"Disarm NYPD" group publicly burns flag then require immediate police safety escort

[bandit country]

But bear in mind: if you're fighting overseas in the name of American values and "free speech," this is a by-product of that.  Popular speech doesn't need protection.

You can't pick and choose what speech should be free.

Except the protestors are not 'ultra-liberals' as you claim, but more than likely anarchists. They are the least in favor of 'free speech' of anybody.

They are also avowed opponents of the State, but run to its goons for protection when confronted.

Finally, anarchists are the type to use violence to further their own ends, but decry it when they themselves are victimized.

Having said that, I don't care about the flag one way or the other and wouldn't waste my time arguing with Fort Greene gentrifiers. I think American patriotism is good spirited, but misguided and often exploited by insidious forces. But nobody can act surprised by this reaction, especially on July 4th.

Even the Anarchism subreddit is laughing at these nerds.

 

[yamcha]

I honestly hate both sides of this.

A bunch of ultra-liberal hypocrites vs. a group of neanderthals willing to shoot hands over a piece of fabric that's probably made in Taiwan.

All the while all of the sane people are stuck in the middle.

 

[Comparison Ford]

 

But bear in mind: if you're fighting overseas in the name of American values and "free speech," this is a by-product of that.  Popular speech doesn't need protection.

You can't pick and choose what speech should be free.

Except the protestors are not 'ultra-liberals' as you claim, but more than likely anarchists. They are the least in favor of 'free speech' of anybody.

They are also avowed opponents of the State, but run to its goons for protection when confronted.

Finally, anarchists are the type to use violence to further their own ends, but decry it when they themselves are victimized.

Having said that, I don't care about the flag one way or the other and wouldn't waste my time arguing with Fort Greene gentrifiers. I think American patriotism is good spirited, but misguided and often exploited by insidious forces. But nobody can act surprised by this reaction, especially on July 4th.

Even the Anarchism subreddit is laughing at these nerds.

That's a nice mix of semantics and conjecture you've got there...but I'll entertain:

There are different forms of anarchism, and I'm willing to bet money that a lot of these individuals label themselves as "anarcho-socialists."

Point being is that their views are clearly more far-left than far-right.  Call it what you will, but we all know the type of people that would back something like this.

 

[cedric ceballos]

people should have better restraint. sadly though that's usually not the case.   hell people get into it over the most pettiest stuff there days sometimes resorting in violence.

the flag burners should've been more aware that burning the flag might piss some people off who that flag means something to, and the other folks shouldn't be quick to resort to violence but if only this was an ideal world.

but i can see how someone that lost a relative in iraq or afganastan would have an enraged reaction to someone burning the flag,   same way someone who's had a police brutality incident hit close to home would have an enraged reaction to someone making light of it.

 

[bandit country]

Point being is that their views are clearly more far-left than far-right.

Who said otherwise?

There are different forms of anarchism, and I'm willing to bet money that a lot of these individuals label themselves as "anarcho-socialists."

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Here's something from Disarm NYPD's Facebook. You'll note the black flag, which is typically associated with the anarchist movement.

So no, I'd say the soccer mom voting for Obama and the kid wearing a black bandana over his face as he smashes a Starbucks window are not merely separated by semantics.


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18l...7wx8TfpQ/viewanalytics#start=publishanalytics

Here's an interesting link from the Socialism subreddit. More than half of those surveyed think ideologically opposed speech should be restricted. They're not big on freedom of association either. Seems disingenuous to hide behind free speech.

Oh and look at their opinion on violence.

 

[Comparison Ford]

 

Point being is that their views are clearly more far-left than far-right.

Who said otherwise?

There are different forms of anarchism, and I'm willing to bet money that a lot of these individuals label themselves as "anarcho-socialists."

Here's something from Disarm NYPD's Facebook. You'll note the black flag, which is typically associated with the anarchist movement.

So no, I'd say the soccer mom voting for Obama and the kid wearing a black bandana over his face as he smashes a Starbucks window are not merely separated by semantics.


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18l...7wx8TfpQ/viewanalytics#start=publishanalytics

Here's an interesting link from the Socialism subreddit. More than half of those surveyed think ideologically opposed speech should be restricted. They're not big on freedom of association either. Seems disingenuous to hide behind free speech.

Where the hell did I even come close to saying that?

I really don't understand where you're trying to get at here.  They clearly have leftist views.  I used the term "ultra-liberal" instead of "leftist."  So sue me.

