Legit Check for Adidas The Kobe 3s, rare!

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I won this pair from a trusted seller on eBay. I made the payment and he delivered the shoes.

Now I doubt the shoes are not legit and wish I could return the shoes and get a refund. However, the seller and I have different understandings about theshoes, so we decide to post the shoes here and let ppl here help us to come up with an agreement.

P.S. I have not problem with the seller and his reputation. Just let the shoes speak.

TheBay page:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=170329341318

We can see the title says "ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE DS SZ 10 VERY RARE! ", means these are sample shoes. Also inside with detailed descriptions, it stillsays: "...DS ADIDAS KOBE 6 SAMPLE..." and "RARE UNRELEASED SHOE" at last. This is so rare and that why I paid the seller $425 with BIN.






Ok, above are the pictures. Welcome opinions from everyone.

Below are my opinions.

As we can not find another pair of Kobe 3s of the same model, I hope that we do legit checks based on two basic policies:

1. Fakes do not have tags like authentic shoes have.
2. Shoes' tags under a same brand should follow same basic instinctions, even if they are not of a same model.

1)lets get started with the inside shoe tags.

Note: the picture in the middle is the tag of the shoes I got from the seller. The other pictures are the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE. I set these twoas reference as they are made by same factory (FTY No. CUL 600) and in pretty much the same year.

Here are the links for the Kobe Two and The Kobe 2002 final PE.
The Kobe 2002 Final PE and TheKobe two

As far as I know, the tags of the Kobe 3s (refers as "The shoes")I've got have many problems that indicate these shoes may not be authentic:

1 The shoes have bar code on the inside shoe tag. But NO other shoes in the meantime have bar code. The Kobe Twos do not have it, nether does The Kobe 02 FinalPE Sample. Please see picture 1.

2 The shoes have a date on the tag says "11/01" which indicates the shoes are made in Nov, 2001. However, I personally have a pair of Kobe Twos,which are made in "10/01", that is, in Otc, 2001. So it means that adidas made the Kobe Two and Three at pretty much the same time. This does notmake any sense to me. Do you think Nike make Lebron 6s and 7s at the same time? I mean it makes sense if adidas came up with the Kobe 3 Samples while The KobeTwo was under massive production, but there can't be massive production of shoes of two generations at a same time. Remember, the shoes are regular productnot samples. Please see Picture 2

3 The sizing chart is ridiculous.
a. Under JP standard it can't be 289 (mm). It could be 285 or 290, but 289 does not make sense. This number ends in, and only in 5 or 0.
b. If this is US 10, then it should also be in FR 44 and JP 280. But your shoes says US 10 but FR 45 and JP 289(or 298). Another exception? Check out anofficial link below and pay attention to US 10. see the rest numbers.

Adidas Sizing Chart(From SportsAuthority)
c. Even 289 is all right, the hang-tag reads 298. This shoe is not sure of itself.... Or can we just regard it as an acceptable mistake? Do we see things likethis on other shoes?


In short, there are no other adidas shoes have a tag like the pair I got . If you still have questions, please go to the link below, in which you will seeadidas tag of all kind and all years. See if you may find one like yours. This is a legit check site in Chinese, but you don't have to read, just look atall the pictures.
adidas inside shoe tags of all kinds of all time

Another problem is the ankle panel is not matching.


2) The only authentic Kobe 3s' I have ever seen carry Hug System which is used in adidas T-Mac 4s'.
Authentic Kobe3 Samples carrying Hug System
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--->look at the shoe on the left, pay attention to itsrear. The handle can be pulled out.

3) The name of the shoes. I believe these shoes should be named as "The Kobe 3" or "The Kobe Three", as previous models are named as"The Kobe" and "The Kobe Two"

"The Kobe Six" does not make sense. Maybe if we count in EQT KB8 I~3 and The Kobe and The Kobe two, this is the 6th pair of Kobe shoes. But theyshould still be named after the Kobe and The Kobe Two as The Kobe Three.
EQT KB and The Kobe are two series under Kobe Brand, they are not different.

Like Iverson's shoes with RBK, he has Answers from 1to 12, and also Questions from 1 to 3. But Question 3 can't be named as Answer 12s....




 
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Please let me know your ideas....

I know it's too much reading....

you could just look at the pictures if you like.
 

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DUDE.......FROM ALL THE INFO YOU PROVIDED, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THE SHOES ARE FAKE! I MEAN COME ON............THESES TOO MANY FLAW!
 
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The problem is overall is that it is a sample there are $#$# ups and whatnot, the quality on them are pretty dam good it makes me doubt they are fake
 
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WRONG SIZE !! They are not legit at all for me I say that they are a good fake too LOL
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisShouraisei

The problem is overall is that it is a sample there are $#$# ups and whatnot, the quality on them are pretty dam good it makes me doubt they are fake
Thats what I say. These shoes are made too well to be fakes. Tags are legit. Size differences happen all the time when it comes to quicklyreleased shoes. These shoes are rare to begin with, so it would be hard to tell if they were fake or not. I think your best bet is to see if there are fakeslying around online (i.e. ebay) or ask B.O.P (http://www.bopvi.com/2008/03/more-shoes.html)he's got a pair of kobe 3's
 
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Originally Posted by ObiWonGinobili

Originally Posted by ChrisShouraisei

The problem is overall is that it is a sample there are $#$# ups and whatnot, the quality on them are pretty dam good it makes me doubt they are fake
Thats what I say. These shoes are made too well to be fakes. Tags are legit. Size differences happen all the time when it comes to quickly released shoes. These shoes are rare to begin with, so it would be hard to tell if they were fake or not. I think your best bet is to see if there are fakes lying around online (i.e. ebay) or ask B.O.P (http://www.bopvi.com/2008/03/more-shoes.html) he's got a pair of kobe 3's
too well to be fake?



