LC on Concord 11

[dk23]

Hey guys, I was able to pick up a pair of the Concord 11s and they look legit to me but would like to have some second opinions from fellow NTers to confirm that theyre are fully legit. The only thing that I felt a little uncomfortable about was that the the carbon fiber plate on the right shoe is smooth whereas the carbon fiber on the left has some texture (take a look at the pics below). Other than that, they look good to me but I may be wrong so that is why I am asking for some verification. Thanks in advance!

Additional pics:

 

[Bert.]

you should try and get a pic of the whole shoe from the side and what not, im not too good with the concords but another pic would help everyone else.

 

[dk23]

Will do!

 

[allanlin]

looks great from what I can see. 

carbon fiber on point

yellowing around pods to prove they're not "necessarily" greymarkets

jumpman on the sole is angled and closer towards the oval shape

jumpman ball lines up between the 2 and 3 on the back

there is spacing between the 2 and 3 on the back

etcetc

 

[dk23]

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[knights23]

those are legit but i thought that the line inside the tounge of the shoe should be blue not white I would like for someone that stood in line to get the shoes confirm this.

 

[shoegamenutz]

Are you talking about the two parallel lines. If so they are white my pair from footlocker have white.

 

[shoegamenutz]

The only thing that makes me question if they are grey market or retail is the toe cap on a retail pair the sole toe cap is milky and you can not see the midsole or patent leather through them. On the pair above you can see the patent leather and the midsole. But everything else is on point. But I guess it could be Jordan Brand QC.

Even if they are GM they are still legit same materials

 

[shoegamenutz]

Just unauthorized

 

[dk23]

The only thing that makes me question if they are grey market or retail is the toe cap on a retail pair the sole toe cap is milky and you can not see the midsole or patent leather through them. On the pair above you can see the patent leather and the midsole. But everything else is on point. But I guess it could be Jordan Brand QC.

Even if they are GM they are still legit same materials

Yeah, the left shoe sole cap is milky and cant see thru it like you said but for the right shoe, I can see some black through the sole. I was told this was purchased on RD (when I did the meetup) so I'm just going to take his words and believe they are retail pairs unless there are good amount of people that disagree lol

But thanks for all the feedback guys! Much appreciated!

 

[timmybrixxx]

100% legit RD pair IMO.. The toe caps are not supposed to be real clear like the OGs but not 100% opaque either.. I think you are fine OP.

 

[timmybrixxx]

The only thing that makes me question if they are grey market or retail is the toe cap on a retail pair the sole toe cap is milky and you can not see the midsole or patent leather through them. On the pair above you can see the patent leather and the midsole. But everything else is on point. But I guess it could be Jordan Brand QC.

Even if they are GM they are still legit same materials

Man stop telling people GMs are the same as RD...NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF THIS. Its spin people!!!!! Just bc everyone says its the same does not mean it is.. SHOW ME PROOF.. 

 

[knights23]

Man stop telling people GMs are the same as RD...NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF THIS. Its spin people!!!!! Just bc everyone says its the same does not mean it is.. SHOW ME PROOF.. 

yea but you have no proof they are not. and since they are identical WE WIN !

 

[timmybrixxx]

yea but you have no proof they are not. and since they are identical WE WIN !

The proof is not on me to show bro.. Its on you GM zombies that will pay $200+ for knock offs.. I know mine is legit..I guess your idea of identical and mine are just not the same... That fat drunk child rapist at the mall in Dec. looks like santa clause too..

Just open your mind and think logically.. Do you really think a billion dollar enterprise like Nike dosent know how much material they have around etc? Do you think they would just stand by and let ALL of this product(MONEY) be made right under their noses? Honestly I dont think so... Its not the EXACT materials.. Its just close(cheaper).. Its not the same factory; just close..but with less standards thats why the quality and look of GMs are exactly that..CLOSE...Much better knock offs than in the past for sure ill give you that.. But still not legit. People can tell man although you cant..  

 

[shoegamenutz]

Man stop telling people GMs are the same as RD...NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF THIS. Its spin people!!!!! Just bc everyone says its the same does not mean it is.. SHOW ME PROOF.. 

SO WHICH ONE IS WHICH?

FAKE - by definition means not authentic or genuine. Fake product is the term used for the illegal copying and manufacturing of name-brand products. In also goes by the other names like imitation, replicas, knockoffs or bootleg. BOOTLEGGING is to produce, reproduce and distribute without authorization or license. COUNTERFEIT is an imitation with intent of fraudulently passing it off as genuine. In essence Fake is a poor DUPLICATE of the genuine product.

