***$$$-NT Sportsbook Thread vol.2- Props props props props props props... EVERYBODY!

To get this going a little since I've read some folks having a little trouble picking the games this weekend.

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Bettors believe Drew Brees & Co. can't play two atrocious games in a row -- especially at home.
I'm proud of you. And you. And very, very proud of you, you, you and you. All of you degenerates out there have really impressed me.

Let me explain.

On Thursday afternoon I had a chat with legendary Vegas bookmaker Jimmy Vaccaro, who runs the Lucky's sports books in Nevada. I was quizzing him for the NFL line moves column and asked him why the Bills had gotten early money against the Chiefs. His answer, "The public might be getting smarter."

Gimme a minute to regroup. He said the public might be getting smarter! That's you, Pipeline Pete and Rich from Jersey and Attila and even you, older crazy lady who keeps sending me suggestive hints on Twitter.

Vaccaro continued: "You would think we made a killing on the San Diego Chargers last weekend because the public usually chases dominant teams. But that hasn't been the case this season. Same with the New Orleans Saints-Cleveland Browns last weekend. That game opened at 14 and, last season, by the weekend, that number might have been at 14.5. But it closed at 12. Which meant in the last couple hours before kickoff even the public was playing the Browns."

This has had an interesting impact on how wiseguys play their game, too. Remember, part of their strategy has always been anticipating what you, John Q. Public, will do in certain games. That helps them decide when to buy certain games. But this season, with the public not automatically laying high-profile favorites, the dogs are getting played much earlier than ever before.

And, well, that makes me very proud of all of you. So let's get to the line moves.

Matchup: Washington ******** at Detroit Lions
Line moves: Lions opened at minus-1, currently favored by 3.
Vaccaro says that means: "Stafford coming back and the ******** playing the second of back-to-back road games is why guys jumped on this. Plus, the Lions are the NFL's best against the spread this season. [Editor's note: Lions and Jets are an NFL-best 5-1.] I thought we would get early money on the Lions, and when you get games in the 1 and 1.5 category and get a limit bet you will skip over the 2 and go right to 3. We opened at 1 and took a big bet at 1.5 and it kept coming in dribs and drabs on the Lions. Now we have it at minus-3. We look for the point where wiseguys will buy back, and I think this is the number."

Matchup: Green Bay Packers at New York Jets
Line moves: Jets opened at minus-4.5, currently at minus-6.
Vaccaro says that means: "We opened at 4.5 and we took a small bet on the Jets at that number. I already favored New York so I moved it to 5.5. It's a dead zone and there's no reason to stop at 5 if you are already leaning one way. I kept it at 5.5 even when most other books were at 6 because I didn't want to move on air. When you're bookmaking sometimes you want to juggle the numbers so you can get a little action. Then I got a limit bet at minus-5.5 and moved it to 6. That is where it's painted right now."

Matchup: Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs
Line moves: Chiefs opened at minus-9, currently favored by 7.5.
Vaccaro says that means: "This is an interesting case, unique to this year. In the old days that wiseguys played the favorites early in the week because that's where the best value was. They waited on the dogs because the public tends to bet favorites, so those numbers might go up. This season, as soon as the sharps see a dog number, they take it. So when this opened at 9 it was gone almost immediately. Even though it's one of the better teams versus a bad team, they knew this would be the optimum number. It's a change in strategy from this season."

Matchup: Seattle Seahawks at Oakland Raiders
Line moves: Raiders opened at minus-1.5, currently at minus-2.5.
Vaccaro says that means: "Seattle is playing a lot better and [head coach Pete] Carroll has gotten this team competitive. But beating the Bears on the road isn't as impressive as it seemed two weeks ago. And you have to give the Raiders credit for the shellacking they laid on the Broncos. So that's why this jumped -- but remember, while it's a full point move, it doesn't take much to go from 1.5 to 2.5. And if this number does get to 3 you will immediately see some buyback from the sharps. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this closed close to where it opened, because the public still won't bet on the Raiders."

Matchup: Pittsburgh Steelers at New Orleans Saints
Line moves: Game opened at pick, Saints currently favored by one.
Vaccaro says that means: "I thought there would be a slam-dunk move on the Steelers early in the week. But there is the Aaron Smith injury. And there are also some other players who are less well-known but sharps know are valuable that are hurt right now. Combine that with the theory that bettors think the Saints can't play two horrendous games in a row, especially at home. For what it's worth, I'm not convinced of that. We had their Super Bowl future odds longer than most other books before the season started."

 

Pick center on ESPN.

