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blackngold1z	NYPD iPad and iPhone Sting		Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3845 12/17/11 4:18 PM	Tags : None http://www.myfoxny.com/dp...nd-iphone-sting-20111216 NYPD iPad and iPhone Sting Kelly: Clerks thought items were stolen Updated: Friday, 16 Dec 2011, 10:32 PM EST Published : Friday, 16 Dec 2011, 10:32 PM EST By DAN BOWENS MYFOXNY.COM - The Santa Barbara Deli on East 12 Street is stacked to the windows with household supplies for sale, but the NYPD said a merchant inside was more interested in buying stolen electronics. Through an interpreter, the clerk admitted that he tried to buy an iPhone and even negotiated the price. The only problem was that he didn't know the salesman was an undercover officer. The man swore he didn't know the phone was supposedly stolen, but NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said the undercover cops made it clear they had stolen goods for sale for deals that were too good to be true: iPads and iPhones for less than $200. Kelly said undercover officers tried to make 600 sales; 141 people took the bait and were arrested after cops said money was exchanged: 42 in Brooklyn, 41 in Manhattan, 31 in the Bronx, 21 in Queens, and six on Staten Island. The NYPD conducted the sting at convenience stores, delis, newsstands, and even barber shops. It was a two-part sting that followed decoy operations in the subways to the thieves that steal electronics from straphangers. Both operations were a direct result of a recent increase in the theft of personal electronic devices from people on the city's transit system. Kelly said the shops were targeted because they are known to deal in stolen property. But the clerk swore he wasn't going to sell it in the store. Instead he thought he had an early Christmas gift. Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/nypd-ipad-and-iphone-sting-20111216#ixzz1gpBLLxlU Anyone else have a problem with this? I would much rather the NYPD use their resources to catch real criminals. Try catching people that are ACTUALLY stealing ipads, ipods, and smart phones on the train or off the truck than Joe Schmoe being entrapped in a come up too good to pass right around the holidays. And I am no conspiracy theorist but lets not kid ourselves. We know damb well who they were targeting. TEAM PLATANO PSN: burrrNT Tumblr: http://alexarias84.tumblr.com
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OkayKK		#1	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 290 12/17/11 4:30 PM	If cops shut down their fences, then they have nowhere to sell their stolen merchandise. I understand how you feel but I guess its like how detectives only care for people who sell weight versus people selling dime bags.
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thejrob		#2	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4293 12/17/11 4:40 PM	Damn. smart lil sting move. Not surprised they caught a bunch of peeps... @theJREVolution TEAM LAKERS TEAM DODGERS
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HankMoody		#3	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4531 12/17/11 4:42 PM	Joey Park is cackling and rolling a blunt right now. There’s no easy way to say this so I’ll just say it, I met someone. It was an accident, I wasn’t looking for it, it wasn’t on the make, it was a perfect storm. She said one thing, I said another, next thing I knew, I wanted to spend the rest of my life in the middle of that conversation. Now there’s this feeling in my gut she might be the one. She’s completely nuts in a way that makes me smile, highly neurotic with a great deal of maintenance required. She is you, ____. That's good news. Quaecumque sunt vera Niketalk Goodreads Group
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rtdix214		#4	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 190 12/17/11 4:45 PM	so this is what our society has come to, setting ppl up to buy stolen goods wow entrapment at its best
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blackngold1z		#5	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3847 12/17/11 4:53 PM	I mean dont get me wrong. I really like the second half of the sting. Put some frail dude in the train station with an ipad2. When a goon tries to press him and steal it, the boys come out the woodwork and lock said goon up. The criminal is getting what he deserves. But picture a random dude waiting in the barbershop for his turn. Someone walks in and said yo I got those ipads for cheap. He bites and is in cuffs before he can even reach his wallet. The worse part is that since Ipads are valued at over $400, the person is now a FELON and cant vote, if his job is anything of importance he will probably get fired, will never have a government job, will not qualify for government programs, etc. TEAM PLATANO PSN: burrrNT Tumblr: http://alexarias84.tumblr.com Last Edited By: blackngold1z 12/17/11 4:56 PM. Edited 1 time.
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fly23s		#6	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 115 12/17/11 4:59 PM	lmaoo my dad took the bait too. %^$&& pigs another way of making money for this guys
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skills		#7	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 187 12/17/11 5:07 PM	That's a little extreme in my opinion. I can see how this can stop some new customers, but the old customers will continue to cop from the same dude and refer him new customers.
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OkayKK		#8	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 291 12/17/11 5:10 PM	blackngold1z wrote: I mean dont get me wrong. I really like the second half of the sting. Put some frail dude in the train station with an ipad2. When a goon tries to press him and steal it, the boys come out the woodwork and lock said goon up. The criminal is getting what he deserves. But picture a random dude waiting in the barbershop for his turn. Someone walks in and said yo I got those ipads for cheap. He bites and is in cuffs before he can even reach his wallet. The worse part is that since Ipads are valued at over $400, the person is now a FELON and cant vote, if his job is anything of importance he will probably get fired, will never have a government job, will not qualify for government programs, etc. The cops go into said location, tell them that they stole some ipads/iphones and ask if they want to buy them. Person hands them cash and then they are arrested. They could have said no.
