Niketalk Cooks, what products you using at home?

[djaward]

Im looking into buying new gear (Pans, pots and cooking gear).

Im stuck on Stainless steel and Non Stick.

Which is better?
What brand do you guys go with?
What pans do I really need I dont need?

Cast Iron, do I need one?

Knives, I want a nice chopping knife thats small and doesnt lose its sharpness after one use.

I was looking at the Emeril line for pots but found them to be more like bowls instead of cooking pans.


Please help me out. I really need new equipment. Want to spend no more than 300-400.

 

[da doc03]

copped this for the wife after we got our house.   Amazon product ASIN B000C239HW

 

[mondaynightraw]

wolfgang puck

 

[thadoctadvocate]

My dad bought some german knives for like hundreds of bucks and they are so sharp. Forgot the brand tho. Check marshalls and ross and tjmaxx they always have good pans n pots for cheap

 

[big j 33]

I went with non-stick for my first full set a couple years ago.

It wasn't this exact set, but it's the same brand and style Amazon product ASIN B001167VIQ
No complaints for me, really solid and can handle some abuse.

I also have one similar to this Amazon product ASIN B000EM9PTQ that is great for stir fry and the like

For knives, I'd say skip out on the huge block with a dozen knives and focus on one great chef's knife and a paring knife. I've been told you really only need these two knives (and maybe a bread knife) and in my cooking they're all I need as well.

Brands like Victorinox, Henckels, and Wusthof seem to be pretty popular and well regarded. If you can, I'd try to find them in store so you can hold them and see how they feel. A great knife won't do much good if you don't like holding it and it's not comfortable. Santoku knives are also pretty popular. I have a 5 inch Henckels santoku that I use often.

 

[mike honcho]

Dat Pyrex

 

[johnnyredstorm]

i love cooking.

 

[zekethephysique]

If you want high-end quality cookware that you can get on a budget then go with Emeril's line at Bed Bath & Beyond. It's made by All-Clad and they put out A+ products. I have the stainless steel set from them and it looks incredible and is very well-made. 

Hint: pick up a can of Bar Keepers Friend and your pans will look amazing for years.

The only non-stick you need is a single heavy 10in skillet for eggs, omelletes, etc. Just wipe it down after you use it.

A cast-iron skillet is awesome too, and they are cheap.

Knives: Don't buy a set. Invest in a good 8-10in Chefs knife. I have a Global... it's amazing and it looks great. Other than that you need a bread knife, boning knife, and a paring knife.

Victorinox makes Fibrox-handled that are incredible, I got my Victorinox bread knife and flex boning knife on Amazon. Go German with the pairing knife maybe a Wusthof Classic. You don't need any other knives. I use the bread knife and my chef knife for 90% of my cooking.  

Invest in a good cutting board. You'll look like you know what you're doing, it's good on your knives, and it looks great sitting on your kitchen counter. Boos Brothers makes incredible-looking products. 

I would recommend going online signing up at Bed Bath & Beyond for their 20% off coupon and using it for the chef knife, the cookware set. They'' send a coupon once a month so you can build up your collection and not get nailed so hard. 

 

[fresh out dabox]

i love cooking.

i need to learn. as far as cooking go i mix and add additional ingredients to oatmeal i guess thats a start.

 

[djyoung08]

P4L

 

[lazyj10]

All Clad stainless steel from Williams Sonoma.

We used to have non stick, but ultimately, this cooks better especially on our gas range.

Plus my wife had concerns on the nonstick in terms of cancer when it starts to get cut up, etc.

 

[ruxxx]

Dat Pyrex

I came in here to say this.

 

[aec23]

microwave

 

[djaward]

copped this for the wife after we got our house.   http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-77-17-Stainless-17-Piece-Cookware/dp/B000C239HW/ref=sr_1_3?s=kitchen&srs=2587949011&ie=UTF8&qid=1371757409&sr=1-3&keywords=cuisinart

Thanks, will definitely look into these items.

wolfgang puck

Will look into it. I saw some on that home shopping network and seem kinda steep.

