Fidel Castro has Died at 90

[luckyluchiano]

I guess you skipped these parts.

So now being thankful that idiotic left wingers didn't try a coup partly because they knew the US and UK might respond means cosign all of Reagan's nonsense?

Dude, miss me with that.

nah miss me with that. If we talking about Castro then focus on Castro, the moment you give Reagan props for keeping "revolutionaries" *plural* in "check" you made yourself look like a Clown.

Reagan is as much as a devil as these other dictators.

 

[luckyluchiano]

How do y'all feel about Gaddafi then? 

Two different people, not sure why you bringing him up.

 

[AZwildcats]

 

How do y'all feel about Gaddafi then? 

Two different people, not sure why you bringing him up.

"Like I said I can't say anything bad about the man because from what I know he did a ton of good for Africa. The beef white cubans have with him is none of my business."

When Gaddafi died, he was mourned in parts of the continent because he was seen as having done a lot of good for Africa as well. When people asked what about what he did to his own people, they said that is their beef not ours. I was wondering if you both felt the same way

 

[ninjahood]

Reagan is as much as a devil as these other dictators.

 

[Peep Game]

Yay Castro is dead...
Now can all you Cuban republican Trump supporters go home now an quit leeching off our social security and welfare??
Being total hypocrites with your blind arrogance toward "darker" hispanics and black americans???

 

[Master Zik]

Why engage Lucky when he openly admits to being ignorant to Fidel's crimes against humanity commie ways that's no different than any other dictator?

Seems like a waste of time. Like someone trying to praise Sadaam but are not aware of his crimes.

RIP Castro. He's done so much for other countries in Latino America and was always good money with my fellow Dominicans.

You dumbass Cuban praising his death are in for a rude awakening

You can tell who is ignorant when they don't even know Fidel gave up his power so long ago to his brother.

Just stop talking. There is no rude awakening

You should wake up to how dumb it sounds that there was a 90 yr old dictator running a country.

 

[getback]

 

[Based Jesus]

Growing up in the Caribbean it allowed me to form an opinion about Castro independent of being feed stuff my American teachers, so all I have to say about Castro is..........................**** him.

He was an oppressive dictator, period.

No matter the relief he gave black Cubans, he kept most of them in economic despair because of his arrogance and greed.

One of the few, few things I am thankful of for the Reagan Administration (which was mainly all around ****, all over the world) is that they served as a credible threat to crazy "revolutionaries" every trying to take control of the government, along with the UK. But trust and believe these clowns weren't trying, and weapons weren't coming in from Cuba

For the people that he may have helped and his family, I guess today this is a bad day.

But for me, not, I won't pour out an ounce of liquor for this clown.

I don't really blame Castro for the the economic despair Cuba faced under his rule. America was a large part in making sure it suffered.

And he couldn't have prevented the soviet union from falling apart and sending them straight into the toilet.

 

 

How do y'all feel about Gaddafi then? 

Two different people, not sure why you bringing him up.

"Like I said I can't say anything bad about the man because from what I know he did a ton of good for Africa. The beef white cubans have with him is none of my business."

When Gaddafi died, he was mourned in parts of the continent because he was seen as having done a lot of good for Africa as well. When people asked what about what he did to his own people, they said that is their beef not ours. I was wondering if you both felt the same way

It's ironic how Castro decried racism in other countries while simultaneously denying it's existence in his own, thus making it a crime to even bring it up, since publicly (and sometimes even privately) disagreeing with Castro was a punishable offense. But I'm sure only white cubans had a problem with him.  

The labor camps he threw thousands of cubans into. I'm sure all of them were white.

The thousands of prisoners thrown into prison without due process, tortured and shot in front of firing squads. I'm sure all of them were white.

The unequal rationing of food after the soviet collapse that kept the elites well fed while the poor essentially had to search for food. I'm sure all of them were white.