For example, a Fake Jordan IV starts by obtaining an authentic Jordan IV (normally smuggled out from the original factory) to reverse engineer, make a mould and use inferior direct and indirect materials in the build. If you reproduce more Fake Jordan IV for distribution then you are BOOTLEGGING. If you intend to pass your FAKE Jordan IV as genuine, then you are COUNTERFEITING.

VARIANT is a sneaker with slight variation in the official product. Un-released official colorways that is not distributed to the public are also called Variants (like team college sneakers for players).

FACTORY VARIANTS can either be authentic (will discuss later) or fakes made to look different at factory level i.e. colorways or materials. Variants came into prominence in the sneaker hobby after Jordan retired for the 2nd time with the release of the Jordan XV. What’s ironic is variants pave way to Customization of sneakers and in a way, Nike ID.

HYBRIDS are sneakers made from two or more models fused together. In the 80s especially in Asia before Nike gave distribution rights, retailers buy straight from the factories. Any sneakers damaged in transit are fixed and glued together often times resulting in a sneaker with a different top or bottom. So these sneakers are usually one-offs and not necessarily fakes, it’s just the result of the retailer not wanting to lose a sale. Again, ironically, hybrids pave way to Nike fusions.

FACTORY SECONDS means imperfections found on the finish product which is also same as B-GRADES. B-Grades are sneakers that fail the quality inspection. There are two kinds of B-Grades.

FACTORY B-GRADES are sneakers that didn’t make the final cut in the manufacturing process i.e. factory, before shipment to the warehouse for distribution. Usually these sneakers are considered faulty and ‘written off’ (will discuss later).

OUTLET B-GRADES are finished sneakers shipped from the factory but failed the quality inspection for official distribution to the retailers-consumers. Failed units are usually sneakers with minor cosmetic flaws. Usually if one unit fails the inspection, 100 units before and after are taken out and considered B-Grades i.e. 1 fail unit = 201 B-Grades units to the outlets.


OK, SO WHERE DOES AIR-RANDY FIT IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS?

The best way to describe Air Randy, Marquesole etc is that they cater for the demand that never existed before in the sneaker industry. Can I coined this term or trademark it? LOL. Anyway, I call these sneakers == GREY SNEAKERS


GREY SNEAKERS?!! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?!

You see, fake sneakers are one of the commodities found in the black market. A BLACK MARKET is the trade of goods and services that are illegal in themselves and/or distributed through illegal channels, such as the selling of stolen goods or counterfeits.

A GREY MARKET is the trade of a commodity through distribution channels which, while legal, are unofficial, unauthorized, or unintended by the original manufacturer. The term grey economy, however, refers to workers being paid under the table, without paying income taxes etc. It is sometimes referred to as the underground economy or "hidden economy".

So thats why I call them GREY SNEAKERS. It’s not fake because its authentic materials etc but not legit because it is un-authorised, un-sanctioned by Nike. These dont "exist" in a way because on paper these "excess units" (see factory B-Grades) are shown as defects and/or write offs in the manufacturing cost of the Chinese OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturers) when Nike does an audit.

Please picture this scenario.

1. Jordan Brand meeting in Jan 2011, OK’s the retro of the Air Jordan III in Holiday 2011. JB instructed the factory to make a ‘sample’.

2. Sample produced and shown in JB meeting in March 2011. JB’s approved the sample.

3. The sample and ‘TECH PACK’ are given to the OEM factory in June 2011 for mass production of say 1000 units for $XXX money.

4. The OEM factory was given 3 months from July to September 2011 to produce 1000 units.

5. The OEM factory allows OVERRUNS to compensate for possible faulty, defected units or Factory B-Grades. Therefore the factory produces 1000 units + OVERRUN units.

6. The OEM shows these OVERRUNS in the manufacturing cost as write-offs so on paper when Nike does an audit these are considered ‘destroyed’.

7. The OEM instead of ‘destroying’ the write-offs instead sell these units for extra $XXX. This is where Air-Randy etc comes in.

8. Usually the Air Randys get the first batch or the run of units thus the sneakers may look slighty different (see Variant as well) and different packaging and accessories (e.g. the shoe horn used is from previous stock).

9. Air Randy sells these units in July and September online to us, sneaker afficianados, which is the same timeline at the production time at the factory. THUS out in the streets months in advance of the official release date.