I went with non-stick for my first full set a couple years ago.

It wasn't this exact set, but it's the same brand and style Amazon product ASIN B001167VIQ
No complaints for me, really solid and can handle some abuse.

I also have one similar to this Amazon product ASIN B000EM9PTQ that is great for stir fry and the like

For knives, I'd say skip out on the huge block with a dozen knives and focus on one great chef's knife and a paring knife. I've been told you really only need these two knives (and maybe a bread knife) and in my cooking they're all I need as well.

Brands like Victorinox, Henckels, and Wusthof seem to be pretty popular and well regarded. If you can, I'd try to find them in store so you can hold them and see how they feel. A great knife won't do much good if you don't like holding it and it's not comfortable. Santoku knives are also pretty popular. I have a 5 inch Henckels santoku that I use often.

Your set, is it oven safe? I like searing on the stove top then finishing off in the oven. Thanks for the info. I will look into the knives. Not looking to buy too many. Just enough to cut veggies and any type of meat.

If you want high-end quality cookware that you can get on a budget then go with Emeril's line at Bed Bath & Beyond. It's made by All-Clad and they put out A+ products. I have the stainless steel set from them and it looks incredible and is very well-made. 

Hint: pick up a can of Bar Keepers Friend and your pans will look amazing for years.

The only non-stick you need is a single heavy 10in skillet for eggs, omelletes, etc. Just wipe it down after you use it.

A cast-iron skillet is awesome too, and they are cheap.

Knives: Don't buy a set. Invest in a good 8-10in Chefs knife. I have a Global... it's amazing and it looks great. Other than that you need a bread knife, boning knife, and a paring knife.
Victorinox makes Fibrox-handled that are incredible, I got my Victorinox bread knife and flex boning knife on Amazon. Go German with the pairing knife maybe a Wusthof Classic. You don't need any other knives. I use the bread knife and my chef knife for 90% of my cooking.  

Invest in a good cutting board. You'll look like you know what you're doing, it's good on your knives, and it looks great sitting on your kitchen counter. Boos Brothers makes incredible-looking products. 

I would recommend going online signing up at Bed Bath & Beyond for their 20% off coupon and using it for the chef knife, the cookware set. They'' send a coupon once a month so you can build up your collection and not get nailed so hard. 

I saw the Emeril brand at Macys, I will look for it at BB&B. I bought an Emeril cast Iron thing at BB&B and returned it the next day. I cooked a rib eye on it and it was constantly flaming on me. The pan was low so everytime the grease jumped, the steak would flame. I saw that a lot of people use bar keepers thing. I need to look into it. The thing Im afraid of is ruining a nice pan because of how I clean it.

All Clad stainless steel from Williams Sonoma.

We used to have non stick, but ultimately, this cooks better especially on our gas range.

Plus my wife had concerns on the nonstick in terms of cancer when it starts to get cut up, etc.

Stainless steel cooks better or non stick?

 

[checks grossman]

Dat Pyrex

And a fork.

 

[bentrill]

shouts out to all da cookers, cooking dat 5 course meal. swag

 

[jdi23]

My mom has all clad, but I can't afford that so I went the stainless steel route. Once I get my money up all clad here I come.

 

[stickmandude]

If you're trying to save some money and want something similar to all-clad go with Tramontina.
Only sold at Wal-Mart unfortunately, if you don't have one in your area.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-8-Piece-Cookware-Set/5716478



http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/equipment-the-all-clad-vs-tramontina-skillet.html



Equipment: The All-Clad vs. Tramontina Skillet Showdown
J. Kenji López-Alt Aug 17, 2010
1:45 PM 63 Comments
Tags:

All-Clad
cookware
equipment
skillets
Tramontina

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Each week J. Kenji Lopez-Alt drops by with a tool you might want to stock your kitchen with. Kenji also writes The Food Lab column here on SE. You can follow him as The Food Lab on Facebook or on Twitter for play-by-plays on his future kitchen tests and recipe experiments. —The Mgmt.