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This Week's Games

Game	AccuScore	TeamRankings.com	Line
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	OKST 36.6 KSU 27.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win OKST Cover KSU More Info	5.0
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	MIA 32.1 UVA 21.2 More Info | Simulate It	Win MIA Cover UVA More Info	14.5
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	TENN 19 SCAR 35 More Info | Simulate It	Win SCAR Cover SCAR More Info	-17.5
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	MSU 20.7 IOWA 31 More Info | Simulate It	Win IOWA Cover IOWA More Info	-6.5
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	ARIZ 32.4 UCLA 20.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win ARIZ Cover ARIZ More Info	9.0
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	MIZZ 21.2 NEB 31.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win NEB Cover MIZZ More Info	-7.5
@ Oct 30, 6 PM ET	AUB 35.9 MISS 29.5 More Info | Simulate It	Win AUB Cover MISS More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	UK 27.7 MSST 30.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win MSST Cover UK More Info	-6.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	VAN 19.4 ARK 36.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win ARK Cover ARK More Info	-20.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	BAY 23.4 TEX 32.8 More Info | Simulate It	Win TEX Cover BAY More Info	-7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	STAN 38 WASH 26.8 More Info | Simulate It	Win STAN Cover WASH More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	UTAH 32.4 AFA 21.7 More Info | Simulate It	Win UTAH Cover UTAH More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 8 PM ET	ORE 37.7 USC 26.9 More Info | Simulate It	Win ORE Cover USC More Info	6.5
@ Oct 30, 8 PM ET	OSU 41.7 MINN 12.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win OSU Cover OSU More Info	25.5
@ Oct 30, 9 PM ET	COLO 16.5 OKLA 41.5 More Info | Simulate It	Win OKLA Cover OKLA More Info	-23.5
@ Oct 30, 10 PM ET	USU 21 NEV 43.3 More Info | Simulate It	Win NEV Cover NEV More Info	-26.0
@ Oct 30, 11 PM ET	TCU 48.6 UNLV 10.3 More Info | Simulate It	Win TCU Cover UNLV More Info	34.5
@ Final: 20 - 49	LT 13.6 BSU 54.9 More Info | Simulate It	Win BSU Cover BSU More Info	-37.0
@ Final: 24 - 28	FSU 33.7 NCST 27.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win FSU Cover FSU More Info	4.0

 

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This Week's Games

Game	AccuScore	TeamRankings.com	Line
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	OKST 36.6 KSU 27.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win OKST Cover KSU More Info	5.0
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	MIA 32.1 UVA 21.2 More Info | Simulate It	Win MIA Cover UVA More Info	14.5
@ Oct 30, 12 PM ET	TENN 19 SCAR 35 More Info | Simulate It	Win SCAR Cover SCAR More Info	-17.5
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	MSU 20.7 IOWA 31 More Info | Simulate It	Win IOWA Cover IOWA More Info	-6.5
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	ARIZ 32.4 UCLA 20.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win ARIZ Cover ARIZ More Info	9.0
@ Oct 30, 3 PM ET	MIZZ 21.2 NEB 31.6 More Info | Simulate It	Win NEB Cover MIZZ More Info	-7.5
@ Oct 30, 6 PM ET	AUB 35.9 MISS 29.5 More Info | Simulate It	Win AUB Cover MISS More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	UK 27.7 MSST 30.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win MSST Cover UK More Info	-6.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	VAN 19.4 ARK 36.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win ARK Cover ARK More Info	-20.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	BAY 23.4 TEX 32.8 More Info | Simulate It	Win TEX Cover BAY More Info	-7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	STAN 38 WASH 26.8 More Info | Simulate It	Win STAN Cover WASH More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 7 PM ET	UTAH 32.4 AFA 21.7 More Info | Simulate It	Win UTAH Cover UTAH More Info	7.0
@ Oct 30, 8 PM ET	ORE 37.7 USC 26.9 More Info | Simulate It	Win ORE Cover USC More Info	6.5
@ Oct 30, 8 PM ET	OSU 41.7 MINN 12.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win OSU Cover OSU More Info	25.5
@ Oct 30, 9 PM ET	COLO 16.5 OKLA 41.5 More Info | Simulate It	Win OKLA Cover OKLA More Info	-23.5
@ Oct 30, 10 PM ET	USU 21 NEV 43.3 More Info | Simulate It	Win NEV Cover NEV More Info	-26.0
@ Oct 30, 11 PM ET	TCU 48.6 UNLV 10.3 More Info | Simulate It	Win TCU Cover UNLV More Info	34.5
@ Final: 20 - 49	LT 13.6 BSU 54.9 More Info | Simulate It	Win BSU Cover BSU More Info	-37.0
@ Final: 24 - 28	FSU 33.7 NCST 27.4 More Info | Simulate It	Win FSU Cover FSU More Info	4.0

 

Before this gets to 20 pages and my post gets lost I would like to make a confession.

