All 160 assistant principals laid off in Philadelphia School District; Thousands of layoffs to follo

[oidreez]

i dont think the numbers are what's important in his statement people. relax

 

[jjs07]

Most HS teachers hit 6 figures after like 8 years of teaching at a school, you can look up your schools salaries for teachers online... Public school isn't bad either, I went to one with 4000 other kids and 99% of class ended up at four year schools... Education didn't lose its purpose, the people lost the purpose of being educated

Not saying you live there, but going to a public high school in Greenwich, CT is VASTLY different than attending a public high school in Philly.

There's a reason why your graduating class had 99% of the kids attend 4-year schools compared to a school district dealing with budget cuts and laid off employees.

 

[doubled productions]

Most HS teachers hit 6 figures after like 8 years of teaching at a school, you can look up your schools salaries for teachers online... Public school isn't bad either, I went to one with 4000 other kids and 99% of class ended up at four year schools... Education didn't lose its purpose, the people lost the purpose of being educated

I'll just address the salary numbers because the rest of your statement screams privilege.

"At the moment, the average teacher’s pay is on par with that of a toll taker or bartender. Teachers make 14 percent less than professionals in other occupations that require similar levels of education. In real terms, teachers’ salaries have declined for 30 years. The average starting salary is $39,000; the average ending salary — after 25 years in the profession — is $67,000. This prices teachers out of home ownership in 32 metropolitan areas, and makes raising a family on one salary near impossible."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/opinion/01eggers.html?_r=0

 

[sreggie101]

A DJ could make $175 million in a year but the max a teacher could make is around lets say 300k. Think about that. This society needs to reprioritize itself. Education lost its meaning.

/thread.

why education isn't the biggest part of the federal, let alone local, budget is probably the biggest reason this country is garbage. and we as a country, are richer now than we were 50 yrs ago.


youtube vice x sofex and look at where this country's priorities lie. i could go on, but you only need to look at the world in front of you with unbiased eyes and see how american politics allocates this country's money to fund ******** political agendas instead of tackling the real social and economic issues that can be easily addressed, but are simply ignored.



1.7 mile asteroid passed by earth last week. that is big enough to wipe out bacteria. we also cut funding for NASA.


and all i keep hearing is women's rights, benghazi, and w.e bs is talked about nowadays.



civil engineers associations for years have rated our infrastructure as :x and yet, there isn't strong political motivation to greatly fund a capital program to upgrade..

i could go on, but you see where im going. kind of went off on tangent watever.


IB4 ninjahood.

 

[i lax bro]

I'll just address the salary numbers because the rest of your statement screams privilege.

"At the moment, the average teacher’s pay is on par with that of a toll taker or bartender. Teachers make 14 percent less than professionals in other occupations that require similar levels of education. In real terms, teachers’ salaries have declined for 30 years. The average starting salary is $39,000; the average ending salary — after 25 years in the profession — is $67,000. This prices teachers out of home ownership in 32 metropolitan areas, and makes raising a family on one salary near impossible."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/opinion/01eggers.html?_r=0

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/dompierre.356/new_trier_high_school__il_ - Just one source that lists it pretty close to six figures, adjust that figure from 2006 for inflation and im pretty sure its right near 100,000

 

[mcraptor]

Bout to get this online education monopoly started

 

[illwill8710]

NT, home of the fake numbers facts

QFT

Everybody knew that they were getting laid off months ago (some over a year ago). The Philadelphia school district has been going through a restructuring and downsizing for some time now. Some public schools are turning into charter school and some are being closed entirely. I hate to say it but it has been effective for quite a few schools in the area in the past. We shall see how it goes.

 

[mcraptor]

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/dompierre.356/new_trier_high_school__il_ - Just one source that lists it pretty close to six figures, adjust that figure from 2006 for inflation and im pretty sure its right near 100,000

Are you really using this sample?

"New Trier Township is a suburb north of Chicago. The township has just over 55,000 residents, 92.1% of whom are white. The median income for a New Trier family is $144,976 and just 1.2% of the population is below the poverty line."

