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i mess with kap but he's so far removed from the game not including the fact the owners won't sign him..unless he's been seriously training for a while i dont understand why he's tryinf to come back now
Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know
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Two of literally the worst former coaches in the history of the league. NFL trolling sending those two asshats
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If you don’t know what your talking about just say you don’t know what your talking about. I’m sure Colts owner Jim Irsay VOLUNTARILY wanted to give the NFL $500K of his own money and serve a 6 game suspension.....you know since the NFL answers to him and not the other way around right champ?? Read below.
Colts' Jim Irsay suspended six games, fined $500K
The NFL levied a six-game suspension on Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay on Tuesday and fined him $500,000 for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy.
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****** went from loving Jay to hating Jay to Jay vs Kaep to praising Jay for making this happen to hating Kaep for being a primadonna.
At the end of the day we have the same information and are forming our own opinions based on that. This whole thread is speculation if we want to get into who dropped the ball here. Both parties put out conflicting press releases. It’s on you to choose who you think is lying or sensationalizing.
I’m more inclined to think that’s the NFL...but y’all can come to whatever conclusions you like.
At the end of the day we have the same information and are forming our own opinions based on that. This whole thread is speculation if we want to get into who dropped the ball here. Both parties put out conflicting press releases. It’s on you to choose who you think is lying or sensationalizing.
I’m more inclined to think that’s the NFL...but y’all can come to whatever conclusions you like.
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Opinion: With workout power move, Colin Kaepernick might have just waved goodbye to last chance at NFL job
MIKE JONES | USA TODAY | 45 minutes ago
SportsPulse: After a bizarre day that ended in a workout at a high school football field, Colin Kaepernick spoke with the media and explains that he's been 'ready' for a long time.
USA TODAY
What we witnessed on Saturday, in the latest episode of Colin Kaepernick against the world, was nothing short of tragic yet entirely avoidable.
In his long-overdue opportunity to work out for prospective employers, Kaepernick had the chance to change minds, to rewrite the narrative. He could have secured the ultimate victory over the league and owners who have blacklisted him for three years.
He had the chance to position himself to simultaneously shred both defenses and racist ideals while flexing on all those who wrote him off because he wasn’t afraid to take an unpopular political stand in 2016 by protesting during the national anthem.
Now that opportunity very well could have evaporated.
With lingering emotional scars from nearly three years of exile from the league, Kaepernick couldn’t trust the setup presented to him this weekend in Atlanta. He sabotaged his opportunity and took another step further away from returning to the NFL. Worst of all, he lent further credence to those who have long suspected he never really was all that serious about playing again.
After Saturday, in which the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback moved his NFL-coordinated workout and performed one on his own terms, Kaepernick’s critics will only dig in even further. Those still trying to make up their mind on him will find it even harder to do so.
Nothing good came out of Saturday. Nobody won.
Kaepernick’s supporters will praise him for showing he does indeed still belong in this league. They’ll view him as heroic for staging his own workout. And they’ll accuse commissioner Roger Goodell of contriving a plan to embarrass Kaepernick and rid the NFL of this polarizing figure once and for all.
Meanwhile, critics will tell a far different version. They’ll accuse Kaepernick of hijacking the day to further command the spotlight. They’ll cluck their tongues and say, “I told ya so.”
But both views are far too simplistic and one-sided.
This was bad on both ends. There’s blame to go around.
Colin Kaepernick holds workout for scouts, media
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Colin Kaepernick holds workout for scouts, media
The original workout should have never even been announced before both sides agreed to arrangements. It's true that Goodell should have tried to fix this problem years ago. But it’s untrue that he viewed this weekend's unprecedented workout as a way to put a final nail in the Kaepernick coffin.
Yes, Kaepernick’s name comes up every time a starter is injured or some mediocre passer throws an ugly interception. But Goodell didn’t need to rip this scab off again, especially during what’s supposed to be a special 100th season that's already featured too much unflattering drama.
Were the terms and restrictions of the workout fair? Some, yes. Some, no. The league absolutely operated out of a double standard by denying Kaepernick’s request for media coverage to ensure transparency. Every February, the NFL rakes in the dough by allowing its own television network to broadcast the scouting combine. So what harm would cameras at the Falcons’ facility have done? None.
But be careful about buying the narrative that the language in the waiver presented to Kaepernick by the league was significantly different from any other rookie camp or free agent tryout waiver. Several people familiar with the matter, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation, say its wording is very similar to that of any of those other ones.
And if anyone thought that the league wouldn’t try to maintain control, then they were kidding themselves.
The league did get played, however. Even as a private workout, Saturday was all about Kaepernick. But, by design, he took the attention to another level.
