A few 'FYI' things about Nike and Nike products.........

Discussion in 'Nike' started by menoforegon, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    Just a few 'FYI' things(take it however you want) that are good to know or have been asked a few times.

    Our designers, engineers, scientists, testers, EKINS, etc. don't like the use of the word "bubble" to describe our Air Units. It is not a"bubble". A bubble is what you blow from chewing gum. It is called an Air Unit. With respect to their college degrees in various sciences, hard work,and countless hours of research, we prefer to use the proper name when referring to our Air Units.(Encapsulated Air, Visible Air, Tuned Air, Max Air,Tube Air, Blow Molded Air, Zoom Air) Thanks!

    Caged Zoom Air is thicker than Zoom Air - it's 13 millimeters to be exact - and wider than a regular Zoom Air unit. Foundin a "heel only" configuration. Debuted in 2003.

    There are three main types of cross training shoes: Sport Training, Fitness Training, and Life.

    Nike Pro is a category of performance athletic apparel that uses Nike apparel technologies, not a technology itself. There are three kinds ofNike Pro garments: Nike Pro Tight, Nike Pro Vent, and Nike Pro Thermal.

    Nike eyewear, or Nike Vision, falls into three basic groups: Performance, Active, andPrescription or Rx.

    Nike Timing
    products are divided into three categories as well: Performance, Active, and Monitoring.

    If the name does not have 'AIR' in it, it doesn't have any Air cushioning in the midsole whatsoever. Some people are confusedabout that.

    If you've ever wondered what the 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, and 7.0 stand for in the Nike FREE, here's the explanation. If beingbarefoot is a 0, and wearing shoes is a 10, the number corresponds to where the shoe stands on that scale. Obviously the lower numbers are closer to a"barefoot feeling".

    There have been more questions asked, but these are the only ones that I can remember at this time. Sorry.
     
  2. clkru

    clkru

    1,591
    10
    Joined
    Apr 11, 2005
    Thanks!

    What happened to Tuned Air? I had some bball shoes that utilized that tech back in '99 and loved them.
     
  3. jbv1

    jbv1

    1,129
    31
    Joined
    Sep 14, 2001
    Thanks Men Of Oegon - MODS when the time comes we need to glossary this or at least archive.

    My question is - how does Nike determine how or which shoe to retro & why the [email protected] colour selection recently?

    Most people on this site (or in general of age to remember them) want the retros to come back in the OG colourway

    Specifically for myself (& maybe WallyHopp, INDECS, etc) the Air Trainer SC orange/white/blue & any of the Air Trainer IIs? Hope you can answer &thanks in advance.
     
  4. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    I believe Tuned Air was abandoned due to the complexity of sizing and "tuning" the mechanical elements(half spheres found in the Air unit on themedial side). Someone correct me if I'm wrong? Chime on in if anyone can shed more light on the matter.

    Other than a brief retroing of the running model, the technology is considered obsolete.
     
  5. airjordan jb23

    airjordan jb23

    26,924
    381
    Joined
    Nov 2, 2005
    Good info.
     
  6. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    The Air Zoom Miler and the Zoom LeBron II have it. Also, there's a baseball cleat that has it as well. Ahh, the name escapes me right now!
     
  7. foot soulja3

    foot soulja3

    4
    10
    Joined
    Aug 12, 2002
    air zoom 5-tool
     
  8. krisp kicks

    krisp kicks

    742
    10
    Joined
    Apr 12, 2007
    jbv: I believe one reason the OG colourway of a shoe is rarely retro'd is it would be difficult to discern between the actual OG shoe, and the Retro. Thiswould create a bit of a conflict because it seems to me that Nike is one of the few company's that tries to keep in mind the wishes of the die hard, corecustomers when possible. I know if I had a rare pare of DS sneakers, and then the same exact model/colourway was re-released I would be less than thrilled. Iagree alot of the retro colourways on older model sneakers like the AM 90, or AM 1 are less than thrilling, especially the general release ones. But it kind ofmaintains a bit of "purity" of the actual OG shoes.
     
  9. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    Yes! Thank you.

    5 - Tool is one of the baseball cleated footwear silos(category). Cleats in this silo are designed to provide support and comfort. 5 -Tool refers to a player's ability to 1. Get hits at key points in the game (hitting for average), 2. Hit big home runs (hitting for power), 3.Steal bases successfully (running speed), 4. Throw out players at the plate (arm strength), and 5. Make amazing defensive plays (fielding ability).
     