Of course the rich neighbourhoods can afford to pay the teachers way above average salary

 

[doubled productions]

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/dompierre.356/new_trier_high_school__il_ - Just one source that lists it pretty close to six figures, adjust that figure from 2006 for inflation and im pretty sure its right near 100,000

Did you even read the webpage you sited?

"Unsurprisingly, New Trier compares very well to other Illinois schools. The average New Trier teacher makes $84,151, compared to $55,558 for the rest of the state. New Trier administrators make an average of $141,367, well above the state average of $97,051 ("New Trier Salaries," 2006). Ninety-two percent of New Trier's funding comes from local property taxes, whereas the state average is 57%. New Trier has a huge advantage being surrounded by an area with such high socioeconomic status. Illinois schools spend an average of $8,786 per student, while New Trier spends almost double that at $15,403"

We're talking about averages, not taking one school in a rich area as the norm.

 

[dmbrhs]

Not saying you live there, but going to a public high school in Greenwich, CT is VASTLY different than attending a public high school in Philly.

There's a reason why your graduating class had 99% of the kids attend 4-year schools compared to a school district dealing with budget cuts and laid off employees.

Good parenting probably had nothing to do with it, either, right?

 

[nawghtyhare]

im no conspiracy theorist but maybe thats part of the plan. dumb down the kids by limiting the amount of educators and not having enough "learning tools" for everyone except a "select few"

 

[nawghtyhare]

Not saying you live there, but going to a public high school in Greenwich, CT is VASTLY different than attending a public high school in Philly.

There's a reason why your graduating class had 99% of the kids attend 4-year schools compared to a school district dealing with budget cuts and laid off employees.

Good parenting probably had nothing to do with it, either, right?

i know people who had good parents and still **** up in life while i know people who didnt have anybody in their life succeed. Yes i think a positive person in ur life is important but its also about how much you value yourself and how much you want to accomplish in life and how you apply yourself in what u want to be/do in life

 

[jjs07]

Good parenting probably had nothing to do with it, either, right?

Support from a parent or parents helps a situation...but many of these kids in inner-city schools are lost causes for a number of reasons.

I would recommend a doc I saw a while back on HBO called "Hard Times at Douglass High." It profiles a HS in inner-city Baltimore.

One teacher they profiled was new to the job. He had a lot of energy and was genuinely excited about the opportunity to teach. At back to school night, he had something like 3 parents show up out of his class of 30. Long story short, as the documentary went on, dude became more worn down and beaten down as the year progressed. As a matter of fact, he ended up quitting 3/4 through because he couldn't take it any more. He had no support from the administration, parents, and the kids were out of control.

In certain situations, teachers are set up to fail and because of this a lot of the kids are suffering due their respective school districts infrastructure. It's a really bad situation that needs fixing desperately.

 

[dmbrhs]

Support from a parent or parents helps a situation...but many of these kids in inner-city schools are lost causes for a number of reasons.

I would recommend a doc I saw a while back on HBO called "Hard Times at Douglass High." It profiles a HS in inner-city Baltimore.

One teacher they profiled was new to the job. He had a lot of energy and was genuinely excited about the opportunity to teach. At back to school night, he had something like 3 parents show up out of his class of 30. Long story short, as the documentary went on, dude became more worn down and beaten down as the year progressed. As a matter of fact, he ended up quitting 3/4 through because he couldn't take it any more. He had no support from the administration, parents, and the kids were out of control.

In certain situations, teachers are set up to fail and because of this a lot of the kids are suffering due their respective school districts infrastructure. It's a really bad situation that needs fixing desperately.

I saw that doc. Three parents showing up is the root of the problem. No school (or "system) can overcome the problems in a community where only three parents bother to show up to a parent-teacher orientation night. It's pretty damn simple. But let's just keep blaming the schools. Why? Because it's convenient. Nobody wants to admit they're a bad parent, or tell someone they're a bad parent. In that classroom, there were three good parents, and 27 terrible parents.

 

[rrlegend]

300k? damn wheres that school.

MOST teachers are at about 40-50k. tops.

man teachers in louisiana make 24k a year in 2013. my last year of highschool i was making more than my all the falculty outside the principal. 

 

[captnaj phd]

I've always thought teachers should be paid like doctors and lawyers...they're every bit as important, in some cases they save lives years before they need saving.

