do you wish you were white at imes?

way to blame other people for your problems and complain like a whiney b.

blame the white man, it works so well.
 
Originally Posted by A Hunnid

No HELL NO!

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Don't blame the race you were born for why you're not where you want to be in life, blame yourself for even considering that your race is the reasonfor why you are allowing yourself to fall behind.
 
i don't know what it is, but it just seems like if you're white everything just falls into place somehow.
Try again, I've had to work my *!% off for everything I've accomplished, bought, etc. My family backs mewith love and support, nothing else.
 
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@ you saying it will be a great dishonor for me to post my girl


And yes I wish I was white, matter fact a European
 
Originally Posted by 8tothe24

gotJz wrote:
8tothe24 wrote:
I couldn't disagree more with you OP. I think you are just seeing what you want to see, because it helps you explain your views on life. From personal experience, I will say that being white gets you nothing more than anyone else. When I didn't try my hardest in life, I found myself spiraling downward with no opportunities and most be slammed shut in my face. People will hold you down no matter what the color of your skin. It is funny to see minorties talking about how white people could never understand them; yet they find it so easy to stereotype white people and the so called "opportunities" that they enjoy so much. Man up, just do you, and be proud of who you are.

Actually you're totally wrong. While not working hard MIGHT get you nowhere like it would a minority, working hard will definately get you farther most of the time than a similarly hard working minority. The fact is that in this country, there is a system in place where white people are put in a position to succeed or at least simply live comfortably. That is not to say that there are no poor white people, but the number of poor minorities far out number those of whites.

Do I feel as if I were white at times (I'm black)...No, but I do understand where OP is coming from and I DO wish I had the oppurtunities that white people have. I feel as if that was all the OP was getting at, but has recieved stupid answers in return. As for the person who stated the line about having a black president, that's part of America's problem. What makes Obama black? I still don't get it. The man is just as much white as he is black so he is our first mixed president, but oh well.



Actually you are totally wrong, see how this game is going to work (not trying to offend, just saying it is debatable). Is there discrimination out there- of course. But there is no "system" that privileges people for being white, and I would love to know what these "opportunities" are. If there are, they forgot to give my family/ancestors the memo. I went to public school, I started working at 15, I went to a state university while working 40 hrs a week. The majority of the CEOs and management for the company I work at are minorities. You can say what feel, but I see the reality around me. If you mean "opportunity" as in going to elite schools and getting elite jobs- you know what, that isn't a white thing, it is a $$$,$$$,$$$.$$ thing. And 99.99% of white people don't have those "opportunities." Other than that and the racist South; us whites are struggling along just as much as every other ethnicity. You know your reality and I know my reality- nothing wrong with either. But like I don't know what minorities go through, minorities don't know what I go through.

I am not arguing the history of what blacks and native americans had to endure; but for the vast majority of white people today, there is no system in place set to make them succeed over others. The terms, opportunities, is just thrown around without any consideration to what exactly one is talking about and the context of its usage.

Anyways, I am not trying to get into any more NT race debates. Have a good evening.


No you didn't offend and after I put the "Actually you're wrong" I forgot to put the "in my opinion" lol. The fact I do want togive is that the founding forefathers of this country are white and people in power have always been no matter what way you want to look at it. Money is whatenables those things, but it's a revolving door. Who do you think are best oppurtune to get into money? I don't discredit anything you have said, butin one of my race relations projects at school earlier this year they said it would be about 600 years before blacks were in economic equality as whites.Everyone works hard, but certain groups of people gain much more from their hard work.

Like you said though, we will leave the NT race debates for the right time and place. Peace.
 
Originally Posted by gotJz

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

gotJz wrote:
8tothe24 wrote:
I couldn't disagree more with you OP. I think you are just seeing what you want to see, because it helps you explain your views on life. From personal experience, I will say that being white gets you nothing more than anyone else. When I didn't try my hardest in life, I found myself spiraling downward with no opportunities and most be slammed shut in my face. People will hold you down no matter what the color of your skin. It is funny to see minorties talking about how white people could never understand them; yet they find it so easy to stereotype white people and the so called "opportunities" that they enjoy so much. Man up, just do you, and be proud of who you are.

Actually you're totally wrong. While not working hard MIGHT get you nowhere like it would a minority, working hard will definately get you farther most of the time than a similarly hard working minority. The fact is that in this country, there is a system in place where white people are put in a position to succeed or at least simply live comfortably. That is not to say that there are no poor white people, but the number of poor minorities far out number those of whites.

Do I feel as if I were white at times (I'm black)...No, but I do understand where OP is coming from and I DO wish I had the oppurtunities that white people have. I feel as if that was all the OP was getting at, but has recieved stupid answers in return. As for the person who stated the line about having a black president, that's part of America's problem. What makes Obama black? I still don't get it. The man is just as much white as he is black so he is our first mixed president, but oh well.


Actually you are totally wrong, see how this game is going to work (not trying to offend, just saying it is debatable). Is there discrimination out there- of course. But there is no "system" that privileges people for being white, and I would love to know what these "opportunities" are. If there are, they forgot to give my family/ancestors the memo. I went to public school, I started working at 15, I went to a state university while working 40 hrs a week. The majority of the CEOs and management for the company I work at are minorities. You can say what feel, but I see the reality around me. If you mean "opportunity" as in going to elite schools and getting elite jobs- you know what, that isn't a white thing, it is a $$$,$$$,$$$.$$ thing. And 99.99% of white people don't have those "opportunities." Other than that and the racist South; us whites are struggling along just as much as every other ethnicity. You know your reality and I know my reality- nothing wrong with either. But like I don't know what minorities go through, minorities don't know what I go through.