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nbirn2103		#9	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1750 12/17/11 5:14 PM	Police need to not be creating crime by instigating innocents into purchasing fraudulent stolen goods! It is just a giant money grab for them and means to create revenue. Stop some real perpetrators and instead preying on citizens please! TEAM VOLCANO CLICK FOR YOUR NORTH FACE HOOK-UP!
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yngSIMBA.sneakershoebox		#10	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 610 12/17/11 5:25 PM	OkayKK wrote: blackngold1z wrote: The cops go into said location, tell them that they stole some ipads/iphones and ask if they want to buy them. Person hands them cash and then they are arrested. They could have said no. Ya, I would most likely say no to anyone selling something, but If you had a chance of buying a real, working iPad for 200$, most people would grab it. This is not what cops are supposed to be doing.. Unless they were selling it to known big sellers, then maybe, but not to Average Joe American who knows a deal when he sees one. But then again, who trusts someone who just walks in selling, should of at least had a trustworthy reference..
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Nktran001		#11	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 11290 12/17/11 5:36 PM	@_ImCaillou "Sippin' on this juice box"
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Yeah		#12	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 46 12/17/11 5:42 PM	OkayKK wrote: blackngold1z wrote: I mean dont get me wrong. I really like the second half of the sting. Put some frail dude in the train station with an ipad2. When a goon tries to press him and steal it, the boys come out the woodwork and lock said goon up. The criminal is getting what he deserves. But picture a random dude waiting in the barbershop for his turn. Someone walks in and said yo I got those ipads for cheap. He bites and is in cuffs before he can even reach his wallet. The worse part is that since Ipads are valued at over $400, the person is now a FELON and cant vote, if his job is anything of importance he will probably get fired, will never have a government job, will not qualify for government programs, etc. The cops go into said location, tell them that they stole some ipads/iphones and ask if they want to buy them. Person hands them cash and then they are arrested. They could have said no. Have you ever used eBay? Or Craigslist? Chances are that you've bought something that has been stolen, or was stolen at some time. Is it cool to knowingly buy stuff like that? No, but at the same time if it's already been stolen then as an average consumer you can't really do anything to help the person who got stolen from. Instead of trying to stop drug dealers, or making more efforts to put even more police on trains to look out for theft, they entrap some poor folks by offering extremely low prices for some higher end stuff? They know exactly what they were doing. The location and the people they targeted were not a coincidence. In the time that they did that part of the operation they could have deployed more police officers in areas with high amounts of prostitution, drug trafficking, investigating the NUMEROUS violations within their own office, etc. Instead, they lock up some people who wanted to get a good deal on some goods that probably don't have the money to buy it retail. This country really makes me sick sometimes. 011101000110010101100001011011010010000001100111011001010110010101101011
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NeptuneBeats187		#13	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6167 12/17/11 5:46 PM	I feel like more people need to be aware of this, especially during this time of the year. I can see the dad who really doesn't make as much, able to cop is son or daughter an iPad for the low, and get locked up/ arrested. Not saying it's right, but there should be some or rule or law that the seller HAS to state that the goods ARE stolen. If it was me that got arrested, and they never stated as being "stolen" --I'd try to make a case as in the dealer could have received some extra as a gift that he didn't need, and were trying to get rid of them Probably wouldn't work... But I can't go out like that - If I am anywhere, it'll be off the ground, in the air; squint eyes, see me there, shine equal blind, Solar Flare - ..: \|\| Matic Touch \|\|:.. Evolve Your Mind
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The Natural Mystic		#14	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2769 12/17/11 5:50 PM	@!@* the cops man. Instead of trying to stop the people who stole them, they arrest the people who buy them? Disgusting! They are just trying to reach their end of the year quota. cot damn pigs. Makes me want to spit out a loogie. Build your penitentiary, we build your schools, Brainwash education to make us the fools. Hatred is your reward for our love, Telling us of your God above. We gonna chase dem crazy baldheads out of town
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OkayKK		#15	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 292 12/17/11 5:53 PM	Yeah wrote: OkayKK wrote: blackngold1z wrote: I mean dont get me wrong. I really like the second half of the sting. Put some frail dude in the train station with an ipad2. When a goon tries to press him and steal it, the boys come out the woodwork and lock said goon up. The criminal is getting what he deserves. But picture a random dude waiting in the barbershop for his turn. Someone walks in and said yo I got those ipads for cheap. He bites and is in cuffs before he can even reach his wallet. The worse part is that since Ipads are valued at over $400, the person is now a FELON and cant vote, if his job is anything of importance he will probably get fired, will never have a government job, will not qualify for government programs, etc. The cops go into said location, tell them that they stole some ipads/iphones and ask if they want to buy them. Person hands them cash and then they are arrested. They could have said no. Have you ever used eBay? Or Craigslist? Chances are that you've bought something that has been stolen, or was stolen at some time. Is it cool to knowingly buy stuff like that? No, but at the same time if it's already been stolen then as an average consumer you can't really do anything to help the person who got stolen from. Instead of trying to stop drug dealers, or making more efforts to put even more police on trains to look out for theft, they entrap some poor folks by offering extremely low prices for some higher end stuff? They know exactly what they were doing. The location and the people they targeted were not a coincidence. In the time that they did that part of the operation they could have deployed more police officers in areas with high amounts of prostitution, drug trafficking, investigating the NUMEROUS violations within their own office, etc. Instead, they lock up some people who wanted to get a good deal on some goods that probably don't have the money to buy it retail. This country really makes me sick sometimes. Yes, you take the chance of buying a stolen item when shopping on ebay, classifieds, craigslist, etc. but these guys knew for sure the items were stolen. Yes, it is money best spent elsewhere but like I said before; this is probably a response to the theft of expensive tech items. I doubt they had a bunch of cops going around like this; these are most likely detectives who were assigned to the case so their presence on the streets wouldn't make much of a difference since they only work specific details anyways. However, I do think this is better than bait cars or setting people up to rob cops carrying such items because it eliminates places for thieves to fence their stolen goods versus throwing the same old criminals back in jail for repeated offenses.
