NT.. Whats your reason for staying in COLLEGE?

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  1. brokeballah

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    CNNARTICLE on Jobs after COLLEGE

    Job Forecast for College Seniors: Grimmer Than Ever

    By LAURA FITZPATRICK Wednesday, Mar. 04, 2009
    Graduating students at Rutgers University at a job fair
    Robert Nickelsberg / Getty

    Smith College's career office sent its jittery job-hunting seniors a letter last month with a reassuring message: "There ARE jobs, and you can findemployment." Unfortunately, there are far fewer jobs than anticipated, according to a report out today from the National Association for Colleges andEmployers (NACE). The companies surveyed for the group's spring update are planning to hire 22% fewer grads from the class of 2009 than they hired from theclass of 2008, a big letdown from the group's projections in October that hiring would hold steady. Some 44% of companies in the survey, conducted lastmonth, said they plan to hire fewer new grads, and another 22% said they do not plan to hire at all this spring, more than double last year's figure."If you were a student and were out there [interviewing] in the fall, you probably had a decent chance of getting a job," says Edwin Koc, director ofstrategic and foundation research at NACE. "But frankly, the spring does not look good." (See pictures of the college dorm's evolution.)

    Job prospects for college grads, which had been on the rise since 2004, dropped in virtually every sector this year. The most dramatic decline was, notsurprisingly, in finance, which hemorrhaged 71% of expected job openings. Less expected but equally troubling is the 37% decline in hiring for professionalservices, which include accounting and engineering. "Poor hiring estimates from this area speak to the depth of the recession in the college labor marketfor the class of 2009," the report says. (See TIME's special report on paying for colleges.)

    Government is essentially the only industry planning to hire more new grads this year than last, as the new Administration expands and a graying workforceretires. (The only other sector with plans to increase hiring - that of distribution, transportation and utilities - had too few respondents for the projectionto mean much.) The uptick in government recruiting is obvious to students. Last year, notes Dorothy Kerr, executive manager of Rutgers University's careerservices, there were just 15 government and nonprofit employers at the annual Big East Career Day in Manhattan's Madison Square Garden; others were keptout to make room for 135 private-sector employers. This year, just 80 private companies signed up for the March 13 event, where 30 federal agencies will be onhand accepting résumés. "The good news is, the Federal Government is definitely hiring," Kerr says. Still, according to the NACE report, theprojected increase is less than 6%. (See 25 people to blame for the financial crisis.)

    Not only are fewer companies hiring, but more of those with openings are offering internships instead of full-time spots. Only a third of on-campus recruitersthis year are looking to sign both full-time employees and interns, the report found, down from an average of two-thirds for the classes of 2007 and 2008. And16% of employers will be hiring only interns, nearly double the percentage that did so last year. "I explain to [the students] it's like takinganother course, and paying to take that course," says Middlebury's executive director of career services, Jaye Roseborough. (See indicators that theeconomy is getting better.)

    Experts say more college grads may seek employment in fields that require comparatively little education. "Even if you're surviving by being a coffeebarista, it's still better than just staying home," says Koc. "With the job market as difficult as it is, I don't think that students havemuch of a choice." (See the top 10 financial-crisis buzzwords.)

    Still, serving lattes for minimum wage plus tips is a painful prospect to the average college student, who graduates with $21,000 in the red. Tuition costscould also explain why graduate schools, traditionally a refuge in tough economic times, have seen uneven application numbers this year. Lance Choy, directorof the career development center at Stanford, notes that grad schools were a popular backup a few years ago during the dotcom bust, but applications are flatthis year. "Who needs more debt when the job market is looking rather grim?" he says. (Read "Finding a Dream Job: A Little Chaos TheoryHelps.")

    Meanwhile, schools are pulling out the stops to help students beat out the competition. Counselors everywhere are encouraging students to turn to their alumninetworks for help. The University of Maryland has conducted workshops with an emphasis on networking. The career office shared by Haverford and Bryn Mawrrecently gave each senior 50 business cards listing their name and major. (See what businesses are doing well despite the recession.)

    For students who have already managed to snag an offer, they might want to keep their business cards handy. According to NACE, as many as 8% of employers willbe forced to rescind at least some of the offers they made in the fall. "In this economy, we don't even use the terminology 'sewn up'anymore," says Roseborough. More like coming apart at the seams.

    Economy is real bad Right now.. I don't see why i should stay in college, i haven't gone for 2 years sincebecause i got involved with a career in Music and Health & wellness. Now i dont plan to go back. I work with MIDEM.com and the job is aight and im alsoworking on a Project that deals with health and nutrition. Right about now, the only solution i see is PROFIT > WAGES. Networking is vital.

    Sorry Someone had to bring in the TRUTH.
     
  2. ericberry14

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    becuase i know that having a degree> not having a degree, at least in terms of job opportunities & prospects
     
  3. specialed88

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    Because I'm going to be out on the street if I drop out. I didn't want to go to college originally. Parents made that decision for me.
     
  4. queencitysneakerqueen

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    Like mentioned before having a degree>not having a degree
     
  5. doctorshoes

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    Because it's completely free, and I may as well get a degree and hope for the best in four years. College is also the best way to get to know people, findinternships that could open up future jobs, and stuff like that.
     
  6. highrep87

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    stay in college
     
  7. keithahundred

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    I want to be the 1st male in my family to get a college degree, and so my future won't be as ruff as my child hood
     
  8. julian wright

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    ^This
     
  9. brokeballah

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    True.. True, but how many of guys know people that have degrees that dont do anything.. SMH i have alot of friends that have it worse than me with DEGREES. 95%have no jobs or work retail and 5% got something from the degree :T
     
  10. nako xl

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    I love how people see articles that say it's tough to get a job these days after college, and misinterpret that to mean, college is a waste of time youwont get a job.

    I mean, I guess if you've resigned yourself to a life of unemployment you're better off not wasting time and money trying to convince yourselfotherwise...

    But why did I stay in college, and grad school now? Because I have aspirations.
     
  11. slimm75

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    because I only have a semester left.......and its nice to have accomplished this either way
     
  12. purepwrta

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  13. dearwinter219

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    Well If I'm gonna sell dope, I want to have a college degree to fall back on. Plus this rap money ain't **%%.... not even for the __S who you THINK are"Doin it". #%%@ this rap bread. __s lucky I love the art form, cuz the money is dead.
     
  14. brooklynnyc3000

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    I want to make my parents proud. I will be the first one in my family to go to college.
     
  15. keithahundred

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    [​IMG] I know what you mean and how it feel
     
  16. ninjallamafromhell

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    There are a lot of places hiring engineers [​IMG]
     
  17. dearwinter219

    dearwinter219

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    My moms died trying to see me make it. I can't fail... I WON'T fail.
     
  18. Good Ol J.R

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    Becauae i dont wanna end up on welfare....again.
     
  19. pr1nts

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    at the moment i'm only in college to be in it. i will most likely end dropping out and just starting my full time job. if i stay i don't see me gettingany more money then i would without my college degree. i mean if i dropped out right now i could get a starting salary of $80,000 a year. it would go up within2 years too [​IMG]
     
  20. yungmatt

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  21. eight2one

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    cuz hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel that leads to $$$$
     
  22. ericberry14

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    you wanna hook a NTer up with that job.
     
  23. longrange3ball

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    ROTC FTW.
     
  24. pr1nts

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    friend of the family owns a business, it's kind of lame taking the easy way out but i'm lazy [​IMG]
     
  25. shortydoowopp

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    my parents would stop paying my rent if i don't finish...i'm over this...but sadly i'll probably be applying to grad school next year...