drake probably said some slick %%@$ to serena and she told common.....you know how [email protected]!%#@$ are...one thing a %%***%+ love is 2 n's fighting over her .....
I couldn't agree with this more. I understand if you like common and are a fan of his but everyone in here saying common is "a legend". I wouldn't go that far at all. Dude has had a nice career he has a grammy or two i think? (correct me if I am wrong) which says something. But he isn't a rap legend. I also think if you look at this from a subjective "battle rap" standpoint. His dis was weak. Ether is of course the bar for dis records, but even "Who got bodied" by royce going at mister FAB was 10000x harder then this dis. This is basically a verbal pillow fight. Common isn't "hard" or "a legend" and drake isn't either. Me sitting on my couch watching "She's just not that into you" drinking a nice pinot grigio is harder then this "beef".
Is was with you up until the bolded part... I'm far from an elitist (I can't stand em) but you need to do your homework on that one. He's spit recycled verses from songs as "freestyles" more than once. One in the same to me...
At the current state of the game, Common is the one coming into this with something to prove and something to gain. Drake responding gave Common a buzz. The "legend" element has already been addressed by Drake on his album--whether at Common or just in general:
I mean music is subjective to everyone. So my list of legends does not include common Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler [+] Spoiler Pun, Pac, Big, Jay, Nas, Big L, Raekwon, DMX, Lupe (yea i said it lol), Em, Rakim, NWA, the roots. A legend to me is someone that brought something new to me personally so take it for what it is. Common was never near my radar. His voice bored me his subject matter wasn't new to me, there are tons of rappers that "can spit" but making good music is a completely different story.
Theoretically...it is subjective. However...someone being considered a legend is a little less subjective. It would be like me saying Michael Jordan ISN'T a legend because I don't like MJ (Not true...just using an example). When it comes to being considered a legend...you have to account for the prestige, his place in the game, how revered he is by his peers, etc. Not just how YOU feel about the subject. I don't particularly care for KRS-One, but I'm not going to sit up and say he ISN'T a legend.
"Shawty wanna tell me secrets ’bout a rap _____ / I tell a _____ its more attractive when you hold it down" Ya'll REALLY think Serena has NOTHING to do with this? I mean what else honestly connects these two artists? I bet if Trey Songz was smashing, Common would come out with a "Trigga" diss...or if Nelly was rubbing one out over her tennis racket, common would release a St. Lunatic's version... But Drake is the top dog right now...AND he's smashing your girl ...excuse me...EX-girl...so now all of a sudden hes this, that and the other? Now common wants to act like he's the only version of "Hip Hop"? We have this debate all the time. The art form has changed since 1993 and this debate is getting tiring. The limitations on what is considered "Rap" or "hip hop" have expanded to cover a wider variety of music. It pisses rap elitists off to know that artists can rap....AND sing. Its harder for them to classify because it doesn't fit in their neat mold of what music should be in their eyes. I actually think Common IS a legend and his last album was pretty damn good...but hes reaching right now. I mean honestly, Common is better off directing that diss towards Kanye, someone who PIONEERED the style Drake was influenced by and embraced. But then again, Kanye probably didn't smash your ex-fiance..... Now I think its entirely cool Common wants to speak on the state of the game and how much its changed. Thats what old artists do. They long for the moments of yesteryear by rapping about nostalgia. It is what it is....but how are you going to diss the one guy who is single handedly influenced more by your own homie then act like he doesn't contribute to the artform as well. Thats weak. I could understand dissing even Flocka or Soulja Boy... But Drake? Come on son. Not even counting commercial success, Drake has contributed heavily to the artform without counting his singing. IF Drake decides to respond, and I really don't think he will because him and his team probably want to focus more things that will get them paid, not rap beef...I expect it to be lyrically more advanced and far more potent than what Common released. But he won't release anything that he doesn't think will shut Lonnie down. Remember, this guy has crafted his commercial presence better than almost any artist in years.
We're talking about a guy that got up on stage and SANG Destiny's Child "Say My Name".............with passion at that. I agree...awkward move... Kinda threw me off when I saw he did it for the first time...
After listening to their respective verses, I feel like Drake has won this sparring round. Common’s verse was very direct and included a few good lines, such as the “cling like you’re 18
Com & Serena had been split for a while before Drake got at her. I highly doubt this started over her.
I don't think it started OVER her...like how WWII didn't start OVER Jews being killed...but it had something to do with it... Do you see what I mean? I mean Common was about to MARRY this woman...A RAP ARTIST was about to GIVE UP THE SINGLE LIFE over this woman...an extremely public figure... I don't know about you, but feelings like that don't subside over merely a few weeks, especially given the sheer access to "life partners" someone like Common would have, if we're being honest here. Then imagine your ex-FIANCE dating some dude you think is corny, sings too much, lame etc... THEN Give him a mic and something wreckless might start flying out of your mouth with subtle/sub-conscious hate in your eyes. Just like Kanye and Amber Rose and other scorned lovers. Like since that ya'll broke up, NOW you want to start throwing people under the bus?
he broke up with her like 2 years ago almost. Drake started messing with her a few months ago. I would imagine that he was over it by then, but only Com knows
I mean music is subjective to everyone. So my list of legends does not include common Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler [+] Spoiler Pun, Pac, Big, Jay, Nas, Big L, Raekwon, DMX, Lupe (yea i said it lol), Em, Rakim, NWA, the roots. A legend to me is someone that brought something new to me personally so take it for what it is. Common was never near my radar. His voice bored me his subject matter wasn't new to me, there are tons of rappers that "can spit" but making good music is a completely different story. Wait... You place Lupe as a Legend but not Common?!?! A person 3 albums, the last of which was devoid of artistic integrity in is a Legend... But not the person who's responsible for ushering in the Chicago hip hop scene to the masses. Not the 1st person from The Crib who was really respected in the Hip Hop Scene bi coastal. Not the person who's over a decade in from dropping classic material and still dropping classic hip hop albums? I has a ton of confusion with this statement Furthermore I think most will agree that a Legend isn't about bringing something new to YOU its about bringing something new to the game and sustaining excellence throughout. That's something that Common has done since he dropped I Used To Love H.E.R. Yep I am sure there are people on your legends list that people don't agree with. Its music here the entire state of art is subjective. So yes Lupe a legend Common not a legend. But i enjoy reading everyone's views on this very good thread so far. Its a tough position for common since the majority of the younger crowd that loves drake see's this as "old man dissing drake to get a buzz". But if drake does rebuttal this i hope he sings it all. I would die if he either flips Hi Rihanna to Hi Serena or just does a whole R&B diss track to throw it in commons face. Like the softest diss ever. He prob won't respond though. And if he does he will prob try to dead it in interviews.