COMMENTS? Russian analyst: U.S. will collapse next year....

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  1. moneymakinmatt

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    Russian analyst: U.S. will collapse next year

    Kremlin-linked scholar cites economic woes, 'social and cultural phenomena'

    Igor Panarin, the dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's diplomatic academy, tells an audience Tuesday night that the end of the United States is near.


    updated 7:58 a.m. ET, Wed., March. 4, 2009
    MOSCOW - If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the United States will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

    Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.

    "There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy - a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.

    Meshing with the Kremlin's view
    The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the United States that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin.

    Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy.

    Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources.

    He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now.

    Prediction: Alaska will return to Russian control
    But he said the recent economic turmoil in the United States and other "social and cultural phenomena" led him to nail down a specific timeframe for "The End" - when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control.

    Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men.

    Turning to economic woes, he cited the slide in major stock indexes, the decline in U.S. gross domestic product and Washington's bailout of banking giant Citigroup as evidence that American dominance of global markets has collapsed.

    "I was there recently and things are far from good," he said. "What's happened is the collapse of the American dream."

    Panarin insisted he didn't wish for a U.S. collapse, but he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar.

    Asked for comment on how the Foreign Ministry views Panarin's theories, a spokesman said all questions had to be submitted in writing and no answers were likely before Wednesday.


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    Persuasive?
    It wasn't clear how persuasive the 20-minute lecture was. One instructor asked Panarin whether his predictions more accurately describe Russia, which is undergoing its worst economic crisis in a decade as well as a demographic collapse that has led some scholars to predict the country's demise.

    Panarin dismissed that idea: "The collapse of Russia will not occur."

    But Alexei Malashenko, a scholar-in-residence at the Carnegie Moscow Center who did not attend the lecture, sided with the skeptical instructor, saying Russia is the country that is on the verge of disintegration.

    "I can't imagine at all how the United States could ever fall apart," Malashenko told the AP.
     
  2. tom jooks

    tom jooks Banned

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    Russia sucks.
     
  3. hypebeast mcstreetwear

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  4. drsfinest72

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    did he just say martial law can take effect as soon as this year? oh hell no. =/
     
  5. itz rolli

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    is this that one cat with the US all cut up on the map. Talkin bout how China is gonna control California and Florida going to Nigeria or whatnot [​IMG]
     
  6. DVMNXK

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    Haters...Russia will fall before we do lol.
     
  7. iswearimcool

    iswearimcool Banned

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    split into 6 states?
    Manhattan
    Brooklyn
    Florida
    California
    Washington DC
    Everybody else
     
  8. moneymakinmatt

    moneymakinmatt

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    Might as well be from MediaTakeout

    But its from MSNBC so.....
     
  9. jeyel

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    " He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now. "

    i mean.. either it happens and he says " i told you so!" or he keeps waiting for it to happen and he says " just you wait and see. soonyou'll understand"
     
  10. dey know yayo

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    he knows nothing. russia essentially defaulted on part of its sovereign debt while foreigners are STILL HOLDING their american debt, not because the dollar isstructurally strong or anything, but because they are tied to the ponzi scheme known as the US Treasury and leaving it would be mutually assured destruction.

    america is more immune than any other nation in the world.
     
  11. oh you mad

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  12. tannervon

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    this was posted again and this is just russian propaganda so dont pay it any mind.
     
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  14. sorkoram

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    "...pray and pray on my downfall, but everytime I hit the ground, I bounce like roundball"

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  15. DownByLaw

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    They're still salty they lost the Cold War, nobody should listen to any clowns from Russia [​IMG]
     
  16. mac a roni

    mac a roni Banned

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    How many times has russia collapsed? but honestly it happens all the time in history so in due timethis country will fall from the top...gotta start saving now [​IMG]
     
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  18. lazyj10

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    Didn't Russia default late 90's early 2000's, too??
     
  19. dunknforce

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    pretty much sums it all up
     
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