Back when football season started this year I came across this thread. I looked around for a couple pages and decided I would get in on the action with football season starting.
I ended up making an account with 5 dimes and deposited 50 bucks. Me being the dumb $%# that I can be when it comes to gambling I decided that I didnt want to wait for the weekend and wait on football results so I ventured into the live casino section to play blacjack.

Long story short I lost about $150 in 2 days. Needless to say I was kinda pissed.
Im thinking about starting up again with this and dealing only with sports.

First I just need to know if these things are somehow rigged when it comes to playing in the live casion portion of the site such as Blackjack.

Second how do you guys usually bet? Like $15-2$0 on single games, or you ballers going straight to $100 + bets?
Help a starter out.

Cliffs:

-Lost 150 in blackjack on 5dimes.
-Is BJ rigged on these types of sites?
-What kinds of bets you make?

 

Before this gets to 20 pages and my post gets lost I would like to make a confession.

Back when football season started this year I came across this thread. I looked around for a couple pages and decided I would get in on the action with football season starting.
I ended up making an account with 5 dimes and deposited 50 bucks. Me being the dumb $%# that I can be when it comes to gambling I decided that I didnt want to wait for the weekend and wait on football results so I ventured into the live casino section to play blacjack.

Long story short I lost about $150 in 2 days. Needless to say I was kinda pissed.
Im thinking about starting up again with this and dealing only with sports.

First I just need to know if these things are somehow rigged when it comes to playing in the live casion portion of the site such as Blackjack.

Second how do you guys usually bet? Like $15-2$0 on single games, or you ballers going straight to $100 + bets?
Help a starter out.

Cliffs:

-Lost 150 in blackjack on 5dimes.
-Is BJ rigged on these types of sites?
-What kinds of bets you make?

 

Learned this the hard way. What an idiot.

 

Learned this the hard way. What an idiot.

 

NEVER EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR use the casino on those sites.........they are rigged to the max on every site

 

NEVER EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR use the casino on those sites.........they are rigged to the max on every site

 

I wouldn't play blackjack on any gambling sites. I was up about $400 on Bodog last year and lost it all on blackjack. Too addicting and it's there for that specific purpose.

For the most part, I bet low $10 - $15 on single games and $5 on parlays.

 

I wouldn't play blackjack on any gambling sites. I was up about $400 on Bodog last year and lost it all on blackjack. Too addicting and it's there for that specific purpose.

For the most part, I bet low $10 - $15 on single games and $5 on parlays.

 

in like 2005 I won like $700 on blackjack on my old site sportsbook.com and cashed out and got my loot

I never mess with that anymore... itll let you get up on the first couple hands then yank you down to the negative... Dont know how many times ive had 20 and the dealer gets BJ

 

in like 2005 I won like $700 on blackjack on my old site sportsbook.com and cashed out and got my loot

I never mess with that anymore... itll let you get up on the first couple hands then yank you down to the negative... Dont know how many times ive had 20 and the dealer gets BJ

 

My only advice is betting the NFL is very very hard.

I try to play hard on college compared to NFL

And I hope most people post their picks so we can see who's decent.

 

My only advice is betting the NFL is very very hard.

I try to play hard on college compared to NFL

And I hope most people post their picks so we can see who's decent.

 

is there a way to upload a pic straight from my hd?

 

at using casinos online. I don't trust that $#*% for one second.

I've got like 40 bucks in my bodog account to play around with. I took New Mexico St. +3.5. A guy on betting talk, another forum I occasionally read, was real high on them so I'm rolling with it. Plus they made me some money last week on a 3 team parlay.

I also did a 3 team parlay with Marshall, New Mexico St., and Oregon State. Trying to turn that 5 into a quick $32.36. Probably won't work, but hopefully it does.

 

is there a way to upload a pic straight from my hd?

 

at using casinos online. I don't trust that $#*% for one second.

I've got like 40 bucks in my bodog account to play around with. I took New Mexico St. +3.5. A guy on betting talk, another forum I occasionally read, was real high on them so I'm rolling with it. Plus they made me some money last week on a 3 team parlay.

I also did a 3 team parlay with Marshall, New Mexico St., and Oregon State. Trying to turn that 5 into a quick $32.36. Probably won't work, but hopefully it does.

 

10 days

surprised myself that I made it through fball without making a bet. And I can't be more pleased about that.

 

10 days

surprised myself that I made it through fball without making a bet. And I can't be more pleased about that.