The hundreds of thousands of people who fled the country on rickety rafts because they'd rather take their chances with Neptune than Castro. I'm sure all of them were white.

Damn. Looking at that list whites in cuba had it rough, and there's only 4 things on it.

Who knows what untold atrocities were committed against only the caucasians of Cuba?

 

[heatpinoyboy]

If there's one thing undeniable about the dismantling of Gaddafi and his regime is that it is yet another example of America's piss poor foreign policy in the greater Middle East.

Learning about history was much less complicated when I didn't to consider the rest of the world.

 

[AZwildcats]

If there's one thing undeniable about the dismantling of Gaddafi and his regime is that it is yet another example of America's piss poor foreign policy in the greater Middle East.

Learning about history was much less complicated when I didn't to consider the rest of the world.

Same thing in Iraq, that power vacuum that ensued in both countries is incredibly dangerous 

 

[RustyShackleford]

I guess you skipped these parts.

So now being thankful that idiotic left wingers didn't try a coup partly because they knew the US and UK might respond means cosign all of Reagan's nonsense?

Dude, miss me with that.

nah miss me with that. If we talking about Castro then focus on Castro, the moment you give Reagan props for keeping "revolutionaries" *plural* in "check" you made yourself look like a Clown.

Reagan is as much as a devil as these other dictators.

From a red herring onto a strawman.

Let me explain it to you one more time, so you can finally miss me with your shtick.

I didn't ******* give props to Reagan, I said I am thankful for the Reagan Administration serving as a credible threat. That is, their hard line stance on Cuba and the geopolitical climate at the time served as a deterrent for revolutionaries, revolutionaries on MY ISLAND. There were multiple groups on my island that were doing nonsense during that time. I'm' not commending the Reagan Administration foreign policy, I am saying that I my thankful that the conditions in the region at the time, partly because they helped my country.

And like I said, I am talking about the revolutionaries on my island, that brought drugs and guns onto the island to fund their "operation". That police raids in banana plantations, mangorve swamps and mountain caves had to go get. The Revolutionaries that infuriated the left wing party on the island, managed to win a highly contested election, were incompetent for like two years into a 5 year term so the people were tryin to remove them. But in response the Party held a armed march in the capital saying they are no leaving peacefully. It was only after it became clear that foreign troops might get involved, did they concede.

Those are the revolutionaries I am talking about, miss me with this reach like I was talking about the entire world. Especially bringing Mandela into it.

That is why I brought up the UK because we just got independence from them, and I given shaded Reagan for his actions all over the globe. To make it clear I was speaking specially once instance.

Anyone who is a regular in the political thread knows I hate Reagan, absolutely detest the man and have said way worst about him than call him a devil.

So maybe next time you in the mood to check someone, don't build a strawman to do so, because you will just look like a condescending clown. But given some of your previous antics on NT, I know this is a struggle for you.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Growing up in the Caribbean it allowed me to form an opinion about Castro independent of being feed stuff my American teachers, so all I have to say about Castro is..........................**** him.


He was an oppressive dictator, period.


No matter the relief he gave black Cubans, he kept most of them in economic despair because of his arrogance and greed.


One of the few, few things I am thankful of for the Reagan Administration (which was mainly all around ****, all over the world) is that they served as a credible threat to crazy "revolutionaries" every trying to take control of the government, along with the UK. But trust and believe these clowns weren't trying, and weapons weren't coming in from Cuba


For the people that he may have helped and his family, I guess today this is a bad day.


But for me, not, I won't pour out an ounce of liquor for this clown.

I don't really blame Castro for the the economic despair Cuba faced under his rule. America was a large part in making sure it suffered.


Who knows what untold atrocities were committed against only the caucasians of Cuba?

He still could have tried to transition Cuba into a socially democratic state instead of a struggling communist one.

He put maintaining power over economic decision that would have helped his people.

Of course the embargo and fall of the Soviet Union hurt, but they are not the sole reason for the state Cuba is in.

