2024 Wrestling Thread | WWE Monday Night RAW

[nice jahb]

Once again it goes back to this "insider phrasing" debacle. That's not a no-sell. Whether you agree or disagree, the fact is that is selling in today's day and age. The "OMG, he's out on his feet" and "muscle memory" is selling.

Another fact wrestling fans just won't seem to accept: The Canadian Destroyer is a modern wrestler's DDT. Was a devastating finisher 20 years ago, but just another move in every wrestler's repertoire.

 

[1995]

Once again it goes back to this "insider phrasing" debacle. That's not a no-sell. Whether you agree or disagree, the fact is that is selling in today's day and age. The "OMG, he's out on his feet" and "muscle memory" is selling.

Another fact wrestling fans just won't seem to accept: The Canadian Destroyer is a modern wrestler's DDT. Was a devastating finisher 20 years ago, but just another move in every wrestler's repertoire.

I see a lot of people mixing up "bump" and "sell" too

 

[B Sox]

Can’t see Rick Starks being anything more than Carmelo. Would definitely be good addition for NXT though.

 

[King of Trash Style]

Nah that has been his nickname. TK didn't give that to him.

He doesn't deserve it in America buddy #TeamUnbiasedResurgence

 

[King of Trash Style]

Rather see Ricky stay in AEW with a new booker

 

[pmatic]

 

[B Sox]

They really did. I thought I was tripping, then remembered bozos are in the truck over there.

Tbf, a Taco Bell commercial is probably more interesting than anything Jungle Jabroni related.

 

[King of Trash Style]

I cant take Jungle juvenile serious as a badass heel

 

[T0INE]

Can’t see Rick Starks being anything more than Carmelo. Would definitely be good addition for NXT though.

Would easily flourish in NXT. Would be a way better champion than that goober Ethan Page.

Would probably a solid IC/US midcarder. Being bffs with one of the top guys in the company would help out a bit too.

 

[1995]

 

[djlunchbox]

I feel Logan Paul has so much hate that he doesn't have to do the flippy stuff. That's a choice that he makes. He already has people caring about him but when you barely wrestle you might feel like you need to do the crazy acrobatics.

Of course. Dude didn’t “earn” what he was given. Let’s be honest, he was brought in to tap the demo he reaches. No different than his bum of a brother boxing jobbers then running his mouth when he wins. It’s all for clout.

He’s jealous of Roman? What a surprise a loudmouth like him is jealous of the biggest star in the business. But he hasn’t earned the right to get even 1/5 of the praise Roman. He’d understand that if he grinded like most wrestlers have.

I’m glad he’s somewhat done. He held that title hostage for too long. I don’t buy that mentality that he gave the US Title more prestige.

 

[Cashflow]

Of course. Dude didn’t “earn” what he was given. Let’s be honest, he was brought in to tap the demo he reaches. No different than his bum of a brother boxing jobbers then running his mouth when he wins. It’s all for clout.

He’s jealous of Roman? What a surprise a loudmouth like him is jealous of the biggest star in the business. But he hasn’t earned the right to get even 1/5 of the praise Roman. He’d understand that if he grinded like most wrestlers have.

I’m glad he’s somewhat done. He held that title hostage for too long. I don’t buy that mentality that he gave the US Title more prestige.

Your reading comprehension here is very #LowShirai.

Sounds like he’s acknowledging the fans are only invested in his acrobatic spots. And he’s using Ramen as an example of someone that doesn’t have to risk his body unnecessarily to get that same level of investment from the crowd. He’s not jealous of Ramen’s spot but rather his in ring storytelling ability.

There’s a clip of him and the Deadman talking about this and the psychology of fan never being satisfied with those aerial spots.

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

 

[King of Trash Style]

Big Dutch!!! His cohost is actually good unlike Last and Conrad

 

[green rhino123]

Of course. Dude didn’t “earn” what he was given. Let’s be honest, he was brought in to tap the demo he reaches. No different than his bum of a brother boxing jobbers then running his mouth when he wins. It’s all for clout.