Many people within the league — from NFL officials to team talent evaluators and current players — speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, told USA TODAY Sports they believe Kaepernick and his camp had no real intention of showing up at the Falcons’ facility for the 3 p.m. workout. They likely didn’t just decide at 2:30 p.m. on Saturday that they were going to hold the public workout approximately 60 miles away from the Falcons’ facility.
Kaepernick's power move further fueled the school of thought that he’s more concerned with theatrics than football.
If Kaepernick truly wanted to showcase his skills to as many talent evaluators as possible, then his actions definitely didn’t indicate so. He inconvenienced the 20-plus NFL scouts who had already set up at Falcons' headquarters and suddenly had to figure out how or if they should make the hour-plus-long trip to Charles Drew High School by 4 p.m. A handful did go there, but the majority bagged their plans. Hue Jackson, whom the NFL had appointed to run the original workout, left the Falcons’ facility and flew back home.
Multiple people within the league told USA TODAY Sports that, in their opinion, Kaepernick cared more about showcasing his skills to his supporters than he did to potential employers. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the topic. And these weren't people with a grudge against Kaepernick. This was coming from men on different levels and branches of the league who wanted to see him back in the NFL.
Once the workout finally did take place, Kaepernick showed us what we knew all along: He possesses NFL-caliber talent, and he’s still in shape.
But Saturday’s NFL-arranged workout wasn’t so much supposed to be about the throws as it was about affording teams an opportunity to see Kaepernick check off a bunch of important boxes. Could he carry himself with flexibility and professionalism? Could he deal with pressure and renewed scrutiny? Could he handle pointed questions and present a well-devised plan for reviving his career? Could he take care of business with minimal fanfare?
Kaepernick failed that test. Now, who knows what's next?
I do believe Kaepernick at least in part still wants to play — if it’s on his terms. The problem: Unless we’re self-employed, very few of us get to do our jobs on our very own terms. And even self-employed men and women have a certain code that they must adhere to.
Kaepernick doesn’t seem to get that, though.
It’s hard to envision Kaepernick making it back to the league now. It’s sad, because his off-field mission is righteous and his athleticism is special.
It’s tremendous that Kaepernick has given a voice to the racially and socially oppressed and that he spends his time educating people of color of their rights. He’s absolutely right to preach the need for members of law enforcement to be held accountable for abuses of power.
But Kaepernick’s methods have long made it hard for his critics to take him seriously. More important, NFL owners have always deemed Kaepnerick’s as too distracting. Saturday’s shenanigans were no different.
Essentially, Kaepernick's circus might have just cost him a job.
Follow USA TODAY Sports’ Mike Jones on Twitter @ByMikeJones and listen to the Football Jones podcast on iTunes.
MIKE JONES | USA TODAY | 45 minutes ago
SportsPulse: After a bizarre day that ended in a workout at a high school football field, Colin Kaepernick spoke with the media and explains that he's been 'ready' for a long time.
USA TODAY
What we witnessed on Saturday, in the latest episode of Colin Kaepernick against the world, was nothing short of tragic yet entirely avoidable.
In his long-overdue opportunity to work out for prospective employers, Kaepernick had the chance to change minds, to rewrite the narrative. He could have secured the ultimate victory over the league and owners who have blacklisted him for three years.
He had the chance to position himself to simultaneously shred both defenses and racist ideals while flexing on all those who wrote him off because he wasn’t afraid to take an unpopular political stand in 2016 by protesting during the national anthem.
Now that opportunity very well could have evaporated.
With lingering emotional scars from nearly three years of exile from the league, Kaepernick couldn’t trust the setup presented to him this weekend in Atlanta. He sabotaged his opportunity and took another step further away from returning to the NFL. Worst of all, he lent further credence to those who have long suspected he never really was all that serious about playing again.
After Saturday, in which the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback moved his NFL-coordinated workout and performed one on his own terms, Kaepernick’s critics will only dig in even further. Those still trying to make up their mind on him will find it even harder to do so.
Nothing good came out of Saturday. Nobody won.
Kaepernick’s supporters will praise him for showing he does indeed still belong in this league. They’ll view him as heroic for staging his own workout. And they’ll accuse commissioner Roger Goodell of contriving a plan to embarrass Kaepernick and rid the NFL of this polarizing figure once and for all.
Meanwhile, critics will tell a far different version. They’ll accuse Kaepernick of hijacking the day to further command the spotlight. They’ll cluck their tongues and say, “I told ya so.”
But both views are far too simplistic and one-sided.
This was bad on both ends. There’s blame to go around.
Colin Kaepernick holds workout for scouts, media
View | 11 Photos
Colin Kaepernick holds workout for scouts, media
The original workout should have never even been announced before both sides agreed to arrangements. It's true that Goodell should have tried to fix this problem years ago. But it’s untrue that he viewed this weekend's unprecedented workout as a way to put a final nail in the Kaepernick coffin.