 

[secretzofwar]

Rusty is on-point here. Castro was an evil dictator who was actually more interested in fascism than communism. What does that tell you?

Lol @ people on FB, Twitter, etc. who are "sad" about Castro dying but denounce Trump. Different sides of the same coin.

 

[Based Jesus]

 

 

Growing up in the Caribbean it allowed me to form an opinion about Castro independent of being feed stuff my American teachers, so all I have to say about Castro is..........................**** him.


He was an oppressive dictator, period.


No matter the relief he gave black Cubans, he kept most of them in economic despair because of his arrogance and greed.


One of the few, few things I am thankful of for the Reagan Administration (which was mainly all around ****, all over the world) is that they served as a credible threat to crazy "revolutionaries" every trying to take control of the government, along with the UK. But trust and believe these clowns weren't trying, and weapons weren't coming in from Cuba


For the people that he may have helped and his family, I guess today this is a bad day.


But for me, not, I won't pour out an ounce of liquor for this clown.

I don't really blame Castro for the the economic despair Cuba faced under his rule. America was a large part in making sure it suffered.


Who knows what untold atrocities were committed against only the caucasians of Cuba?

He still could have tried to transition Cuba into a socially democratic state instead of a struggling communist one.

He put maintaining power over economic decision that would have helped his people.

Of course the embargo and fall of the Soviet Union hurt, but they are not the sole reason for the state Cuba is in.

You right he definitely shares the blame. I should have said I don't place all of it on him instead of saying I don't blame him at all.

 

[tommyicerocking]

 
Thats why I personally need to know moar 

Kinda reminds me of Ghadafi, people HATED this dude and was glad he was murdered but from what I understand he was trying to build an economy for Africa and create a currency that would rival the US but was killed by US supported militia before that? Idk thats a whole other thread tho

 

Yeah it's weird...with Gaddafi out, Libya is in a total ruins, but when he was their leader, the country was doing well. And now Europe is dealing with a huge crisis dealing with refugees coming from Libya.

Is it also true that the sanctimony from the US government in relation to Cuba seemed ridiculous given how the US has propped up other tyrants, like Trujjio in DR, or the dude in Liberia, ect ect? Yuuuuup.

rt

also USA supporting Saudi, but wanting to take out Assad is a complete joke.

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

 

Growing up in the Caribbean it allowed me to form an opinion about Castro independent of being feed stuff my American teachers, so all I have to say about Castro is..........................**** him.



He was an oppressive dictator, period.



No matter the relief he gave black Cubans, he kept most of them in economic despair because of his arrogance and greed.



One of the few, few things I am thankful of for the Reagan Administration (which was mainly all around ****, all over the world) is that they served as a credible threat to crazy "revolutionaries" every trying to take control of the government, along with the UK. But trust and believe these clowns weren't trying, and weapons weren't coming in from Cuba



For the people that he may have helped and his family, I guess today this is a bad day.



But for me, not, I won't pour out an ounce of liquor for this clown.

I don't really blame Castro for the the economic despair Cuba faced under his rule. America was a large part in making sure it suffered.



Who knows what untold atrocities were committed against only the caucasians of Cuba?

He still could have tried to transition Cuba into a socially democratic state instead of a struggling communist one.


He put maintaining power over economic decision that would have helped his people.


Of course the embargo and fall of the Soviet Union hurt, but they are not the sole reason for the state Cuba is in.

You right he definitely shares the blame. I should have said I don't place all of it on him instead of saying I don't blame him at all.

Oh ok, Gotcha famb.

-Listen, I'm not 100% anti-Castro or that government. I realize they have to done some good things. some

But bad governance is bad governance. An oppressive dictator is an oppressive dictator

 

[Master Zik]

Cats need to step their independent education of historical dictators and despots up.

