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Shocking....just SHOCKING...
Via Deadspin:
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NBA statistician admits teams really do fudge stats
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Not really that shocking, everybody especially with assists, Magic Johnson and John Stockton when they played at home got the benefit of the doubt with many"assists".
That kind of stuff happens less now because, there are way more people and different services keeping track.
That kind of stuff happens less now because, there are way more people and different services keeping track.
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There is also league pressure to protect/enhance the stats of the elite players. For example, I would guess that Stockton got between 1 and 2 assists per game for free. Partly because I disagreed with the blatant stat manipulation (that I did) and partly because I'm a Laker fan, I gave Nick Van Exel like 23 assists one game. If he was vaguely close to a guy making a shot, I found a way to give him an assist.
and he proceeded to glare at me for about a minute (which is, imo, a really long time for a gigantic man to glare at you)
Mutombo gave him the finger.
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Its harder to do it now, with the amount of people keeping track.
Few months back I tried to track MJ's 63 point game in Boston Garden.
Points are easy of course to keep track of, but at the end, my assists, steals, and blocks were all off compared to the boxscore.
And that was IN Boston. I almost thought even they were tryna hype Mike up.
Either way, nowadays it's MUCH harder to get away with, maybe a board here, or a block there, but nothing earth shattering anymore.
Points are easy of course to keep track of, but at the end, my assists, steals, and blocks were all off compared to the boxscore.
And that was IN Boston. I almost thought even they were tryna hype Mike up.
Either way, nowadays it's MUCH harder to get away with, maybe a board here, or a block there, but nothing earth shattering anymore.
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we all saw how they tried to give lebong a triple double last season at the garden.
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Originally Posted by CP1708
Few months back I tried to track MJ's 63 point game in Boston Garden.
Points are easy of course to keep track of, but at the end, my assists, steals, and blocks were all off compared to the boxscore.
And that was IN Boston. I almost thought even they were tryna hype Mike up.
Either way, nowadays it's MUCH harder to get away with, maybe a board here, or a block there, but nothing earth shattering anymore.
What'd you end up with compared to the reported stats?
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Hmmm I'm gonna say it, Bron gets the benefit.
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*%$+ Stats.
Rings Matter.
Rings Matter.
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hes not hating...its the truthOriginally Posted by nightruans
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I know the Mavs scorekeepers cheated the %##* out of Josh Smith that game when he "only" had 9 blocks. He had no less than 14. I don't know howthey would even explain away ont counting some of them blocks, I guess they'd just say they were steals or even deflections for which there would be nostatistical notation of at all.
Assists are obviously the most subjective because of continuity, it comes down to in the scorer's mind if the pass helped you score or not. If you catchand shoot in rhythm, well that's pretty much a no brainer. But what if you catch, pump fake and escape dribble left one step, then shoot? Some scorerswould count that an assist still, some would say the offensive player made that play too much on his own. It's the same with outlet passes and avoiding onedefender at some point
Assists are obviously the most subjective because of continuity, it comes down to in the scorer's mind if the pass helped you score or not. If you catchand shoot in rhythm, well that's pretty much a no brainer. But what if you catch, pump fake and escape dribble left one step, then shoot? Some scorerswould count that an assist still, some would say the offensive player made that play too much on his own. It's the same with outlet passes and avoiding onedefender at some point
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not this time...ben wallets and scorers tried to but Stern took away his triple double.
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shocking. just shocking.
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This isn't all too surprising to me. I kind of knew this was going on in the NBA. I mean look at the "10th" rebound LeBron got during that Knicksgame?
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without a doubt
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NFL is proably the worse at it tho
Originally Posted by 5am6oody72
Originally Posted by CP1708
Few months back I tried to track MJ's 63 point game in Boston Garden.
Points are easy of course to keep track of, but at the end, my assists, steals, and blocks were all off compared to the boxscore.
And that was IN Boston. I almost thought even they were tryna hype Mike up.
Either way, nowadays it's MUCH harder to get away with, maybe a board here, or a block there, but nothing earth shattering anymore.
What'd you end up with compared to the reported stats?
If I remember right, I was like a steal short, and maybe 2 assists short and 1 rebound short of what they had. But in fairness, some of those plays are hardto figure out who gets credit for what, and I had no way of knowing what they gave credit for......
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So does Kobe, CP3, D12, etc. I'm not sure what your point is.
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Not surprised at all.
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I thought they took lebrons 10th rebound away days later
