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Platanos got thin skin
Broadcast of David Ortiz roast cancelled b/c of racist jokes...
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These have been posted a million times in a million threads by a million NTers but it's still a good watch
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I understand. If it wasn’t a funny joke, that’s one thing.
But saying it’s about serious stuff and we should put ourselves in their shoes is irrelevant IMO.
It’s comedy. Part of the punch in race jokes / offensive jokes is the “**** did he really just say that..” factor. You know? The other part tho is it being funny of course so if you only have 1/2 then it won’t work well.
I’m obviously a believer in comedy being a no holds bar as far as topics go. I get angry when people try to put barricades on it. Unfunny jokes are unfunny. But saying it’s an unfunny joke because it’s offensive is past the line of understanding what comedy is.
Haven’t watched the skit btw I’m just talking in general
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"I want to be able to call white women straight headed ****" [emoji]128512[/emoji] love Patrice
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Godfrey wasn't a huge ******* ******* to a person who may have been a rape victim or knew a person with that trauma.
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If you go to any stand up show you should know the comedian and their style of material before deciding to go. Basic research.
For example if you don’t like cussing / offensive words for a woman’s private parts and a gay man, don’t watch Louis CK.
For example if you don’t like cussing / offensive words for a woman’s private parts and a gay man, don’t watch Louis CK.
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I miss Patrice man
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This right here. Still listen to his radio stuff, never stops being funny.
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I 100% agree.
The issue here, though, was that NESN clearly was out of their depth and had no clue what they were doing.
Y’all keep comflating this as an example of the public being too sensitive, but the network is who pulled the show.
And I don’t think anyone said racist joke aren’t funny. The point is the person and their talent level is much more of a factor than the substance of the joke.
I’m of the belief that you could make fun of pretty much everything, if you’re good at being funny.
Unfunny people telling racist jokes just come off as racist most times when you remove the humor.
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I see where you're coming from in the sense that the jokes weren't funny. To that extent I agree. It's in poor taste if it's not funny and becomes blatantly insulting.
But what I don't agree with is the limits put on comedy. It's comedy. You should be able to say anything to any audience. Some people might get offended, well tough luck if it hits you in the feels. They can't adjust their act for a niche group of people who find it offensive. Just leave or don't watch them. But to protest, heckle or want to take that bit out of the act is ridiculous, especially if it explodes the room with laiughter. IMO, It's not in poor taste to poke fun at the hardships some people go through in life because the whole point is to lighten it up. And as an audience seeing a COMEDY show, they should lighten up as well.
Yes it's serious life/death ****, but it's happening. Does it happen less if it becomes part of a comedy special? Do more people die? Of course not. This goes across the board with rape, abortion, race, sex or religious jokes. You shouldn't have to put yourself in their shoes and think about it at a comedy show. It's a show that's supposed to be funny. As an audience member, if you can't set your **** aside for an hour, just leave.
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True.
Like I said I was speaking in general cause the first few posts on page 1 were basically “racist jokes aren’t funny”
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i feel like this is more an issue of entitlement
people talking like comedy is this divine act of human creation
like ultimately what they find funny is more important than the next mans opinion
and as if desensitization, belittlement and stereotypes arent spread thru "comedy"
white people used to laugh at blackface, but i guess black people were just being "sensitive"
people talking like comedy is this divine act of human creation
like ultimately what they find funny is more important than the next mans opinion
and as if desensitization, belittlement and stereotypes arent spread thru "comedy"
white people used to laugh at blackface, but i guess black people were just being "sensitive"
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Exactly. It's a slippery slope.Originally Posted by Hand2HandKing
white people used to laugh at blackface, but i guess black people were just being "sensitive"
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So where should the line be drawn (if any) with roasts?
Let's say Gronk killed it w/ good material...like Jeff Ross type of quality...would folks be looking at this situation a little differently?
Let's say Gronk killed it w/ good material...like Jeff Ross type of quality...would folks be looking at this situation a little differently?
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Originally Posted by Hand2HandKing
white people used to laugh at blackface, but i guess black people were just being "sensitive"
Exactly. It's a slippery slope.
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Very much. You get into that weird territory where it's like okay should people be saying this?
Then do you have to apply what people are offended by to musical expression to deem it okay or not? Art? Movies and TV? Books? It's a very weird place to operate in.
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I see comedy as an art form.
The sounds of people saying “you can’t say n***** in movies like that” to Tarantino when Django came out were silenced because 1.) it’s accurate for the time it portrays and 2.) it’s a movie and he’s the artist. If he wants to put it in there, he has a right to. Whether a company funds it after that or whether people like it after that, that’s up to other people. But he, as a director and writer (aka artist) has a right to make his art.
Comedy is comedy. Some of it ismeant to offend. If you can’t handle it, stay out of it. None of these big name comics making these racist or rape jokes actually believe that it’s okay to put down black people or rape people. That’s the point. It’s a joke. It’s a show. It’s an act. It’s funny and offensive, both because of each other.
The sounds of people saying “you can’t say n***** in movies like that” to Tarantino when Django came out were silenced because 1.) it’s accurate for the time it portrays and 2.) it’s a movie and he’s the artist. If he wants to put it in there, he has a right to. Whether a company funds it after that or whether people like it after that, that’s up to other people. But he, as a director and writer (aka artist) has a right to make his art.
Comedy is comedy. Some of it ismeant to offend. If you can’t handle it, stay out of it. None of these big name comics making these racist or rape jokes actually believe that it’s okay to put down black people or rape people. That’s the point. It’s a joke. It’s a show. It’s an act. It’s funny and offensive, both because of each other.
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Great question...
spizike231
brought up a good point about Tarantino and his usage of racial slurs in his movies....
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I think basically if you are going to step into that territory better make sure your **** is tight or just leave it, word to Kramer.
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i rest my case...that Jew joke is 3rd grade old
face it fellas, we're in a victorian/Puritan era with comedy...
The Tiana joke is hilarious. Btw, Eff the Bruins.
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I've never watched a Tarantino film and felt like him using a racial slur improved the quality of any scene. Just seems like a weird fetish dude has.Great question...
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I've never watched a Tarantino film and felt like him using a racial slur improved the quality of any scene. Just seems like a weird fetish dude has.Great question...
It’s for accuracy.. Django was set in slavery days.. everyone on the set agreed that if anything, the usage of the word was downplayed for the time setting it was in.
He does it because he’s an artist who loves realism. Thus the blood and gore and slurs and cussing.
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Didn't Kramer spaz out on someone in the audience? Can't remember exactly the context, but I don't think what he did was part of his standup routine...
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They also said that the whipping scene was hard to do, but needed to be done for the film to really hit home. And I agree. I cringe when I watch it, but it really sets in your head because they didn’t hold back.
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