View media item 462102
A good skillet is the primary pan used in any Western-style kitchen. It's used for everything from sauteeing vegetables to searing meat and reducing sauces. Along with a good saucepot, an 8-inch skillet and a 12-inch skillet should be the first pans in your kitchen's arsenal.

Most professionals would agree that All-Clad skillets are the cream of the crop. Made with two layers of heavy gauge stainless steel sandwiched around a core of aluminum, they offer the rapid heat distribution capabilities of aluminum (which leads to more even cooking), along with the weight, heat retention, and non-reactive properties of stainless steel. They combine the best of both worlds to create the ultimate cooking surface.

The problem is, the things are expensive. Real expensive. The classic series run around $100 per pan. Figure you need at least 5 pots and pans, and you're looking at almost half a K just to get your kitchen on its feet. That's where Tramontina comes in. Although the pans are sold exclusively through Walmart, they've been championed by home users and professionals alike as offering performance just as good as All-Clad, at a fraction of the price (try $150 for a 5 pan set!). They feature the same triple ply construction, the same basic dimensions, and the same sturdy riveted handles (welded handles have a tendency to fall off with use).

So what's the deal? Do they really perform as well as people say they do?

Fortunately, I have both All-Clad and Tramontina 8-inch skillets at home, so I decided to put them through their paces in a series of side-by-side tests.
Heat Distrubution

Neither gas nor electric burners give off heat evenly. Hot and cool spots are inevitable. It's the job of a good skillet to even these out as much as possible. It's the aluminum core in a clad pan that helps it do this. Heat travels very slowly through steel, but quite rapidly through aluminum. As soon as that core starts heating up, it quickly distributes the heat all around the base of the pan. At least, that's the idea.

In order to gauge their performance, I cut out circles of paper and weighted them down on the bottom of each pan, which I then placed over the same burner over medium heat until the paper started browning. The pattern of browning on the paper should be a good indication of the pattern of hot and cold spots in the pan.

View media item 462105
As you can see, both pans do a relatively good job. The black leopard spotting is distributed over the whole piece of paper, but the All-Clad does it better. Rather than having very dark and very light spots, the darkest darks are still medium brown, while the lightest lights are at least pale yellow. On the Tramontina, the dark spots are much more distinct, and the light spots are nearly white.

While this won't outright ruin a dish, it means that you'll have to stir the contents of your Tramontina pan a little more frequently than in the All-Clad.

All-Clad: Excellent heat distribution. Even browning with minimal stirring.
Tramontina: Good heat distribution. Relatively even browning, but frequent stirring is required.
Winner: The All-Clad is the clear winner here.

Heat Retention

There's nothing worse than preheating a skillet on a burner until it's smoking hot, then adding a couple of pork chops, only to have them end up slowly bubbling and steaming in their own juices instead of acquiring that perfect crust you were after. Why does this happen? Low heat retention.

View media item 462108
Let's say you've got your pan up to around 400°F—in the prim range for delivering maximum browning, which doesn't really begin to take place in earnest until food reaches around 300°F (149°C) or so. Now when you add cold food to this hot pan, the food saps energy from the pan. If your pan is thin, or made from a material with a really poor capacity for storing heat (known as a material's "mass-specific heat capacity," or "specific heat" for short), the temperature will rapidly drop to well below the ideal browning range. If, on the other hand, your pan is able to retain lots of energy (it has a high specific heat and a high mass), the temperature will remain high enough to sear.

Weight is generally a good indicator of how well a pan will retain heat, since for a given material, the amount of energy it can store is directly related to its mass. The Tramontina pan weighed in at 1 pound, 11 ounces, while the All-Clad was slightly lighter at 1 pound 9 ounces. However, some materials can hold more energy per unit mass than others. Depending on the relative ratios of aluminum and steel, their retention abilities could very. A little more testing was in order:

I placed both pans in a 350°F (177°C) oven for a full hour until they maintained a completely steady temperature of 335°F (168.3°C) as read by my laser thermometer. Traditionally, the next step would be to dump the pans into a well-insulated body of water and note the change in temperature of that water to gauge how much energy was stored in the metal. However, that would give me the capacity of the entire pan, and honestly, I don't care how well the handle or lips retain heat. I'm most interested in the cooking surfaces only.