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Pushak513		#16	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1000 12/17/11 5:56 PM	NeptuneBeats187 wrote: I feel like more people need to be aware of this, especially during this time of the year. I can see the dad who really doesn't make as much, able to cop is son or daughter an iPad for the low, and get locked up/ arrested. Not saying it's right, but there should be some or rule or law that the seller HAS to state that the goods ARE stolen. If it was me that got arrested, and they never stated as being "stolen" --I'd try to make a case as in the dealer could have received some extra as a gift that he didn't need, and were trying to get rid of them Probably wouldn't work... But I can't go out like that Thats how none of these cases en up getting thrown out that there entrapment..they did this awhile back around here not with Ipads though..the UC clearly states he stole them or they are stolen and he is selling stolen stuff..if you go ahead and say ok I'll take it thats your own fault. I know a few people who do this kind of thing and not once have they ever came right out and told me it was stolen..They know how they got 15 Iphones and you do to but its not talked about..If you can't tell its a cop when he says I STOLE THESE you shouldnt be messin around like that anyways
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kiendienn		#17	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 773 12/17/11 5:59 PM	The Natural Mystic wrote: @!@* the cops man. Instead of trying to stop the people who stole them, they arrest the people who buy them? Disgusting! They are just trying to reach their end of the year quota. cot damn pigs. Makes me want to spit out a loogie. if the crooks have less quick outlets to get rid of their stolen goods, they're less inclined to steal. nobody wants to be sitting on stolen items they themselves stole for too long. it retards the perpetuating cycle, so in a sense it is effective. and a criminal is a criminal whether he's the actual offender or an accomplice, so i'm all for stopping any sort of crime, regardless. btw, your "@(#%* the cops" statement makes anything you say after irrelevant. grow up, child.
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yngSIMBA.sneakershoebox		#18	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 612 12/17/11 6:15 PM	kiendienn wrote: The Natural Mystic wrote: @!@* the cops man. Instead of trying to stop the people who stole them, they arrest the people who buy them? Disgusting! They are just trying to reach their end of the year quota. cot damn pigs. Makes me want to spit out a loogie. if the crooks have less quick outlets to get rid of their stolen goods, they're less inclined to steal. nobody wants to be sitting on stolen items they themselves stole for too long. it retards the perpetuating cycle, so in a sense it is effective. and a criminal is a criminal whether he's the actual offender or an accomplice, so i'm all for stopping any sort of crime, regardless. btw, your "@(#%* the cops" statement makes anything you say after irrelevant. grow up, child. Are you a cop or something, how are can you support this? They don't want to catch the actual criminals.. Ya, buying stolen goods is illegal, but if someone came up to you, say they worked at Apple or BestBuy, and they grabbed a few from the stockroom or wherever, who's getting hurt here?? Not saying I support it, but c'mon. Sure, if they're knocking people for there stuff then selling, and these people bought it oh well, but thats besides the point. This is just a waste of money, if the cops hadn't of gone in there, no laws would have been broken simple as that. I'm rambling, but my point is.. As a country, we need to focus on some real problems, not someone buying a hot iPhone at the barber shop
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yngSIMBA.sneakershoebox		#19	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 613 12/17/11 6:17 PM	NeptuneBeats187 wrote: I feel like more people need to be aware of this, especially during this time of the year. I can see the dad who really doesn't make as much, able to cop is son or daughter an iPad for the low, and get locked up/ arrested. This. exactly what I thought of when reading it.
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polorico		#20	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 814 12/17/11 6:48 PM	how can they prove its hot though ? you can just say you bought it from your mans or what ever.
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