I am not arguing the history of what blacks and native americans had to endure; but for the vast majority of white people today, there is no system in place set to make them succeed over others. The terms, opportunities, is just thrown around without any consideration to what exactly one is talking about and the context of its usage.

Anyways, I am not trying to get into any more NT race debates. Have a good evening.


No you didn't offend and after I put the "Actually you're wrong" I forgot to put the "in my opinion" lol. The fact I do want to give is that the founding forefathers of this country are white and people in power have always been no matter what way you want to look at it. Money is what enables those things, but it's a revolving door. Who do you think are best oppurtune to get into money? I don't discredit anything you have said, but in one of my race relations projects at school earlier this year they said it would be about 600 years before blacks were in economic equality as whites. Everyone works hard, but certain groups of people gain much more from their hard work.

Like you said though, we will leave the NT race debates for the right time and place. Peace.


finally some nt'ers that i can have a decent debate with. i thought that was the purpose of a forum
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gotJz, you've taken the words out of my mouth. that's what i was getting at...blacks, latinos, asians all have to work

their absolute hardest to live "comfortably", when in fact whites receive these opportunities with minimal effort.

again, i don't want any whites to feel offended because that wasn't my goal of this topic. i'm not angry at anyone

i'm just hurt by these observations. sure whites have "everyday" problems just like everyone else, but they are more

likely to receive the benefit of the doubt and a "helping" hand in any situation than others.
 
i dont wish i was white... but....

i see where you comin from, my boy... i was readin the whole first post like "he is a kinfoe"... lol...

but fareal though... it's tite bein black...

the only problem is i feel like i'm the only black athlete havin trouble gettin white chicks... lol...

i thought it was easy?... i watch too much porn... lmao...
 
Sometimes yes.

Not cause of getting harassed by the Police.
Not cause I get followed in stores
Not cause I dont know I can be whatever i want to be.

Those are shallow reasons. My reason is much more complicated.

In the end when I question what would I do if I were white. I look in the mirror and say
"Some day they will love me. Until then I will rest solely on my own strength"

You got to have that self respect.
People harp on their differences too much. The only race that matters is the human one.
So you get followed in stores? Ignore them if you must. Strike a common bond, show that you are a person. There are people who believe that everything they seeon the TV is true about all people of ethnic nature. The stereotype is the norm, change that.
So you get harassed by the police? If you aint did #%@% be honest. If you are doing something thats against the law learn to live with that , hide the weed,dont be an %$+ hole to a person who's risking they life for a system they dont fully understand.
Attack a police officers profiling with kindness, dont be that guy who talks a lot of #%@% and gets put in the car while everybody else goes home.

If none of the above affects you on a regular basis and you have problems with your ethnicity then you got to get some control of your mind.
If you really look at it as a detrement (which you should'nt) do what you want to inspite of it. Cause if you really want to do it nothing should hold youback.


Some of you are mistaken if you think that you cant link up with people who share a common goal. Black people complain and complain yet do nothing to changetheir circumstances this is system that is almost universal. Yea there are things that affect black people different, but that cant be an excuse to beignorant.

You have to better yourself, evem if that is someone elses eyes.
 
i'm already white and wouldn't trade it for anything. when your white life is easier, the air smells better, food tastes better, every other race wantsto be in your shoes, you look better, police love you, basically the world is our oyster. life is good when your white
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Originally Posted by Damu

i'm already white and wouldn't trade it for anything. when your white life is easier, the air smells better, food tastes better, every other race wants to be in your shoes, you look better, police love you, basically the world is our oyster. life is good when your white
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Originally Posted by Damu

i'm already white and wouldn't trade it for anything. when your white life is easier, the air smells better, food tastes better, every other race wants to be in your shoes, you look better, police love you, basically the world is our oyster. life is good when your white
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Man I honestly think im gone throw up. You sound like one of those ole Puritans, who the second something goes wrong you gone be like witchcraft.
 
Originally Posted by Kakashi

Originally Posted by KingJay718

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it's Race-O-Rama night here at NT I see.


But no, I don't wish you were white, yet I see what you mean.

I went to the NBA Store yesterday, and I had two associates hovering over me as I tried on a Danny Granger authentic. Yet these white people had bags for days, yet they were given full autonomy and freedom as they tried on jersey after jersey. This associate had the nerve to ask me if "I was a fan of the NBA".
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yes, that's what i mean! the freedoms that whites have are uncanny
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, my white friends just don't understand when say this.
Every race aside from Blacks and Native Americans act like that. It's because the white man usually has more power, so people think it'sgood to suck up to them. My dad has taught me to treat them like equals. He never sucks up to White people, unlike some of his peers, it's disgustingsometimes.

I grew up with them, but i was usually the only Mexican anywhere. It really is both sides fault, I don't feel like writing an essay, maybe one day I will.

I wouldn't mind being any race really, but I appreciate being Mexican, so much history and things to be proud of.
 
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