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I also like IWW better than Illmatic, but related to the topic...yeah, this is foolish, comparing the two. The Message alone is better than anything on this album.
Career Sophmore Album Debate... Born Sinner vs It Was Written
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Serious question, why do so many people believe Cole is going to get better? When we mostly see the opposite as far as hiphop artist are concerned. The past has shown us the artist typically evens out or degrade as their career progresses.
Also please don't flame this is a legit question.
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At one point I liked it better than Illmatic, but the production on Illmatic stood the test of time better than Tone & Poke
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It Was Written > Born Sinner
However, I will say that J. Cole put out a very good debut and put out a better sophomore album. I cant say the same for Nas, as his sophomore album was not as good as his debut. Obviously Illmatic is a classic, and hard to beat, but still.
However, I will say that J. Cole put out a very good debut and put out a better sophomore album. I cant say the same for Nas, as his sophomore album was not as good as his debut. Obviously Illmatic is a classic, and hard to beat, but still.
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Where do these comparisons even come from? We're really comparing the GOAT lyricist to the guy who made Work Out? Give me a ******g break
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What you said means absolutely nothing when you put everything in context.
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I'm one of the many few who likes IWW over illmatic. One of the best well rounded albums of all time imo. I just noticed the clip at the end of Street Dreams is the news report on Black Girl Lost
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Dont know why it means nothing to you. The very first thing I wrote was IWW was superior to Born Sinner. The point of the rest of what I wrote was simply to show that J. Cole is in fact improving. Nas has been in a consistent decline since his debut (albeit a very gradual decline). Cole is getting better.
We were speaking about what is a better sophomore album. IWW clearly wins that. All I was pointing out was that J. Cole actually made a better debut album than his first, and Nas did not. Thats all. Its not a knock on Nas. Just an observation. Cole will likely never be on Nas' level, but its nice to see his music is getting better not worse.
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Black Girl Lost...one of my favorites yo
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Nas made a "decline" from what is probably the greatest album in the history of the genre. So every time he dropped he was supposed to put out the new GOAT album? That makes no sense.
And the only thing that declined about Nas from Illmatic on was his production. Illmatic was a perfect storm of classic producers in their primes that will never be duplicated again. But lyrically I don't know how you can say he fell off at all.
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^Agreed with everything you said. Nas made one of the great debut albums of all-time in the history of music. No matter what he does he will never top Illmatic. However the man has put out damn good albums throughout his career so to say he has "declined" when he is still one of the best lyricists alive is just silly.
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troll thread but....what's a better sophomore album than IWW though?
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The only thing I can think of is arguably Supreme Clientele.
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Ain't no other kings in this rap thing, they siblings...
...nuthin' but my children.
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Title didn't exist until BIG
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why even compare the two? even J.Cole will say IWW is better. He don't wanna let Nas down.
IWW > J.Cole's catalogue
IWW > J.Cole's catalogue
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Add the marshall mathers lp to superior sophomore albums
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The marshall Mathers LP is not better than IWW. 
I gave you power,shootouts, Take it blood, the message, street dreams, Live N rap >>> Anything on MMLP
I gave you power,shootouts, Take it blood, the message, street dreams, Live N rap >>> Anything on MMLP
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