10. Once the OEM finished the order and shipped the 1000 units, they can be greedy and sell the TECH PACKS and SAMPLE to the counterfeit industry.

11. JB received the 1000 units in the warehouse in October. Looks for any potential outlet B-Grade units then distribute the remainder to the retailers for the Dec 2011 Holiday release.

Don’t be naïve to think that the Triads etc are not a part of this. They do in the Black Market but they are keeping an eye at the Grey Market as well.


NIKE SHOULD DO SOMETHING!

NOPE! This is the tradeoff for Nike outsourcing their intellectual property to countries with little or even no regard to patents/trademarks, brand protection and lax labour practices in the name of maximizing profits.

At the end of the day, Nike is not pursuing the Grey Market Merchants of the sneaker world like Air Randys and Marqueesoles. WHY?

1. It hardly put a dent on the $$$ billions gross sale profit of Nike

2. Sneakers worn out in the street months in advance of the release are UNPAID PUBLICITY and MARKETING. Nike is really a marketing company as well.


SO ARE THEY GOOD OR BAD?

These sneaker merchants see a market for these grey sneakers and they capitalise on it. It wise business move I say because if Air Randy dont, someone else will. If they stay in the grey market then IMO its all good but if they are doing counterfeiting then HATE HATE.

Again it really is a fine line. In the end we THE CONSUMER WINS because WE HAVE A CHOICE. However its CAVEAT EMPTOR. Let the buyer beware. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

 

[jlibron11]

thats 100%  real

 

[knights23]

The proof is not on me to show bro.. Its on you GM zombies that will pay $200+ for knock offs.. I know mine is legit..I guess your idea of identical and mine are just not the same... That fat drunk child rapist at the mall in Dec. looks like santa clause too..

Just open your mind and think logically.. Do you really think a billion dollar enterprise like Nike dosent know how much material they have around etc? Do you think they would just stand by and let ALL of this product(MONEY) be made right under their noses? Honestly I dont think so... Its not the EXACT materials.. Its just close(cheaper).. Its not the same factory; just close..but with less standards thats why the quality and look of GMs are exactly that..CLOSE...Much better knock offs than in the past for sure ill give you that.. But still not legit. People can tell man although you cant..  

You dont even own a pair so please stop giving advice on things you do not know.

 

[shoegamenutz]

You dont even own a pair so please stop giving advice on things you do not know.

Lol I know right dude talks mad stuff but ain't even got a pair. But it's okay he has seen fakes smh.

 

[timmybrixxx]

You dont even own a pair so please stop giving advice on things you do not know.

why would i own a fake pair of kicks.. just not my style homie..

 

[timmybrixxx]

Lol I know right dude talks mad stuff but ain't even got a pair. But it's okay he has seen fakes smh.

bro i live right off south st in Philly.. trust me when i say Ive seen every fake imaginable. even the good ones like yours..

 

[shoegamenutz]

bro i live right off south st in Philly.. trust me when i say Ive seen every fake imaginable. even the good ones like yours..

Why you say like mine every shoe I own is retail. But I also Believe GM is Legit if you got the same materials how are they not.

 

[shoegamenutz]

bro i live right off south st in Philly.. trust me when i say Ive seen every fake imaginable. even the good ones like yours..

Everyone has a opinion weather GM is real or fake but when it boils down to it. It's up to the consumer to decide weather they believe they are real or fake and want to cop or not.

But IMO they have same materials they are same shoes just unauthorized.

But no one will ever know unless you work for Nike or your in china working in the factory your self.

Read the post above that I posted and scroll down to grey market area and read everything below.

 

[knights23]

why would i own a fake pair of kicks.. just not my style homie..

YOUR STYLE IS NOT TO OWN ANY PAIRS GREY OR RD 

THIS IS A COPY OF MY RECIEPT FROM RD FOR THE BREDS. I told you I just ordered my first pair of greys when they arrive I will post for you to tell which is real and which is grey.

 

[shoegamenutz]

YOUR STYLE IS NOT TO OWN ANY PAIRS GREY OR RD 

THIS IS A COPY OF MY RECIEPT FROM RD FOR THE BREDS. I told you I just ordered my first pair of greys when they arrive I will post for you to tell which is real and which is grey.

Can't wait for that lmao.

 

[timmybrixxx]

Why you say like mine every shoe I own is retail. But I also Believe GM is Legit if you got the same materials how are they not.

ok so send me proof yours are a legit DS RD pair of whatever and ill buy a DS grey market pair like them and we will trade even up? Cool?