I listened that track a lot last week for some reason. It was dope only for the fact that, that was one of the only tracks where we kinda got tofind out what really was goin on between the tow of them.
QFT!! Ether is seriously one of the most overrated diss tracks ever....In all of Jays disses he spits straight facts...Nas is just just coming upwith a whole bunch of lines about how he is gay and what not
Takeover was a response to nas' "stillmatic freestyle"
Last real n alive>blueprint 2
Damn straight.
And the hook did kill this track.DF!!!
afraid soOriginally Posted by cartune
Are yall really turning this to another Jay vs Nas thread
Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom
tru tru... he still won the war tho... he signed nas... 1 L... then bounced on his @@#... 2 Ls...Originally Posted by Master Zik
It would've worked imo and he would've clearly won the battle if he had used that as the response to Ether and we not talking about the song itself cuz the first words in my post are "Great diss songOriginally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom
but he was sayin the $!%* so calmly... like on takeover and superugly he was talkin directly to nas... on bp2 he was talkin to us ... "cant yall see that he's fake/ the rap version of td jakes, prophecizin on ya cds and tapes/"Originally Posted by Master Zik
For something that wasn't a diss it was way more potent than Super Ugly and Takeover. Notice if its a why you think he won song it's so much better than the song that was suppose to initially prove that. That shh was a diss song imo, it go crazy hard when it comes to why he thinks he's better; tore him to shreds from every angle and set the record straight on his career.Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom
it wasnt really a diss song... not like superugly and takeover... more like "why the ++!# yall think he won?!" and just pointin out why he shouldnt have... sounds kinda bitter but he was speakin facts on the whole @%@#...Originally Posted by Master Zik
Great diss songbut too late. It came off mad bitter to me. I wish he had released this right after Ether. It boggles my mind that it took him like a year to cook up a proper response.
that $!%* wouldnt have worked as an actual diss in the battle cuz it was too laid back...
bitter or not u cant tell me the song aint cold...
i gotta remember who im typin to tho... this the dude that coined the phrase "ol man jigga""
Contrary to popular belief I was riding with Jigga to win the battle despite who I thought was the better Mc. I wanted ol dude to finish where Biggie left offbut he failed and then drops the perfect response a year later
The fact that he was talking to us is just another cool turn to it. He could've semi explained that on radio like "I already won(with Takeover) and to be honest I'm better than dude so Imma address the fans who think this smart dumb ninja can really spar with GOD."
And y'all buy the %*+$, caught up in the hype
Cause the %%##@ wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the *$%*!%@# that he write
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?
Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?
I've been real all my life, they confuse it with deceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There's a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
I agree
Cause it's a diss track. That's like "Hit em up" appreciation of course people gonna bring up "Who Shot You"
Jay tried to bait him with the Summer Jam $%%$... Cause he got @ Prodigy (with the 2nd verse from "Takeover") then he just said " Ask NaS he don't want it with Hov..." but didn't do the verse.
Stillmatic Freestyle was a response to that... Then "Takeover"... Then "Ether"... Jay asked for it, you can't think you can diss NaS with the same effort you would used to go @ Prodigy...
Thats exactly what i was saying
"ask Nas he dont want it wit Hov NO!!!!!!!!!" aka bait
nas spit the freestyle tellin lies....aka takin the bait
Jay gives Nas Takeover.....response to Nas' freestyle
Ether- calls Jay gay/
Jay is on the radio...visiably shaken
Superugly -"since you so infatuated wit sayin that GAy S!!! guess you was kissin my D when you was kissin that B!!!" (LMAO)
and here comes the Massacre of BP2...and well heres that thread. I dont count Jay signin Nas as anything.....
Originally Posted by inspektahdeck
Cause He tells the WHOLE strory from his perspective... I mean in the grand scheme of things when it all mattered Jay Z was not a factor... Thats a fact he can never dispute... Switchin his style to what NaS/A/Ghost/Rae/BIG were doin is somethin he cant dispute... From a fans perspective and remembering the times, it sound pretty factual... Its just an overall more interesting song... & in NaS fashion he attacks him on different levels, not just as an MC but as a man... The SAME *$%+ Jay shifted towards on "Blueprint 2" after getting spanked lyrically...
Agree 100%.
Son avy....