Rather than dump the pans in water, I dumped water in the pans—1 pint of 60°F (15.6°C) water into each one—and waited for two minutes before measuring the change in temperature.

View media item 462111 All-Clad: 114.1°F (45.6°C) increase in two minutes. Weight: 1 pound, 9 ounces
Tramontina: 115°F (46.1°C) increase in two minutes.
Winner: Both pans are monsters in the field of searing, but Tramontina takes it (by a hair)

Speed

The speed at which a pan reacts to temperature changes is also important. For the most part, with sautee pans, you want this to be relatively slow. A pan that reacts too fast will lead to unevenly cooked food. Turn the knob a tiny bit to the right and before you know it, your onions are burnt. A pan that takes a long time to heat up may require a longer initial investment of time waiting until it's hot enough to sear your meat, but gentler heating and cooling cycles when adding ingredients or modifying the heat under the pan more than compensates for this initial investment in time.

Having cooked countless batches of onions, steaks, and other foods in both of these skillets, I've not noticed much difference in the way they react to heat. But in order to put a qualitative value on their speed, I needed a more precise measure: in the end I added 1 pint of water to each skillet at room temperature, placed them one at a time over the same burner at high heat for two minutes, then measured the change in temperature.

All-Clad: 91.4°F (33°C) increase in two minutes.
Tramontina: 101°F (38.3°C) increase in two minutes.
Winner: All-Clad

Miscellaneous

View media item 462112
There are other, less measurable characteristics that make for a good pan:

Sturdy construction that won't warp or crack even under rapid temperature changes.

Easy washability. Both the inside and outside surfaces should be easy to clean and robust enough to withstand a little elbow grease.

Balance. The pan should feel nice in your hand, making it easy to shift on and off the heat and easy to shake and flip.

Well-shaped sides that allow for flipping with minimal effort. This requires gentle curves and shallow sloping sides.

Riveted handles that will stay attached to the pan for as long as you are (hopefully a lifetime).

It must be able to make my dumplings nice and crispy*

*not to be confused with my Dumpling

Fortunately, both pans meet all five of these quality standards. I've used my All-Clad intensely for around 8 years, and my Tramontina set even more intensely for the last year. Neither show any signs of warping or damage.

So there you have it. While the Tramontina actually edges out the All-Clad as far as heat retention goes, the All-Clad is an all-around better performer. But is it worth paying three times as much for it? Not a chance. Only by using controlled quantitative tests could I find any difference at all in how the pans perform. Even then, the differences were minimal. If money is absolutely no object, go ahead and buy the All-Clad. For the rest of us, the Tramontina set should do just fine.

Also if you go the stainless steel route this is a must have:
View media item 462117

 

[big j 33]

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure the set I have is oven safe for like 350 degrees

 

[jdi23]

My mom has all clad, but I can't afford that so I went the stainless steel route. Once I get my money up all clad here I come.

 

[lazyj10]

Stainless steel (all clad in our case) definately cooks better than non-stick did. Partly due to our stove being gas (whirlpool gold).

Barkeepers friend is the truth.

 

[djaward]

If you're trying to save some money and want something similar to all-clad go with Tramontina.
Only sold at Wal-Mart unfortunately, if you don't have one in your area.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-8-Piece-Cookware-Set/5716478



http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/equipment-the-all-clad-vs-tramontina-skillet.html



Equipment: The All-Clad vs. Tramontina Skillet Showdown
J. Kenji López-Alt Aug 17, 2010
1:45 PM 63 Comments
Tags:

All-Clad
cookware
equipment
skillets
Tramontina

Print Favorite this! (13 )



Each week J. Kenji Lopez-Alt drops by with a tool you might want to stock your kitchen with. Kenji also writes The Food Lab column here on SE. You can follow him as The Food Lab on Facebook or on Twitter for play-by-plays on his future kitchen tests and recipe experiments. —The Mgmt.