Everything I said, I have eveidence to support my argument.
Please answer my questions with profs:
1) How can you tell they are "Quick Release"? Why was adidas in a hurry? Give me evidence.
2) Look at the above picture please. How to explain? Please don't tell me that's perfect. I understand sometimes authentic shoes are not well build.But please take back your word as this pair is "TOO WELL To BE FAKE". This pair definately have problems.
3) When you say "The tag is legit", please give your reasons. Like if I say it's fake, I will have to tell you why. I can't accept yourexcuse as "Wrong Size happen all the time". If so, there will be no point to do legit check on inside shoe tags. Because Fake dealers can alwayssay"Oh, the tag has something wrong, but they are real. Authentic shoes have problems all the time."
4) Talking about rare, The "The Kobe 2002 Final Game issued PE", created at pretty much the same time as my pair, is way more rare. Remember this isa regular released pair, but the NBA final PE is not released ever! But the tag of the NBA Final PE has things in comman with other adidas shoes. Like thesize, the font and everything. The Kobe Two, The Kobe 2002 Final Game issued PE and the Kobe 3(or 6s') above are made by a same factory (FTY NO. CLU 600),at pretty much the same time. How come the other shoes have no problem?





I did my homework about why and how come that Adidas Kobe 3s was dead before it had a chance to release. please take a look:

4)The Kobe 3s are dead not because of the Colorado Case; Kobe stopped his cooperation with adidas by himself.

"Nike declined to disclose terms of the deal or possible plans for a Bryant signature shoe or apparel line. Bryant paid $8million to get out of hissix-year contract with Adidas Salomon about a year ago........"-------Sportsbusiness.com
http://www.sportbusiness.com/news/151608/now-nike-signs-up-kobe

This is the news in June 24 2003. In fact it's 6 days before the Colorado Case which happened in July 1st. Poor Nike....

Long before the Eagle county insident, Kobe deside not to re-new his contract with adidas, which stopped toward the end of 2002 season. Right after Kobe wonthe 3rd NBA title, he begun to wear other brand, and the first was Nike Air Force 1 white/orange. He wore that to play a street ball game in NYC.

http://www.insidehoops.com/streetball-kobe-bryant-rucker-park-071802.shtml ------>this is the news, look at the date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzYnW5r0fHU ----->this is the video, look at Kobe's feet. That is a pair of NikeAir Force 1 mid.

Therefore, the right consequences are like:
Kobe refused to re-new the contract (toward the ending of 2002 NBA Final)----->Adidas had to cancel the Kobe Three Project(at the beginning of the 02~03 NBAseason)------>Colorado Case (July, 1st 2003)

It's not like what you mentioned:
Colorado Case (July, 1st 2003)----->Adidas had to cancel the Kobe Three Project(at the beginning of the 02~03 NBA season)-------->adidas stoppedcooperation with Kobe. (2002)
This way, adidas even didn't have a chance to lanch the Kobe 3S.
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisShouraisei

The problem is overall is that it is a sample there are $#$# ups and whatnot, the quality on them are pretty dam good it makes me doubt they are fake

This is not a sample please. Look at the tag, this is only a regular product.



A sample has "Sample" printed in the tag and also inside the shoes. Look at the following pictures. That will be a sample. But not the pair I got.






Also please look at the picture below.

I wish you then you can take back what you said sa the qulity is pretty good. I understand sometimes even authentic shoes have poor qulity. But anyway, thispair has poor quality.

If you insist that this pair has 'dam good quality' when the ankle support panel of two shoes are not matching. Then I don't know what to say.

Lastly, please look at what people say at !**#+@$#$%@%+.com
http://!**#+@$#$%@%+.com/forums/legit-check-on-adidas-kobe-3s-rare-t938114.html
 
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Those are fake
Adidas never released this model. Only a few samples are made.
These shoes are not samples but have regular tags, it's enough to say that they are fakes.
 
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This shoe was never released. Only a few size 9 samples were ever made. The contract dispute between Kobe & adidas prevented these from ever seeing thelight of day as far as retail goes.
 
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The one that was sold by Jonnygotdeals on ebay are REAL 100% they have alot of fakes that where out between that time but the ones sold are real.....what afrigin deal
 
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The blue one looks like a penis. And around that time, he was charged with rape right? hehehe....
 
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Definitely fake.

The seller has also made up some "facts".
PULLED OFF SHELVES RIGHT WHEN KOBE GOT INTO THE COLORADO INCIDENT.


4-6 years ago ebay was absolutely flooded with these things (fakes) in a bunch of different colourways. Some had the adidas "tag" on them; they weregoing for dirt cheap.

Best of luck obtaining your $500.
 
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these are hella fake, adidas never released the kobe three if you want to see a REAL sample maybe you can get sarteaga to bust his samples out for you.
 
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agreed pooky lol...
and im not sure i can tell/go either way with this one...
you provide very legit points..i guess thats my best input
 
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