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Legit Check Jordan 1 unc off white
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These look fake to me.
The wings logo seems too small. The perforations could be better. The zip tie does not look right. StockX tag is normally not placed there, I am pretty sure these are not from StockX. There are still pen marks at the tail end of the swoosh.
The wings logo seems too small. The perforations could be better. The zip tie does not look right. StockX tag is normally not placed there, I am pretty sure these are not from StockX. There are still pen marks at the tail end of the swoosh.
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You are incorrect. These are 100% fake.
They have pen marks on the suede as I stated before, that is an clear sign that they are fake. The fake pair you bought also had this and I explained the reason to you in your original thread here: https://niketalk.com/threads/lc-aj1-ow-unc-10us.680925/#post-31432832 Fakes don't use the same material as an authentic pair. They may get something close but not exact materials. The date on the tags don't really matter either, that is not really used to authenticate a pair because any fake factory can print any real manufacturing dates on the tag. I still believe that the wings logo posted on the pair above is a bit too small for a size 10.5.
For reference here is a size 10.5 retail pair from someone on reddit:
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The exact same size as the one posted on this thread, but the wings logo size is noticeable in my opinion.
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I am sorry but what ever argument you are trying to make is still invalid. It’s great that you are taking the initiative to educate yourself in authenticating a pair of Off-White UNC’s and I encourage you to help others when you learn more. I’m not denying that these are good fakes, but they are still fake nonetheless. The pen marks on the suede of fakes is a known problem in the replica community. I have never seen this on an authentic pair nor do I have any reason to believe that it does happen, show me one pair that you know is authentic that has pen marks from the factory. The fake pair that you have has pen marks, take a look at the suede on your pair and you will see the marks, which helps prove my point. Hopefully you don’t believe that your pair is real because it is not.
“A small logo that will be on the small size” yes, this is true, a small wings logo would be on a small size, but this is not a small size. Statistically it is possible that this would happen as a Nike factory error because these had a high standard deviation and high production when compared to the other two colorways. I have seen a lot of variation in these pairs, just take a look at the Jordan 1 Off-White thread, and so there is a very small chance that a pair may end up with a smaller wings logo but that does not prove authenticity.
As for the pictures and video that you posted, all of them seem irrelevant to the this conversation, I am not sure what point you are trying to make. That video is from September, fakes have improved their batches over those past 6 months. The top tier fakes are not flimsy any more, they have better wings logo, and the stitching holes have improved. I don’t know when those pictures were taken but they are only comparing one fake batch to the dozens that exist and only show one authentic pair. None of them account for the factory flaws and variations that normally occur in these sneakers which comes from looking at many of these sneakers.
“A small logo that will be on the small size” yes, this is true, a small wings logo would be on a small size, but this is not a small size. Statistically it is possible that this would happen as a Nike factory error because these had a high standard deviation and high production when compared to the other two colorways. I have seen a lot of variation in these pairs, just take a look at the Jordan 1 Off-White thread, and so there is a very small chance that a pair may end up with a smaller wings logo but that does not prove authenticity.
As for the pictures and video that you posted, all of them seem irrelevant to the this conversation, I am not sure what point you are trying to make. That video is from September, fakes have improved their batches over those past 6 months. The top tier fakes are not flimsy any more, they have better wings logo, and the stitching holes have improved. I don’t know when those pictures were taken but they are only comparing one fake batch to the dozens that exist and only show one authentic pair. None of them account for the factory flaws and variations that normally occur in these sneakers which comes from looking at many of these sneakers.
Fakes have gotten pretty good at size labels. Some of the old fakes did not melt the tags well enough but that is usually not the case all the time anymore with the new fakes. Real pairs generally should have size labels that are nicely melted into the shoe and they can have a square embossing around the label like the picture you provided, but it does not need this embossing, that is a common misconception. Fakes can have the embossing also.
Different types of authentic size tags:
Fake size tags:
The melting of the border on this one is already ok and this is not a good fake.
This size label is not so good, but they tried to replicate the embossing already.
The authentic pair of size 10.5 that I posted above has slightly thicker lines in some areas around the ball, some can be slightly smudged as well. Normally most pair pairs have a gap between the ball, unlike the real pair in the FvR photo you posted above, but a thin line gap does happen as well as shown in that photo. What should not normally happen in an authentic wings logo is thick lines between the Horizontal lines of the wings and on all the lines of the ball as shown in the fake picture of the FvR photo. Authentic pairs can and do have bigger gaps in the curved lines that separate the wings.