I also noted the fact that they're clearly hypocrites in my first post. You're trying to initiate an argument over nothing right now.  

Go home.

 

[bandit country]

The flag burners brought dudes in pink dresses (2nd video, 1:01 mark) to the party and were surprised they got worked by some hammerheads in MC cuts?

 

[bandit country]

Where the hell did I even come close to saying that?

I really don't understand where you're trying to get at here.  They clearly have leftist views.  I used the term "ultra-liberal" instead of "leftist."  So sue me.

I also noted the fact that they're clearly hypocrites in my first post. You're trying to initiate an argument over nothing right now.  

Go home.

I'm not trying to initiate an argument at all.

Ultra-liberal is not a synonym for anarchists, as they have markedly different goals and favor different tactics.

But I accept that you see now you were mistaken and wish you the best.

 

[blastercombo]

All for web views. These new "extremists" are nothing more than YouTube channel owners, and IG like ******

 

[jape]

mad disrespect...

imo if you gonna burn the flag like that...you have to be ready to defend yourself 

 

[JPS]

look at these dudes running to save a flag.

but let a black man die at the hands of police brutality they do nothing.

fabric> black flesh???

 

[flesh prince]

interesting times

 

[flesh prince]

look at these dudes running to save a flag.

but let a black man die at the hands of police brutality they do nothing.

fabric> black flesh???

this though...

 

[az102]

So what about the when the Muslims get upset because of negative depictions of the prophet Muhammad or God? When they want to get violent people tell them that its free speech and they need to get over it. Maybe these people need to get over it too.

 

[cedric ceballos]

it goes both ways.  if someone burns a koran or makes a mockery of the prophet Muhammad and they get hands put on them, they brought it upon themselves.

i remember there was some rally in front of a mosque in arizona last month where they did a Muhammad drawing contest or something disrespectful like that. if some muslims decided to check them on that, i wouldn't see anything wrong with it. 

some people can turn the other cheek and not react physically, but when you do stuff like burning korans, american flags etc, you run the risk of receiving a potential physical reaction which you brought upon yourself.

hell same with the idiots going to some of the michael brown rallies last year with "i am darren wilson" shirts.   they did it to ruffle feathers and ger a reaction.  if they were to get touched they brought it upon themselves because they knew what they were doing. 

 

[JPS]

 
it goes both ways.  if someone burns a koran or makes a mockery of the prophet Muhammad and they get hands put on them, they brought it upon themselves.

i remember there was some rally in front of a mosque in arizona last month where they did a Muhammad drawing contest or something disrespectful like that. if some muslims decided to check them on that, i wouldn't see anything wrong with it. 

some people can turn the other cheek and not react physically, but when you do stuff like burning korans, american flags etc, you run the risk of receiving a potential physical reaction which you brought upon yourself.

hell same with the idiots going to some of the michael brown rallies last year with "i am darren wilson" shirts.   they did it to ruffle feathers and ger a reaction.  if they were to get touched they brought it upon themselves because they knew what they were doing. 

would muslims be protected like the "I am Darren Wilson" folk?

 

[az102]

 
it goes both ways.  if someone burns a koran or makes a mockery of the prophet Muhammad and they get hands put on them, they brought it upon themselves.

i remember there was some rally in front of a mosque in arizona last month where they did a Muhammad drawing contest or something disrespectful like that. if some muslims decided to check them on that, i wouldn't see anything wrong with it. 

some people can turn the other cheek and not react physically, but when you do stuff like burning korans, american flags etc, you run the risk of receiving a potential physical reaction which you brought upon yourself.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I just think its funny that the same people who condemn Muslims when they get violent over the way Muhammad is portrayed think its okay to get violent when something they hold dear is disrespected.

 

[cedric ceballos]

 
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I just think its funny that the same people who condemn Muslims when they get violent over the way Muhammad is portrayed think its okay to get violent when something they hold dear is disrespected.

oh yeah, the selectiveness of some people is corny.  if you get mad over the flag being burned, you should be just as mad over people disrespectinv the koran, but some people want it one way when it beneifts them and another way when it doesn't

and to answer instagrams post, i'm sure we both know the answer to that.    but that being said, if they were to get touched it's fair game because they knew what they were doing. i wouldn't have an ounce of sympathy for them. people are on edge about what's going on and some idiot wants to throw salt in the wound, they deserve whatever response they get.