 

[llerraj]

He actually said nothing. Cubans are the most successful group of Hispanics in the U.S. They don't consume welfare like Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. I'm a Black American with Cuban ancestry. Afro Cubans despised the man despite what leftist Black Americans would like to believe. They were also thrown in prison, monitored by secret police and executed just like their white counterparts.

Education was free, but you can't eat books. One of Castro's standout quotes was that even prostitutes are educated. That's supposed to be an accomplishment in an oppressive regime?

 

[RustyShackleford]

He actually said nothing. Cubans are the most successful group of Hispanics in the U.S. They don't consume welfare like Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. I'm a Black American with Cuban ancestry. Afro Cubans despised the man despite what leftist Black Americans would like to believe. They were also thrown in prison, monitored by secret police and executed just like their white counterparts.

Education was free, but you can't eat books. One of Castro's standout quotes was that even prostitutes are educated. That's supposed to be an accomplishment in an oppressive regime?

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Whose mans is this.

 

[JPS]

Cubans not exploiting welfare??? 

 

[sugafree]

 
He actually said nothing. Cubans are the most successful group of Hispanics in the U.S. They don't consume welfare like Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. I'm a Black American with Cuban ancestry. Afro Cubans despised the man despite what leftist Black Americans would like to believe. They were also thrown in prison, monitored by secret police and executed just like their white counterparts.

Education was free, but you can't eat books. One of Castro's standout quotes was that even prostitutes are educated. That's supposed to be an accomplishment in an oppressive regime?

They are the actual ones leeching off the system big time.

A relatively little-noted investigation from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports Castro is shipping Cuba's old to the U.S. in soaring numbers — because the Cuban Adjustment Act entitles them to free housing, free Medicaid, free Supplemental Social Security and even welfare. No matter if they have relatives who can care for them, a free retirement plan is theirs for the taking.

That's quite an enticement, given that Cuban old-age pensions run about $7 a month, and Cubans live in shambling misery with shortages, ration cards, broken-down transport and long lines. By contrast, the lowest SSI package is about $700 a month.

With free housing, free health care and free spending money added on, Cubans have a retirement plan unlike anything they can imagine in Cuba, all without having contributed a penny.

The Sun-Sentinel found that in Cuba, knowledge of these benefits is widespread. A surge of elderly Cubans coming to the U.S. for benefits has already begun, nearly doubling from 1,460 to 2,685 so far this year. And Castro has encouraged the emigration of the most costly.

It's part of an overall surge in migration, ever since President Obama announced normalization of relations. Customs and Border Protection data show that from October 2014 to June 2015, 27,296 Cubans entered the U.S. for residency, a 78% rise over last year.

More are coming. Cuba has the hemisphere's oldest population. The average age is 47, and nearly 24% of the population is above age 55, according to CIA data.

The Sun-Sentinel reported arrivals of Cubans over age 60 have risen fivefold since 2010, based on data from Florida's Department of Children and Families. So long as Cuba's economy  continues to fail, as socialism always does, and the U.S. welfare spigots remain turned on, the trickle may become a Europe-style flood.

It's become a convenient pressure valve for the Castro regime to rid itself of its old people, with all their costs of aging, while holding on to power.

The cost to U.S. taxpayers for this retirement plan for Castro's castoffs is likely billions. The Sun-Sentinel found welfare alone for all Cuban refugees is about $685 million, and Cubans are the No. 1 recipients.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...l-reexamine-benefits-cuban-immigrants-n492321

http://politicalanalysis2011.blogspot.com/

 

[ggarvinxx3]

Ruh oh [emoji]128064[/emoji]

 

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Lol

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[gry60]

The most interesting thing about the article posted above is how silent republicans tend to be when it comes to Cuban-Americans. You also have to wonder about Democrats not saying anything about it. After all, the left is often accused of relaxing immigration laws to benefit from the "immigrant vote;" meanwhile the GOP has had a 50-year head start in bringing in reliable voters.

This nation is just full of hypocrites. We could all benefit from being honest about it.