2007 - Whole Lot Of @#%$ Has Changed.

Discussion in 'Jordan Brand Archive' started by babyjordan0312, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. degenerate423

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    I've not been one to flame but you know what Gentry, @#%$ YOU!
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  2. redsoxmike2000

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    oh, and just a comparison

    Gentry = Nero
    JB = Rome
    Money = Flute
     
  3. nightruans

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    this thread is going to be huge and is gonna cause so much controversy.....

    here is my 2 cents....

    JB has oversaturated the market with retro and team jumpman shoes. These terrible colorways are being made and marked as limited making the public feel that the shoe is "exclusive" and will stop at nothing to purchase them. We are all puppets to JBs game and the greed has run them downhill. The crazy colorways started in late 2005 and continue to flow till this day. There is no way that JB will succeed if they keep BSing us with all these useless colorways and retros. It is killing classic shoes and making the shoes less popular because we keep seeing the same shoes over and over. They cant keep it up forever and IMO retros should be done only a few times a year. JB is milking what we value so much and not caring about the consumer just the paycheck at the end of the day. So until they get the plan right this business is going to be ran to the wall.
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  4. betolz

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    PLOT

    Listen to these words of wisdom. Open the youtube link and quickly minimize the window.

    When you hear the words spoken, translate them with the word key. This is how I feel.

    WORD REPLACEMENT KEY:

    JEDI KNIGHTS: JB

    OLD REPUBLIC: 1985+

    DARK TIMES: 2007+

    EMPIRE: NEW JB

    VADER: GENTRY

    DARK SIDE: $


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  5. Methodical Management

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  6. Truth

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    @#%$ Gentry!!! >: [​IMG] >: [​IMG] >: [​IMG] :smh: [​IMG] :smh: [​IMG] :smh: [​IMG]
     
  7. madcapa

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    i'd like to see them forget the slightest notion of producing retros for at least another 10 years.

    i feel the focus should be shifted to the present and future, and the qualtiy that JB is supposed to stand for.

    i have no clue as to what goes on behind closed doors, but from where i stand it seems a whole lot of time and energy is wasted on retros when it could be spent on new technology and style for future NEW releases.

    i'm most definitely Pro for the emergence of more Team Models, especially signature style lines (ie melo) for Ray, Rip and whoever else on the team is ripping it that year.

    quit flogging the dead horse JB, look to the future.
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  8. josephskc

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    Thanks for the info Baby J always appreciated.

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  9. carlofromdapi

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    Looks like I'll be saving more money in the future.... :smokin [​IMG]
     
  10. runningfishy

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    A faithful reproduction brings loud repercussions. That's all they really need.
    Also, I will not buy these stupid BS team jordan or these ugly carmelo shoes. 21s were ugly ....

    I buy retros becaus ei never had chance to get them b4, now i do, all i wish is for something similar. retro plus colors are okay but some are sh8t. just keep it real..
     
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  13. dunk supreme

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    Thanks for the info Baby J

    Gentry has no one to blame but himself. Its really a shame to see such a great company go out in this fashion, but no one can really feel too sorry for the man. Turning the Air Jordan into a retro driven line, alienating, and ignoring veterans and loyal customers, altering shoes to the point that what JB is offering is much worse than what variants are producing, off-the wall colors, unjustified price increases while offering a poorer product, greed, I can go on and on. The fact is he blew it. Its blatantly obvious that the line has lost its luster


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  14. demonbasketball04

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    Time to start shifting the focus to buying myself Nike, Adidas or And 1 basketball shoes....

    At least we still got the 'memories'....
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  15. girlindajays

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    wow....this could be a bad thing.
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  16. southpacificrock

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    No XI's?

    @#%$
     
  17. outkast2

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    JB is currently experiencing its greatests profits and revenues ever. That is a fact.

    The toughest part of running a business though is sustainability. Gentry and the rest of te JB team can clearly see that the retro craze which has been helping them soar to these current hights will not last forever.

    I have to commend them for realizing it this early, as there are many companies that don't recognize that they have to plan for their future until their future is their present and their numbers have already started to decline.

    While I think a greater focus on the team line is important, I also believe that stepping away from the yearly Air Jordan Signature Shoe would be a huge mistake. Each February, whether we love them or hate them, we look forward to the release of the highest-end basketball shoe. Even if just to try it on, and question its price, we all have an opinion about it. The XXI was loved and hated by many, but that is the point. It is stll relevant. As a person who has worked in retail for many years, I know how important it is for a Brand to have a staple, showcase, product. To step away from that would be a huge mistake in my eyes.


    I wish JB the best, as they have definetly provided me with a great deal of fun through out my life, as it has now been 17 years since I wore my first Ar Jordan. I just hope that the Air Jordan Signature line continues. I, for one, am very intrigued by the idea of rocking the Air Jordan XXX.

    -Kast


    PS. This fire Gentry thing HAS gotten old. Sadly, the people who keep saying it don't understand how foolish it makes them look.
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  18. darthska

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    Alright, here's my take:

    Blame Gentry, but in the end ... how reasonable is it to think that a brand can survive that long without it's 'main guy' playing anymore?

    I honestly thought it would be the end of the Jordan line when he retired from the Bulls. I thought that the line would continue to maybe a XVI ... MAYBE a XVII ... but that there would definitely NOT be an XVIII. That's what I thought the first time he 'definitely' retired 'for good'. But then he came back ... and he wore his shoes again all the way up to the XVIIIs (in game) and then we saw a few pics of him in the XIX's. Now, here we are a few Jordans after he's DEFINITELY 'definitely' done ... and it looks like the end again.

    Yeah, Gentry screwed up a lot of things, but some of you guys majoring in marketing and business and what not ... answer this:

    Is it really reasonable to expect that a line can continue to be successful after the main guy has called it quits?

    Could the Nike JORDAN line be reasonably expected to succeed after JORDAN is no longer playing? Could the Nike LEBRON line be reasonably expected to succeed after LEBRON is no longer playing? Could the Reebok IVERSON line be reasonably expected to succeed after IVERSON is no longer playing?

    Second ... is it possible that Nike is saying "Out with the old; in with the new"?

    "Out with Jordans; in with LeBrons."

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  19. jacksonvillenc

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    If Air Force ones can last then Jordans will last without Jordan.
     
  20. darthska

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  21. mheftman

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    All I care about is that the Grapes are def. comming out.

    They can do whatever the hell they want to the brand, as long as I get what Ive been waiting for for 15 years.
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  22. itsjusme51

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    wow...

    to a point, all these retro releases are getting a bit out of hand. but why end it all? why release all yellow iv's and scrap the xi's? what? and if the aqua viii's and the carmine vi's dont come out next year all hell is gonna break loose....
     
  23. Methodical Management

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  24. whywesteppin

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    baby j, thanks for the post.

     
  25. cameron nelson

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    This is @#%$. Complete @#%$. No XI's? Team line is "the future"? Get the @#%$ outta here.
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