It's just sad to see how little our government values education. Hell, they're building a $400 million dollar jail here (PA) as I type this sentence...schools aren't that great a short-term investment tho.

 

[HankHill]

Support from a parent or parents helps a situation...but many of these kids in inner-city schools are lost causes for a number of reasons.

I would recommend a doc I saw a while back on HBO called "Hard Times at Douglass High." It profiles a HS in inner-city Baltimore.

One teacher they profiled was new to the job. He had a lot of energy and was genuinely excited about the opportunity to teach. At back to school night, he had something like 3 parents show up out of his class of 30. Long story short, as the documentary went on, dude became more worn down and beaten down as the year progressed. As a matter of fact, he ended up quitting 3/4 through because he couldn't take it any more. He had no support from the administration, parents, and the kids were out of control.

In certain situations, teachers are set up to fail and because of this a lot of the kids are suffering due their respective school districts infrastructure. It's a really bad situation that needs fixing desperately.

I saw that doc. Three parents showing up is the root of the problem. No school (or "system) can overcome the problems in a community where only three parents bother to show up to a parent-teacher orientation night. It's pretty damn simple. But let's just keep blaming the schools. Why? Because it's convenient. Nobody wants to admit they're a bad parent, or tell someone they're a bad parent. In that classroom, there were three good parents, and 27 terrible parents.

The parents are a major part of the issue. A lot of kids don't care about their education because there parents don't care.

When I was young my mom would ask me if I did my homework every night, then ask to look at it. She may not have known what it was about or the answers to them, but she knew I was doing it. So if I I get a bad grade, I wasn't 'some lazy kid', I was a kid who attempted their work, but needed some extra help to do better.

Other parents don't get involved. They see school as a place to do their job for them. Granted, it may keep them off the streets and even put food in their stomachs, but that's no reason for the parents to not have interest in their child's future.

 

[nom de guerre]

Bout to get this online education monopoly started

*%#! might as well

 

[blakep267]

Im from the area, and I have no idea how the budget is being managed. I mean,the streets are horrible, schools are being closed. We just had new casinos built but yet the city is still struggling. I also blame the ******ed republican governor who was voted in somehow because he severely slashed the philadelphia school district budget

also, dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but they are building a $400 million dollar prison in Philadelphia . Cut the schools, build prisons sigh

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2013/...chools-but-build-a-400-million-dollar-prison/

 

[AZwildcats]

Most HS teachers hit 6 figures after like 8 years of teaching at a school, you can look up your schools salaries for teachers online... Public school isn't bad either, I went to one with 4000 other kids and 99% of class ended up at four year schools... Education didn't lose its purpose, the people lost the purpose of being educated

Not here in Arizona they don't. Most will never sniff 65k in their careers. Especially working in our very poor education system

 

[luckyluchiano]

LOL This is sick, pretty much if you cant send your kids to private school they are doomed unless you homeschool which the way things are the avg person cant do because they have to work a job.

 

[dmbrhs]

LOL This is sick, pretty much if you cant send your kids to private school they are doomed unless you homeschool which the way things are the avg person cant do because they have to work a job.

Then explain the disparity between public schools within the same district? They get the same resources, so it can't be all the school's fault. In fact, many schools "succeed" in spite of the system (whatever "the system" even means). Why? Because there many other factors outside of dumping money into a school that contribute to the success of a school. And it all starts with at home. Schools won't be "fixed" until families are "fixed".

 

[i lax bro]

My family, being foreign instilled education into me at a pretty young age and how important it was for you to succeed. I could've gone to the private school down the street from me and pay 15k/yr, or I could just end up at my public school, which was one of the best in my state. Anyway if you don't have a sense of education and don't indoctrinate in some sense the importance, then there never will be success in schooling. You have people coming from third world countries who are ending up at Harvard and other top schools since they didn't take it for granted

175m/yr dj only on NT

 

[mugen81]

i need to know what kind of teacher is making 300k? need to change my major asap.

I need to know what dj makes $175 million dollars

 

[dmbrhs]

I need to know what dj makes $175 million dollars

There isn't a DJ alive even worth $175 million. lol