View media item 462102
A good skillet is the primary pan used in any Western-style kitchen. It's used for everything from sauteeing vegetables to searing meat and reducing sauces. Along with a good saucepot, an 8-inch skillet and a 12-inch skillet should be the first pans in your kitchen's arsenal.

Most professionals would agree that All-Clad skillets are the cream of the crop. Made with two layers of heavy gauge stainless steel sandwiched around a core of aluminum, they offer the rapid heat distribution capabilities of aluminum (which leads to more even cooking), along with the weight, heat retention, and non-reactive properties of stainless steel. They combine the best of both worlds to create the ultimate cooking surface.

The problem is, the things are expensive. Real expensive. The classic series run around $100 per pan. Figure you need at least 5 pots and pans, and you're looking at almost half a K just to get your kitchen on its feet. That's where Tramontina comes in. Although the pans are sold exclusively through Walmart, they've been championed by home users and professionals alike as offering performance just as good as All-Clad, at a fraction of the price (try $150 for a 5 pan set!). They feature the same triple ply construction, the same basic dimensions, and the same sturdy riveted handles (welded handles have a tendency to fall off with use).

So what's the deal? Do they really perform as well as people say they do?

Fortunately, I have both All-Clad and Tramontina 8-inch skillets at home, so I decided to put them through their paces in a series of side-by-side tests.
Heat Distrubution

Neither gas nor electric burners give off heat evenly. Hot and cool spots are inevitable. It's the job of a good skillet to even these out as much as possible. It's the aluminum core in a clad pan that helps it do this. Heat travels very slowly through steel, but quite rapidly through aluminum. As soon as that core starts heating up, it quickly distributes the heat all around the base of the pan. At least, that's the idea.

In order to gauge their performance, I cut out circles of paper and weighted them down on the bottom of each pan, which I then placed over the same burner over medium heat until the paper started browning. The pattern of browning on the paper should be a good indication of the pattern of hot and cold spots in the pan.

View media item 462105
As you can see, both pans do a relatively good job. The black leopard spotting is distributed over the whole piece of paper, but the All-Clad does it better. Rather than having very dark and very light spots, the darkest darks are still medium brown, while the lightest lights are at least pale yellow. On the Tramontina, the dark spots are much more distinct, and the light spots are nearly white.

While this won't outright ruin a dish, it means that you'll have to stir the contents of your Tramontina pan a little more frequently than in the All-Clad.

All-Clad: Excellent heat distribution. Even browning with minimal stirring.
Tramontina: Good heat distribution. Relatively even browning, but frequent stirring is required.
Winner: The All-Clad is the clear winner here.

Heat Retention

There's nothing worse than preheating a skillet on a burner until it's smoking hot, then adding a couple of pork chops, only to have them end up slowly bubbling and steaming in their own juices instead of acquiring that perfect crust you were after. Why does this happen? Low heat retention.

View media item 462108
Let's say you've got your pan up to around 400°F—in the prim range for delivering maximum browning, which doesn't really begin to take place in earnest until food reaches around 300°F (149°C) or so. Now when you add cold food to this hot pan, the food saps energy from the pan. If your pan is thin, or made from a material with a really poor capacity for storing heat (known as a material's "mass-specific heat capacity," or "specific heat" for short), the temperature will rapidly drop to well below the ideal browning range. If, on the other hand, your pan is able to retain lots of energy (it has a high specific heat and a high mass), the temperature will remain high enough to sear.

