cap-space again because they do not have his Full Bird Rights, and to do that they would have to renounce both Iguodala and Livingston, and lose their Bird Rights to both, and that would probably mean losing both.

But Durant has given every indication that he will take the 20% raise in order to give the Warriors the flexibility to pay Iguodala and Livingston whatever salary necessary above and beyond the cap number.

By doing this new 1 + 1, Durant would be eligible to receive a “super-max” deal of about 4 years, $160M (** I ORIGINALLY WROTE 5 years, $205M BUT BECAUSE DURANT WOULD BE AN “EARLY-BIRD” HE COULD ONLY GET AT MOST FOUR YEARS h/t @nateduncanNBA **) in July 2018 when the Warriors would have his Early Bird Rights.

Which, again, is what is extremely likely to happen.

3. Curry will agree to a “super-max” extension, five years worth about $205M, but it will not be announced or signed until after all the other deals are done.

As I’ve noted many times before, there’s really no strategic reason for Curry to take a dollar less than the super-max, especially because he has been so vastly underpaid almost from the moment he signed that four-year, $44M deal in 2013.

Curry has earned every dollar possible — because he’s a Bird Rights player, the only thing taking less would affect is Lacob and Guber’s profit level, and Curry has already contributed more than enough to that.

And Lacob told me Monday that the Warriors would do “whatever it takes” to re-sign Curry.

There’s your super-max deal.

So, presuming Curry and Durant agree to extensions at those starting numbers, the Warriors would have about $105M committed to seven players + Jason Thompson’s stretched salary next season.

Curry
Durant
Draymond
Klay
Kevon Looney
Damian Jones
McCaw
And they still have two more annual $945k charges after using the “stretch provision” to release Jason Thompson last season.

The Warriors would be about $22M short of the apron and would still have Iguodala and Livingston’s potential contracts and many other roster spots to fill, including somebody to start at center.

4. Iguodala will likely sign a multi-year extension with the Warriors worth somewhere between $8M to $12M per year.

Obviously, Iguodala remains an immensely valuable player for the Warriors, especially when their main rivals feature LeBron James — go to Game 5 of the Finals for a reminder — and it’s possible Iguodala could get a larger offer from another team.

But he loves playing for the Warriors, loves the Silicon Valley connection, loves winning titles (which help out his potential Hall of Fame case), understands that he is extending his career by playing with so many stars, and if the Warriors step up with the number of years, this seems like a relative slam-dunk.

Back in 2013, Iguodala signed for four years, $48M — in a time of a much smaller cap number, but also when he was 28, not 32, and if you adjust for all the factors, getting just a little less of an annual salary in exchange for multi-year stability seems about where this is going to land for Iguodala.

Iguodala has already indicated that his negotiation is almost already done and that he will re-sign with the Warriors, though I’m sure there are still deal points to be finalized.

Months ago a source indicated to me that the only real issue to be worked out was the number of guaranteed years.

5. Livingston will be a much more open-ended situation and it’s a coin-flip whether he stays with the Warriors.

Notably, Livingston has given every indication that he’d prefer to stay with the Warriors, and the Warriors clearly would love to bring him back, but both sides understand that there are many factors in play here.

Livingston, 31, has never made huge money, has been through catastrophic injury, plays a valuable position, and if he gets a large multi-year offer, it’s probable that the Warriors won’t match it.

Then it’ll be Livingston’s call, and he deserves the right to make as much money as possible.

But there is some squeeze for Livingston here, coupled with Iguodala’s situation; let’s say Iguodala lands at $10M next season — that brings the Warriors within only $12M of the apron, with a lot of other roster spots to fill.

If I had to guess, I’d say the Warriors would hope Livingston comes in at around $6-7M per, and would not require longer than a two-year deal.

6.  After Durant, Curry, Iguodala and Livingston, I don’t think the Warriors will be interested in offering anything much over the minimum to any other free agents— and anything over the minimum would strictly be with their exceptions (tax-payer mid-level being the biggest, at about $5M per to start).

As multiple NBA sources have told me, it’s all about the Warriors “Big Four and Iguodala” — this whole thing is built on Curry, Durant, Klay, Draymond and Iguodala, and nobody else is going to be set up for any significant dollars.

They can always fill in around the top five guys. That’s the general sense and it’s not wrong.

 

[pums]

If isaac gets picked and the wolves have no choice to pick Lauri they should sign iggy
Rubio Wiggins Iggy Lauri KAT
Dunn/jones Lavine Bazz Bjelica Alrdich

 

[friscostylez]

i mean in this very quote, it shows the warriors have $22 million to spend on iggy and livingston lol. that's not happening unless both players take a huge pay cut. Iggy can get at least 18 mill a year his damn self and i think livingston can get around 10-12.