Yes, Kaepernick’s name comes up every time a starter is injured or some mediocre passer throws an ugly interception. But Goodell didn’t need to rip this scab off again, especially during what’s supposed to be a special 100th season that's already featured too much unflattering drama.
Were the terms and restrictions of the workout fair? Some, yes. Some, no. The league absolutely operated out of a double standard by denying Kaepernick’s request for media coverage to ensure transparency. Every February, the NFL rakes in the dough by allowing its own television network to broadcast the scouting combine. So what harm would cameras at the Falcons’ facility have done? None.
But be careful about buying the narrative that the language in the waiver presented to Kaepernick by the league was significantly different from any other rookie camp or free agent tryout waiver. Several people familiar with the matter, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation, say its wording is very similar to that of any of those other ones.
And if anyone thought that the league wouldn’t try to maintain control, then they were kidding themselves.
The league did get played, however. Even as a private workout, Saturday was all about Kaepernick. But, by design, he took the attention to another level.
Many people within the league — from NFL officials to team talent evaluators and current players — speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, told USA TODAY Sports they believe Kaepernick and his camp had no real intention of showing up at the Falcons’ facility for the 3 p.m. workout. They likely didn’t just decide at 2:30 p.m. on Saturday that they were going to hold the public workout approximately 60 miles away from the Falcons’ facility.
Kaepernick's power move further fueled the school of thought that he’s more concerned with theatrics than football.
If Kaepernick truly wanted to showcase his skills to as many talent evaluators as possible, then his actions definitely didn’t indicate so. He inconvenienced the 20-plus NFL scouts who had already set up at Falcons' headquarters and suddenly had to figure out how or if they should make the hour-plus-long trip to Charles Drew High School by 4 p.m. A handful did go there, but the majority bagged their plans. Hue Jackson, whom the NFL had appointed to run the original workout, left the Falcons’ facility and flew back home.
Multiple people within the league told USA TODAY Sports that, in their opinion, Kaepernick cared more about showcasing his skills to his supporters than he did to potential employers. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the topic. And these weren't people with a grudge against Kaepernick. This was coming from men on different levels and branches of the league who wanted to see him back in the NFL.
Once the workout finally did take place, Kaepernick showed us what we knew all along: He possesses NFL-caliber talent, and he’s still in shape.
But Saturday’s NFL-arranged workout wasn’t so much supposed to be about the throws as it was about affording teams an opportunity to see Kaepernick check off a bunch of important boxes. Could he carry himself with flexibility and professionalism? Could he deal with pressure and renewed scrutiny? Could he handle pointed questions and present a well-devised plan for reviving his career? Could he take care of business with minimal fanfare?
Kaepernick failed that test. Now, who knows what's next?
I do believe Kaepernick at least in part still wants to play — if it’s on his terms. The problem: Unless we’re self-employed, very few of us get to do our jobs on our very own terms. And even self-employed men and women have a certain code that they must adhere to.
Kaepernick doesn’t seem to get that, though.
It’s hard to envision Kaepernick making it back to the league now. It’s sad, because his off-field mission is righteous and his athleticism is special.
It’s tremendous that Kaepernick has given a voice to the racially and socially oppressed and that he spends his time educating people of color of their rights. He’s absolutely right to preach the need for members of law enforcement to be held accountable for abuses of power.
But Kaepernick’s methods have long made it hard for his critics to take him seriously. More important, NFL owners have always deemed Kaepnerick’s as too distracting. Saturday’s shenanigans were no different.
Essentially, Kaepernick's circus might have just cost him a job.
Follow USA TODAY Sports’ Mike Jones on Twitter @ByMikeJones and listen to the Football Jones podcast on iTunes.
Opinion: With workout power move, Colin Kaepernick might have just waved goodbye to last chance at NFL job
Colin Kaepernick took another stand on Saturday, but in doing so he might have closed the door on his last opportunity to return to the NFL.
www.usatoday.com
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This thread is in shambles
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There are checks and balances between the owners and the league that make the relationship a lot more even than you’re claiming. Owners have to approve of a commissioner, don’t they?If you don’t know what your talking about just say you don’t know what your talking about. I’m sure Colts owner Jim Irsay VOLUNTARILY wanted to give the NFL $500K of his own money and serve a 6 game suspension.....you know since the NFL answers to him and not the other way around right champ?? Read below.
Colts' Jim Irsay suspended six games, fined $500K
The NFL levied a six-game suspension on Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay on Tuesday and fined him $500,000 for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy.www.nfl.com
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You gotta drive the narrative with as much media as possible. Drown out all other opinions. No discussion to be had.
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nah...
-Da NFL needs Colin Kaepernick.
-Colin Kaepernick needs da NFL.
only one those statements is true....