Weight is generally a good indicator of how well a pan will retain heat, since for a given material, the amount of energy it can store is directly related to its mass. The Tramontina pan weighed in at 1 pound, 11 ounces, while the All-Clad was slightly lighter at 1 pound 9 ounces. However, some materials can hold more energy per unit mass than others. Depending on the relative ratios of aluminum and steel, their retention abilities could very. A little more testing was in order:

I placed both pans in a 350°F (177°C) oven for a full hour until they maintained a completely steady temperature of 335°F (168.3°C) as read by my laser thermometer. Traditionally, the next step would be to dump the pans into a well-insulated body of water and note the change in temperature of that water to gauge how much energy was stored in the metal. However, that would give me the capacity of the entire pan, and honestly, I don't care how well the handle or lips retain heat. I'm most interested in the cooking surfaces only.

Rather than dump the pans in water, I dumped water in the pans—1 pint of 60°F (15.6°C) water into each one—and waited for two minutes before measuring the change in temperature.

View media item 462111 All-Clad: 114.1°F (45.6°C) increase in two minutes. Weight: 1 pound, 9 ounces
Tramontina: 115°F (46.1°C) increase in two minutes.
Winner: Both pans are monsters in the field of searing, but Tramontina takes it (by a hair)

Speed

The speed at which a pan reacts to temperature changes is also important. For the most part, with sautee pans, you want this to be relatively slow. A pan that reacts too fast will lead to unevenly cooked food. Turn the knob a tiny bit to the right and before you know it, your onions are burnt. A pan that takes a long time to heat up may require a longer initial investment of time waiting until it's hot enough to sear your meat, but gentler heating and cooling cycles when adding ingredients or modifying the heat under the pan more than compensates for this initial investment in time.

Having cooked countless batches of onions, steaks, and other foods in both of these skillets, I've not noticed much difference in the way they react to heat. But in order to put a qualitative value on their speed, I needed a more precise measure: in the end I added 1 pint of water to each skillet at room temperature, placed them one at a time over the same burner at high heat for two minutes, then measured the change in temperature.

All-Clad: 91.4°F (33°C) increase in two minutes.
Tramontina: 101°F (38.3°C) increase in two minutes.
Winner: All-Clad

Miscellaneous

View media item 462112
There are other, less measurable characteristics that make for a good pan:

Sturdy construction that won't warp or crack even under rapid temperature changes.

Easy washability. Both the inside and outside surfaces should be easy to clean and robust enough to withstand a little elbow grease.

Balance. The pan should feel nice in your hand, making it easy to shift on and off the heat and easy to shake and flip.

Well-shaped sides that allow for flipping with minimal effort. This requires gentle curves and shallow sloping sides.

Riveted handles that will stay attached to the pan for as long as you are (hopefully a lifetime).

It must be able to make my dumplings nice and crispy*

*not to be confused with my Dumpling

Fortunately, both pans meet all five of these quality standards. I've used my All-Clad intensely for around 8 years, and my Tramontina set even more intensely for the last year. Neither show any signs of warping or damage.

So there you have it. While the Tramontina actually edges out the All-Clad as far as heat retention goes, the All-Clad is an all-around better performer. But is it worth paying three times as much for it? Not a chance. Only by using controlled quantitative tests could I find any difference at all in how the pans perform. Even then, the differences were minimal. If money is absolutely no object, go ahead and buy the All-Clad. For the rest of us, the Tramontina set should do just fine.

Also if you go the stainless steel route this is a must have:
View media item 462117

This was awesome. Question, do they make tramontina pans in non stick? Should I be looking for a non stick pan?

 

[shannonscrooks]

If it hasnt already been said, get da food processor.

 

[3am scholar]

Anolon.

 

[stickmandude]

This was awesome. Question, do they make tramontina pans in non stick? Should I be looking for a non stick pan?

They do make nonstick pans. You one only need one, 8" or 10" if you like to make eggs especially omelettes and fish. Nonstick makes things so much easier cooking those types of foods. If you like to cook a lot of steaks at home and don't want to fire up the grill then definitely get one cast iron pan like a Lodge cast iron skillet. Also it's excellent for pan frying fried chicken. They come pre-seasoned, but strongly recommend you season it yourself. The care on those is a bit different than other cookware, but still easy to care for. Plus they're inexpensive.