The stitching holes also do vary in size in authentic pairs. Some are smaller then others, but generally they should not be tiny like the the fakes in the picture you provided. They should follow a zigzag pattern with good even spacing between them. Some fakes have large spacing or the spacing between holes varies by location which should not normally happen.
Here is an album showing you how the wings logo can look and how the holes around the ankle vary in size:
I’m not sure what the last picture is referring to, if it’s the color of the suede then it usually varies in shades of blue. If the picture is referring to the thickness, then fakes are not flimsy anymore. They are using thicker cuts of leather. If it is referring to the fibers of the suede then this is wrong, some authentic pairs of Off Whites have flaps with very large fibers of suede, like the pair from Undefeated's Instagram post above.
The UV test is a good one to perform in fakes because I don’t think any fake would pass that test. I believe places like Flight Club and Stadium Goods use it to authenticate shoes. But this has nothing to do with your argument because this pair does not have any photos showing the UV test. From what I have seen a UV test would also should you the pen marks on the suede of the shoe, you should try that on your fake pair and see.
This pair is an authentic pair from flight club, the user did a UV test and the orange tabs do not have to glow as much as it is shown in those photos that you posted.
In this photo you can see the pen marks, I highlighted some in yellow:
Different types of authentic size tags:
Fake size tags:
The melting of the border on this one is already ok and this is not a good fake.
This size label is not so good, but they tried to replicate the embossing already.
The authentic pair of size 10.5 that I posted above has slightly thicker lines in some areas around the ball, some can be slightly smudged as well. Normally most pair pairs have a gap between the ball, unlike the real pair in the FvR photo you posted above, but a thin line gap does happen as well as shown in that photo. What should not normally happen in an authentic wings logo is thick lines between the Horizontal lines of the wings and on all the lines of the ball as shown in the fake picture of the FvR photo. Authentic pairs can and do have bigger gaps in the curved lines that separate the wings.
The stitching holes also do vary in size in authentic pairs. Some are smaller then others, but generally they should not be tiny like the the fakes in the picture you provided. They should follow a zigzag pattern with good even spacing between them. Some fakes have large spacing or the spacing between holes varies by location which should not normally happen.
Here is an album showing you how the wings logo can look and how the holes around the ankle vary in size:
I’m not sure what the last picture is referring to, if it’s the color of the suede then it usually varies in shades of blue. If the picture is referring to the thickness, then fakes are not flimsy anymore. They are using thicker cuts of leather. If it is referring to the fibers of the suede then this is wrong, some authentic pairs of Off Whites have flaps with very large fibers of suede, like the pair from Undefeated's Instagram post above.
The UV test is a good one to perform in fakes because I don’t think any fake would pass that test. I believe places like Flight Club and Stadium Goods use it to authenticate shoes. But this has nothing to do with your argument because this pair does not have any photos showing the UV test. From what I have seen a UV test would also should you the pen marks on the suede of the shoe, you should try that on your fake pair and see.
This pair is an authentic pair from flight club, the user did a UV test and the orange tabs do not have to glow as much as it is shown in those photos that you posted.
In this photo you can see the pen marks, I highlighted some in yellow:
I am not sure what batch the UNC's in this thread, but here are some top fakes that I found, better ones probably exist:
https://imgur.com/a/TOSq:nerd:k
https://imgur.com/a/F2h3TnJ#L5hFzYc
Fakes shoes of the size labels posted above:
https://imgur.com/a/B78zvLE
https://imgur.com/a/wVy2JXg
Authentic Pairs:
From Flight Club:
https://imgur.com/a/WjOnh1i#NNfCkpY
From Goat, Used:
https://imgur.com/a/z4zlQiq
From StockX:
https://imgur.com/gallery/2v7PstP#vLmU8az
Fake vs retail:
https://imgur.com/a/SYUJq6V#hcVkovL
https://imgur.com/a/TOSq:nerd:k
https://imgur.com/a/F2h3TnJ#L5hFzYc
Fakes shoes of the size labels posted above:
https://imgur.com/a/B78zvLE
https://imgur.com/a/wVy2JXg
Authentic Pairs:
From Flight Club:
https://imgur.com/a/WjOnh1i#NNfCkpY
From Goat, Used:
https://imgur.com/a/z4zlQiq
From StockX:
https://imgur.com/gallery/2v7PstP#vLmU8az
Fake vs retail:
https://imgur.com/a/SYUJq6V#hcVkovL
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Unfortunately
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StudentDriver
is right, wings logo is too small for that size shoe. Here’s a pic of my pair
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