Why didn't home boy just show up? he gave everyone who
thought he wasn't serious all da ammo they needed.
dudes more worried about narratives...so frustrating....
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If you don’t know what your talking about just say you don’t know what your talking about. I’m sure Colts owner Jim Irsay VOLUNTARILY wanted to give the NFL $500K of his own money and serve a 6 game suspension.....you know since the NFL answers to him and not the other way around right champ?? Read below.
Colts' Jim Irsay suspended six games, fined $500K
The NFL levied a six-game suspension on Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay on Tuesday and fined him $500,000 for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy.
Lol @ 500k meaning anything to multi billionaires. You sure it’s me who doesn’t know what they’re talking about?
These dudes don’t watch football man they just wanna be part of the discussion. We’re wasting our time.
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lamekilla
literally said “the NFL answers to all 32 owners”. I provided a FACTUAL article and situation where a NFL OWNER had to ANSWER to the NFL and serve a punishment. If you
harlemtothebronx
want to say it’s a 2-way Street between the NFL owners and the NFL that’s one thing.However when folks say the NFL answers to the owners with absolutely no proof, facts or just wants to throw out yet another empty conspiracy theory WE must address that. Dudes gotta learn how to step their debate skills up and stop being half-assed and misinformed. If not they can ask me for help or to assist with providing the proper nourishment. Shout out to all the starving brothas out there.
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Seems worth it to me. You get a really good QB to replace your trash QB if you’re not promised one in the upcoming draft. You also get a lot of fans that want to see Kaep in the nfl which leads to more people buying tickets, watching your games and buying your merchandise. I’d take those chances if i owned a team.
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Again so Jim Irsay the Indianapolis Colts NFL owner VOLUNTARILY forked over $500K of his own money and served a 6 game suspension because the NFL answers to him and not the other way around right champ??
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Ninja, why you so gassed at this topic, my g?
you fighting this harder than when people call you black.
you fighting this harder than when people call you black.
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Sheesh.
Like I said, you’re entitled to believe what you like.
Like I said, you’re entitled to believe what you like.
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Power of NFL owners’ puppet Roger Goodell is exposed as myth
The easy thing to forget in this latest National Football League fiasco, the thing the NFL is counting on us to forget, is that Roger Goodell is only playing the part of Big Boss. Goodell is the ch…
www.chicagotribune.com
I think you’re out your field of expertise, champ. But I won’t chastise you. Each one, teach one.
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me personally? idc im a Giants fan so my season been over.
this is news of da day, and i thought homeboy was finally gonna be be back...it felt good hearing Carmelo is back to in da NBA, so i figured that same news was gonna pan out for Kaep... except this cat couldn't just stay low & keep firing.
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hit em with “each one, teach one” phrase
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if that’s the case why is Kap saying he’s ready to get back in the league and coming out with commercials saying he’s been ready for 3 years to get back to playing the NFL...all while the NFL has been strolling along without Kap for 3 years and made 16 BILLION dollars last year with no Kap involved. Seems to me based upon that one side DEFINITELY needs one more than the other champ.
For me as a 49ers fan I would love for Kap to be back in the league to show and prove, and to continue to spread his messages but to me that doesn’t absolve him from his huge mistake yesterday. Kap dropped the ball not only for himself but for his knowledgeable supporters. All we gotta do now is get the starving brothas on track.....they need help more than anyone.
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Power of NFL owners’ puppet Roger Goodell is exposed as myth
The easy thing to forget in this latest National Football League fiasco, the thing the NFL is counting on us to forget, is that Roger Goodell is only playing the part of Big Boss. Goodell is the ch…
I think you’re out your field of expertise, champ. But I won’t chastise you. Each one, teach one.
Good Lord you are dumb. Why hast thou forshaken me with this stupidity from
lamekilla
?? You are confusing a person that represents an entity with the actual entity itself. I never even said Roger Goodell’s name in any of my responses....there’s a reason for that. Roger Goodell just represents the NFL.....he himself isn’t the NFL.To
lamekilla
and anyone that currently thinks like him....black people have got to stop being the stupid people in the room just because. Despite
lamekilla
lack of education and misinformation WE are better than this and deserve better representation...which is why I’m here to help move things in the right direction and help those who severely need help the most. Shout out to all the starving brothas out there......you know who you are.
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Kap was in a no win situation. Play the NFL’s dog and pony show on their terms and their stipulations with no access to any of the footage, no media allowed etc.
Or go about it the way he did and get the criticism and scrutiny that comes with that.
Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. Hopefully moving forward he’s more transparent and outspoken on his end on getting his point and opinion across though. At this point he might as well.
Or go about it the way he did and get the criticism and scrutiny that comes with that.
Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. Hopefully moving forward he’s more transparent and outspoken on his end on getting his point and opinion across though. At this point he might as well.