 

[Cashflow]

i don't think the warriors will give iggy 18+ a year.

I think Iggy can get 20 in this market if he wants to

Livingston is worth at least 12 too

The Dubs have some decisions to make!

 

[freeze]

gah damn. Iggy can get 18 a year?? ****. That's a lot of dough. He should grab that bag. Most guys in the L probably nevwer expect to actually win a chip. Here he is with 2 and a fmvp. And been a part of the greatest 3 yr span in nba history. Plus he isn't really the type to make up the lost in contract money in other areas like endorsements, so, its just good business to chase that check.


At the same time, winning is addictive af.

 

[friscostylez]

i don't think the warriors will give iggy 18+ a year.

I think Iggy can get 20 in this market if he wants to

Livingston is worth at least 12 too

The Dubs have some decisions to make!

so why do people think the warriors won't have troubles re-signing both of them then? lol

 

[430AM]

In the past 3 years have the Warriors had to pay any type of luxury tax?

 

[dennistrane]

Celtics/Sixers trade is official 

So the Kings 2019 pick is protected too if they dont get the Lakers pick next year lmaoooo

fleeced lmaooo

 

[freeze]

i understand it was bad ankles, but i legit cant believe chef was getting 11-12 mil these past few yrs lol. wild. when you see dudes next to you with that brinks truck on daytons.


in business a lot of times dudes have no patience and get to anxious and when the money isnt to their liking, their effort isnt there. Very respectable that he brought it every night. I mean 12 mil is nothing to shake your head at but when a dude hat averages 3 points a game is getting 20 a yr..well..yeah.


especially after you hear murmurs that he doesnt get along with Lacob..



son bout to get that blank check now doh.

 

[suberzat1]

Sooooo what does this mean

 

[MVP]

For Pacers rebuild, source says Kevin Pritchard is considering Lance Stephenson as the point guard. Lance has lost 10-plus lbs, looks great.

 

[Fozz]

In the past 3 years have the Warriors had to pay any type of luxury tax?

I believe they were suppose to pay a tax before the start of the 15-16 season, but Myers found a way to get under the cap by trading for Gerald Wallace, I think.

I'm not sure if they would have to pay for this year.

But a report came out that they may have to pay as much as $300mill in taxes by the 2019-2020 season.

 

[darthfett]

Watch philly get lonzo ball since they need a PG and they made that trade because they knew lakers were taking him ???

 

[junglejim]

Watch philly get lonzo ball since they need a PG and they made that trade because they knew lakers were taking him ???

This would be fantastic.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

The Sixers clearly made that trade to draft Fultz.

 

[freeze]

For Pacers rebuild, source says Kevin Pritchard is considering Lance Stephenson as the point guard. Lance has lost 10-plus lbs, looks great.

does he have abs?

 

[darthfett]

The Sixers clearly made that trade to draft Fultz.

Fultz offensive game doesn't look that great .. a simple crossover anyone in the park can do that is easily stoppable

 

[addict4sneakers]

Cesar >>> Fultz

 

[freeze]

The Sixers clearly made that trade to draft Fultz.

Fultz offensive game doesn't look that great .. a simple crossover anyone in the park can do that is easily stoppable

can you stop it tho?


does art thou hoop?

 

[Peep Game]

Other than my own team, I'm here for the Clippers trading for Paul George and being able to sign him to an extension, just to see this thread go down in flames.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Fultz offensive game doesn't look that great .. a simple crossover anyone in the park can do that is easily stoppable

Fam, the entire trade was contingent upon Fultz coming in to meet with the team at the last minute. Your assessment of his game is irrelevant here.

They literally made the deal to grab him,

 

[freeze]

Curry was spotted by paparazzi at Nobu with his family and friends for dinner in Malibu

Why Sonya so damn bad doh

 

[Peep Game]

if you heard his speech during the parade, you could tell he knows he probably won't be back in GSW.

The GM or the owner, I can't remember who said it, made a terrible mistake telling him, West and those guys to take the pay cut again in their actual speech

You got to save that for behind closed doors. I couldn't believe it when I heard them say it

I said the same thing :x. Like bruh legit said 'We thank you guys so much for your sacrifice. It is to be commended. It has been appreciated. You deserve more but were willing to take less in the name of team. Now here you are, champions. We want all 3 of you back next year. So you may just have to take the sacrifice again. Yayyyyyyyy!!!'





son what

lmaooooooo wow