nice job, but on the real you would notice rigth away if some1 is rocking fakes.

 

not at all, unless u stopped got on your knees and took a closer look
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Well, while you're down there...

 

I would say those are the big two, but those two are much less evident on the retro+, which is would be the only reason I see to post about fake, because my expertise is simply not that I could detect fake retro+ without the mesh to guage from

 

Great post. Nice and simple.

Hopefully this will stop all those "Fake or Real?" threads.
For those about to rock (their kicks)... salute you

 

Thanks.

One of the best post, nice and simple

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The mesh doesn't always run completely parallel with the lace holder...my pair doesn't at least.

Also, the air holes which are visible through the air bubble window, are smaller on the fakes...at least when compared to my size 11.5.

 

I understand you Meth , but personally I didn't remember there was a fake identifying post made , and that this one was stored in the archives ...

Whatever , the Jordan IV are the shoes missing to my jordan collection , despite I have the white/obsidian-caro retro . I really hope to get both 1999 Retros one day ( I think OGs even DS are really too old to get some ) , and I still hope for a real re-issue as it was done with the cement III or the white/blk-red II this month .

Here is the sum-up of Jordan IV details you have to check to know if it's a fake or not (hope someone will add pics ) :

. #1 : " Corners at the heel of a real pair [ between the nubuck and the plastic parts ] are curved and not sharp [ just behind the origin of the lace holder ] " .

. #2 : " The mesh [ or plastic web on the side panels ] runs parallel to the lace holder " and not vertical .

. #3 : " the sole on the back on the fakes goes outward at the heal of the shoe aligned with the back like a \ while the real pic shoes that the sole tucks back in at the heel, straight up and down like a | " .

. # 4 : " the front outside portion of the sole [ midsole portion next to your pinky toe - only portion of midsole at the front of the shoes , since the outsole gum goes up ] is too short on fakes, on real pairs it tapers off into the rubber more " .

. # 5 : " The rubber covering the mesh should be line up with the top of the panel, not the bottom " .

. # 6 : " Stitching looks bad, common on most fakes. Lines all over the shoe are not straight, again, common on fakes " .

. # 7 : "Butt of the shoe is too flat [ shadow of the back of the shoe is more like ) than like I , like your foot is done ] . Should have more contour there "

. # 8 : Air Jordan " Tag is positioned to high on inside of tongue ".

. # 9 : Flight Jordan " tag is too low on tongue "

. # 10 : " The lines between each area on the [ out- ]sole are too narrow. Also the edges of each area are more rounded " .

. # 11 : " In many places the sole is shaped very badly " .


Thanks to all those who analyzed and elaborated those comments . Much respect .

Sam

 

This is what I've posted on several different sites.

Here are some pictures of a fake pair of IV's. I stole these pics from an eBay auction. They are claimed to be size 13.



1- The rubber covering the mesh should be line up with the top of the panel, not the bottom.

2- Stitching looks bad, common on most fakes. Lines all over the shoe are not straight, again, common on fakes.

3- Foam sticks out way to far.

4- "Butt" of the shoe is too flat. Should have more contour there.

5- Shape angle on that corner. This is the easiest way to spot fakes. All of the fakes on ebay show this.

6- Tag is positioned to high on inside of tongue.



1- This tag is too low on tongue.

2- Very little detail on the sole. The "stars" on the toe of the sole don't mean anything anymore becasue the people making these have added them in. The rest of the sole almost looked bare. I had to resize these pics to get them to fit in ISS's galleries, so it can't be seen very well in here.

3- The lines between each area on the sole are too narrow. Also the edges of each area are more rounded.



1- Tag again, too low.

2- Better picture of the sharp angle.

3- In many places the sole is shaped very badly.

These sellers are now starting to sell white/cement IV's as well. They have the same characteristics as these.

 

This post is kinda double edged: Very helpfull for people wanting real stuff, but also helpfull for the makers.
They know exactly what to make perfect to make it look more real.
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the thing that saddens me about this post is that even though your helping people tell the difference between fakes and authentic IV's you're also doing variant makers a favor by telling them what they're doing wrong. >:
" This whole time, never cared what other katz were sportin/Talk s---, I'll hitchu with a chrome nine, and I ain't talkin about Jordans/ "

 

We don't say everything wrong with them. At least I don't. Just the most obvious differences.

 

Because the people making these shoes are reading these sites. If we post everything wrong with fakes, they will know and fix them. Tag info, we started saying look at the tag info to spot fakes, they fixed that. We say look at curtain areas on a shoe, they start taking pics trying to cover those areas. In a couple of months, fake IV's will have the rubber covering the mesh facing the correct direction. We should give some info, but not everything.

 

So then it starts all over again: They step up their game, so NT needs to point out NEW area's to look for, since they fixed the others.

So in the end, you need to tell every point to let people figuring out it's a fake and at same time, tell the makers how to perfect them.

Either way it's kinda a lose/lose situation.
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They step up there game no matter what. If they get the info from us or someplace else. We will always have to keep updating posts like this. There's no point in helping them by just giving away everything we know. If we keep some info away from them, there's a chance they wont notice it and fix it.

 

Thanks Method Man and others who've contributed to I.D.ing fakes.

I probably won't be able to get those IV's thanks to the fakes all over eBay.
But it's nice knowing that I won't ever end up with fakes thanks to you guys.

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1st: Method, I'm not saying this post shouldn't exist. It IS a helpfull post.

But:

Now that is exactly the point. Keeping the smallest tiny details away from the makers, so they can't perfect them, also means that 90% of "normal" people can't tell the difference between an 100% authentic pair and a pair of fakes that looks 99% like the real deal.

So THAN you'll have to point out EVERY tiny detail so everyone, even the most "newbie" can tell the difference between OG and 99% OG looking, but fake.

At the same time this will tell the makers how to EXACTLY duplicate the real ones.

But than again, the only difference between real or fake will me made or not made by Nike. If they can duplicate them 100%, EXACTLY the same, are they fake then? Think about that. (yes there fake of course, but try seeing my point)
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The only thing dats real wit the IV's is the retro card
When I come back like Jordan, wearin the 4-5
It ain't to play games witchu-Jay-z

 

Double edged sword or not i will still come to this post to check if i ever cop some 4's, thanks meth and to the others who are trying to help us consumers, i would be hella pissed if i bought fakes....................again >:

damn fakes are freakin everywhere,
can't be too careful these days

 

Right now we give out enough information to help people. We point out the most obvious areas. Would you rather give out 75-80% of what we know and still be able to tell a fake, or give out 100% and in two months have fakes that can't be detected? Like I said before, the people that make these shoes read these sites. Why should we help them by pointing out everything thats wrong with the countereits they make?

There's nothing vain in what I do. Squandering the information would be putting all of it in an easy place for these people to use it against us.