 

[zapatohead408]

look at these dudes running to save a flag.

but let a black man die at the hands of police brutality they do nothing.

fabric> black flesh???

Shut your mouth. There's no way to prove that those people there would do that.

Burn the Confederate Flag, that sends a message. Burning both the Confederate flag and the U.S Flag? That just confuses me. The US flag doesn't stand for slavery or oppression. It stands for everything that has happened and more importantly everything that is going to happen. Now what the hell are you doing to make sure that tomorrow is a better day than yesterday?

We are what the US flag stands for. If you let the racist bigots of this country win and keep running the system the way they are, then the US flag will stand for that. Or we can do the best we can to steer this country in the right direction so that we can be proud of our flag.

I for one will run and pull an American flag out of a fire, as long as it's a reasonable size fire that isn't putting my life in harm. Before any NT extremes come up, no I won't jump into a burning building or house to save a flag. If I see someone burning an American flag I will however go and save the flag or what's left of it. If I don't like the reason for it, I may act upon it.

I will however jump into harms way to save the life of a black man, or anybody for that matter. Obviously at the hands of police it's a bit different, but I will do everything in my power to save a life. And if I die protecting somebody else, it's something worth dying for.

 

[JPS]

Shut your mouth. There's no way to prove that those people there would do that.

Burn the Confederate Flag, that sends a message. Burning both the Confederate flag and the U.S Flag? That just confuses me. The US flag doesn't stand for slavery or oppression. It stands for everything that has happened and more importantly everything that is going to happen. Now what the hell are you doing to make sure that tomorrow is a better day than yesterday?

We are what the US flag stands for. If you let the racist bigots of this country win and keep running the system the way they are, then the US flag will stand for that. Or we can do the best we can to steer this country in the right direction so that we can be proud of our flag.

I for one will run and pull an American flag out of a fire, as long as it's a reasonable size fire that isn't putting my life in harm. Before any NT extremes come up, no I won't jump into a burning building or house to save a flag. If I see someone burning an American flag I will however go and save the flag or what's left of it. If I don't like the reason for it, I may act upon it.

I will however jump into harms way to save the life of a black man, or anybody for that matter. Obviously at the hands of police it's a bit different, but I will do everything in my power to save a life. And if I die protecting somebody else, it's something worth dying for.

meh. u also said u wanted to hang black people

 

[zapatohead408]

Shut your mouth. There's no way to prove that those people there would do that.


Burn the Confederate Flag, that sends a message. Burning both the Confederate flag and the U.S Flag? That just confuses me. The US flag doesn't stand for slavery or oppression. It stands for everything that has happened and more importantly everything that is going to happen. Now what the hell are you doing to make sure that tomorrow is a better day than yesterday?


We are what the US flag stands for. If you let the racist bigots of this country win and keep running the system the way they are, then the US flag will stand for that. Or we can do the best we can to steer this country in the right direction so that we can be proud of our flag.


I for one will run and pull an American flag out of a fire, as long as it's a reasonable size fire that isn't putting my life in harm. Before any NT extremes come up, no I won't jump into a burning building or house to save a flag. If I see someone burning an American flag I will however go and save the flag or what's left of it. If I don't like the reason for it, I may act upon it.


I will however jump into harms way to save the life of a black man, or anybody for that matter. Obviously at the hands of police it's a bit different, but I will do everything in my power to save a life. And if I die protecting somebody else, it's something worth dying for.

meh. u also said u wanted to hang black people

I said I wanted to hang all people who committed a crime similar to what that guy who happened to be black did, yea. What was he? A pedophile?

edit: I stand by my statement.

 

[JPS]

I said I wanted to hang all people who committed a crime similar to what that guy who happened to be black did, yea. What was he? A pedophile?

edit: I stand by my statement.

NAH I'm pretty sure directly said something about hanging black people.

 

[zapatohead408]

I said I wanted to hang all people who committed a crime similar to what that guy who happened to be black did, yea. What was he? A pedophile?


edit: I stand by my statement.

NAH I'm pretty sure directly said something about hanging black people.

I quoted song lyrics by Charlie Daniels, so I know you're lying. But good try. And had my post not been deleted and I been blocked from the thread, I'd be able to prove it.

 

[JPS]

lmao. please can u type out what lyric you quoted? 

SWS

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Kid is an idiot. One minute he's slobbing down Dom Kennedy's member, the next he wants Black men hanged. Little nerd has been exposed plenty of times on here. No reason in arguing with a clown like that