He’s jealous of Roman? What a surprise a loudmouth like him is jealous of the biggest star in the business. But he hasn’t earned the right to get even 1/5 of the praise Roman. He’d understand that if he grinded like most wrestlers have.

I’m glad he’s somewhat done. He held that title hostage for too long. I don’t buy that mentality that he gave the US Title more prestige.

Your reading comprehension here is very #LowShirai.

Sounds like he’s acknowledging the fans are only invested in his acrobatic spots. And he’s using Ramen as an example of someone that doesn’t have to risk his body unnecessarily to get that same level of investment from the crowd. He’s not jealous of Ramen’s spot but rather his in ring storytelling ability.

There’s a clip of him and the Deadman talking about this and the psychology of fan never being satisfied with those aerial spots.

Before Roman had to take some time off (and came back more over than before)...
he was in a bunch of matches with big dudes, taking a lot of heavy bumps. I felt like part
of it was Vince wanting Roman to pay his dues - and he did.

 

[djlunchbox]

Your reading comprehension here is very #LowShirai.

Sounds like he’s acknowledging the fans are only invested in his acrobatic spots. And he’s using Ramen as an example of someone that doesn’t have to risk his body unnecessarily to get that same level of investment from the crowd. He’s not jealous of Ramen’s spot but rather his in ring storytelling ability.

There’s a clip of him and the Deadman talking about this and the psychology of fan never being satisfied with those aerial spots.

I get that I’m saying Roman doesn’t have to do that because Roman has already established himself through YEARS of being in the business to earn him not having to do the flippy high risk stuff.

Logan can’t expect for people to like him without him giving them a reason to invest somewhat in him as a character.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I still believe Logan doesn't need to do the flippy stuff because PEOPLE ARE emotionally invested in him already. He can just look at the fan participation during his matches he would see the fans DO "acknowledge" him.

Again, that is amazing considering he hasn't even wrestled 20 matches. Take advantage of it Logan and save your body.

No Need to be jealous of Roman. Hell , people should be jealous of him since he has so much heat within such a small window of time.

 

[noblekane]

Once again it goes back to this "insider phrasing" debacle. That's not a no-sell. Whether you agree or disagree, the fact is that is selling in today's day and age. The "OMG, he's out on his feet" and "muscle memory" is selling.

Another fact wrestling fans just won't seem to accept: The Canadian Destroyer is a modern wrestler's DDT. Was a devastating finisher 20 years ago, but just another move in every wrestler's repertoire.

you get it.

but that account posted is from one of many wwe cultist that live to hate watch aew

they better hold on to their butts because wwe is headed that way with triple k's direction.

its just the business evolving.

 

[noblekane]

Rather see Ricky stay in AEW with a new booker

too bad that will never happen. tony con got a big head with the booker of the year bull ****

 

[noblekane]

how many do you own?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Another fact wrestling fans just won't seem to accept: The Canadian Destroyer is a modern wrestler's DDT. Was a devastating finisher 20 years ago, but just another move in every wrestler's repertoire.

I can agree that so many people have it in thier arsenal that it IS a common move in 2024.

The issue is how often , especially in AEW, the move doesn't even REGISTER. Too often is it used, defensive wrestler IMMEDIATELY gets up and continues as if nothing happened.

That is hard to watch.

The whole gentrified version of "Fighting Spirit" (Thanks to Inoki and later bastardized by Kings Road) really kills any sort of realism that a match could be giving it's audience.

Just not acknowledging that a move took place jn a battle is just nonsense no matter where it happens.

 

[degenerate423]

If you notice, I never question the scouting abilities of Big Rhinos.

green rhino123

 

[c flyness]

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[1995]

how many do you own?

None

 

[D Fly]

Hello NTWT except that poor man's James Ellsworth djlunchbox