  10. wallyhopp

    wallyhopp

    10,666
    1,412
    Joined
    Sep 29, 2004
    Can you expand on that? Im a big fan of basic cross training shoes. shoes that can be worn for every gym activity. not this new trend that Under Armourbrought out where they have speed, power, and agility based shoes. So now when I go to the gym, I have to take 3 pairs to cover everything. they arent reallycross training in the truest sense. much like nike's newest sparq trainers. they arent really gym cross training all purpose shoes but more about speed anddrill training shoes for a specific sport. It seems to be such a different concept from where it orginiated. maybe some shoe model exmaples in each of thesport training, fitness training, and life would clear up my confusion. i mean, i can still wear my 2000 nike air trainer 1 high retros at the gym and competein every activity. nike seems to be going backwards diverting an all purpose shoe into individualized performance shoes.
     
  11. aelione ingersol

    aelione ingersol

    15
    11
    Joined
    Jul 27, 2005
    why did nike turn new shox into bubbles? now there are too many bubbles.
     
  12. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
     
  13. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    The Nike SHOX Experience+ is a combination of all three cushioning systems, SHOX, Air Max, and Zoom. It's designed to give your feet a very plushedride when running. The SHOX are not turned into "bubbles". Please refer to my original post about "bubbles".
     
  14. kobe fan

    kobe fan

    415
    10
    Joined
    Jun 3, 2002
    I always hated my Air bubble popping when i was a kid.
     
  15. justforshoes

    justforshoes

    33
    10
    Joined
    Sep 11, 2004
    This is a very good post...thank you MenofOregon
     
  16. justforshoes

    justforshoes

    33
    10
    Joined
    Sep 11, 2004
    what is the difference between Air Max and Zoom Air, if any?
     
  17. darthska

    darthska Administrator

    29,463
    6,180
    Joined
    May 1, 2004
    I would like for no one to ever use the term 'bred' to talk about a black/red shoe. Please only use 'black/red' from now on.

    Does that mean it's going to happen? Even if I ask nicely, will it happen?

    Absolutely not.

    While I appreciate the knowledge you've shared on the different technologies, I hope you realize that it won't stop people from using the term'bubble'.
     
  18. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    Max Air technology is a form of Nike Air cushioning that contains maximum air volume for maximum impact protection. ALWAYS visible in the midsole. Canbe shaped into multiple chambers, heights, and pressures. Debuted in 1987.

    Zoom Air cushioning is a flat, thin unit that provides low-profile, super responsive cushioning for quick movement. If you look closely inside there is astretched, tensile fabric within the bladder. Debuted in 1996.
     
  19. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    Although I do understand your thoughts, I'd like to add that the name 'bred' was given as a nickname by "shoeheads". I cannotstand the nickname 'bred'. It is NOT a color that's written in a catalog or shoebox.

    We, however, did NOT ever give a nickname for our Air cushioning units at any point in time. It was always named an Air-Sole unit since it wasintroduced to us by former NASA engineer Frank Rudy. I don't think someone with that level of education would ever call it a "bubble" andintroduce it to Mr. Knight as such.

    You'd be looked at very oddly, and quite possibly corrected, if you said that to a Campus employee. It's simply not a choice. The correct terminologyis Air-Sole unit, Air cushioning unit, or Air Unit.
     
  20. wallyhopp

    wallyhopp

    10,666
    1,412
    Joined
    Sep 29, 2004
    MenofOregon, thanks. that helped clarifying my confusion. I love my mid cut trainers so im awfully glad the zoom tennis trainer retros are coming out again.time to horde and stockpile knowing the direction nike has taken in trainers.

    thanks
     
  21. briannnnn

    briannnnn

    7,715
    25
    Joined
    Jul 3, 2006
    MenOfOregon: what is that fabric inside the Zoom Air units made of?
     
  22. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    The fabric is made up of thin, tensile nylon fibers that are stretched out. Once it's surrounded by Air pressure it makes sort of a "trampolineeffect".
     
  23. darthska

    darthska Administrator

    29,463
    6,180
    Joined
    May 1, 2004
     
  24. menoforegon

    menoforegon

    234
    11
    Joined
    Nov 26, 2007
    Agreed.
     
  25. cycopth

    cycopth

    483
    10
    Joined
    Nov 23, 2007
    ya but the fact that it could pop at one time, it's been called a bubble.