2018 NFL Thread: Steelers get some good JuJu & survive FitzMagic

Discussion in 'Sports & Training' started by nickmaz96, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. buc em

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    Do I think Kaep right now at this very moment could have had the game Fitzpatrick just had last weekend? No, I do not.

    There’s not a “handful of others” if we’re talking starters either. There’s the Bills QB’s, Bortles and Dak basically.

    People also need to stop cherry picking with the stats with Kaep. I had him in fantasy the last year he played. Dude would not do a damn thing all game and then once the Niners were down big and going against prevent defenses he’d go full garbage time Bortles mode.
     
  2. casper90403

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    first, I'll start and say I'd like Kap as our back up because, well, Sean Mannion is hot garbage.

    However, you guys also forget back up's are in a way a second set of eyes for the starting QB. Its why guys like Chase Daniels gets signed for stupid money. His former QB's say he's fantastic and very helpful in getting them ready during the week and in game. Its like another coach.

    Can Kap do that? He kind of succeeded because he was athletic and can make a bad play into a good play, and vice versa. And throw in the fact that you have to have a certain play book to fit him in if it ever came down to it. But there are teams that should be able to transition to him. Its not like they don't simplify the playbook when their back up comes in. He could work on a team that has a very good running game, if you're worried about him not picking up the playbook.

    He's better than most back ups and should be on a roster, but i understand why teams don't want so much attention paid to a back up.
     
  3. junglejim

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    This is disingenuous as hell. The last year he played, he may have been on one of the least talented teams in the league due to a lot of players leaving in free agency and retiring immediately after Harbaugh got fired. Chip Kelly, jim tomsula, and trent Balkee ran that team into the ground with terrible coaching and had some God awful drafts. Outside of deforest buckner and trent brown they barely drafted any starters in like three years. Not to mention chip Kelley inexplicably tried to make Blaine gabbert a thing because kaep didnt fit his system. Even after Chip finally benched Blaine, you could tell a night and day difference between him and Kaep. Kaep was definitely the better QB, chip was just a God damn idiot and should have never been coach in the first place.

    There was a reason the 49ers had the youngest roster in the NFL last year. It wasnt because they wanted to. It's because they had a historically bad defense the season before with extremely little talent outside of deforest buckner. You cant blame kaep for playing from behind in garbage time when they had the worst rushing defense in over 2 decades.

    Also, please stop using fantasy football to argue real life football. Being good or bad in fantasy does not = being good or bad in real life.
     
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  4. macbk

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    The sooner you all realize Kaep is done with football, the better off you'll be.
     
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  5. rolaholic

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    No one's been disputing that,you'd have to be delusional to think the league would let him back in after everything that's gone down and how they've alligned themselves on the other side of a culture war

    The discussion's been about whether or not he'd even be good enough to play again which he absolutely would be imo...
     
  6. nickmaz96

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  7. casper90403

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    That first team that says F it, lets sign him, will get so much love. But yeah, not very likely.
     
  8. nickmaz96

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    Based on what? I hate to say it but a team that signs him immediately alienates a good portion of their fan base.
     
  9. junglejim

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    I thought all those people stopped watching football and burned their nikes?
     
  10. casper90403

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    and at the same time, gain more fans. F those fans who would leave because they signed a capable back up.

    But i get it, its not happening and not realistic.
     
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  11. D Fly

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    I usually check BleedingGreenNation for that, who usually reports it a few hours before gametime.
     
  12. macbk

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  13. buc em

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    This wasn’t “using fantasy football”...it was just stating that I did have to pay attention to his performances his last year and actually watch a handful of those games and the stats you’d be using could also make Blake Bortles look like an amazing QB if you’d be talking about his 2015 season where he threw for like 4,500 yards, 35 TD’s and 18 INT’s. The games Kaep put up good stats that last year he was putting them all up in garbage time prevent defenses. Full Bortles mode.
     
  14. junglejim

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    Im just saying the only reason people are using those stats is because those are the only games he started that season because Chip Kelly is not a good NFL coach and the 49ers literally had the worst run defense since like 1990. Cant really fault him for that. His stats in those games really werent all that much different than his stats in previous seasons with Harbaugh.
     
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  16. junglejim

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    Am I the only one who thinks what the Steelers are going is grimy as hell? Bell basically made a total of $16M for the 5 years they have been there and they have no intention of giving him a long term contract for what he is worth. I don't blame him for sitting out. $70M means next to nothing knowing like $30M of it is guaranteed and they are just going to run him into the ground for the next three years like the cowboys did with Demarco Murray and cut bait in 2 years.

    Get your money Bell. They are just going to do the same thing to James Conner.
     
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    All ill say is if Titans had Kaep go into the game instead of blaine gabbert we would have at least had a shot to win.
     
  18. aNYone

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    I honestly don’t think he even wants to play anymore.
     
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  19. casper90403

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    completely agree.
     
  20. second2nonee

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    you can blame college and to a lesser extent, high school.

    all starts there with coaches, scheme, development, etc...
     
  21. casper90403

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    i feel like the newer crop of QB's seem more ready to start in year 1 more than ever.
     
  22. spacedoodoo

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    What made you come to this conclusion?
     
  23. youngthundercat

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    Dog it ain’t the Steelers it’s the NFL and the system thats built so shady to beat players to a pulp and pay them nothing for it. There is no excuse why the nfl contracts shouldn’t be guaranteed. And when you done with the league they done with you. Sad ****.
     
  24. Cars

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    NFL is definitely the slimiest league in all of sports. Most violent but pays like ****. Need lebron to jump into the NFLPA
     
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  25. 651akathepaul

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    The argument was still going strong this morning, I see? :lol:

    Lemme know when it dies down...I'll start up the top 10 WR's debate...