Obama speech to students draws conservative ire

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DALLAS - President Barack Obama's back-to-school address next week was supposed to be a feel-good story for an administration battered over its health care agenda. Now Republican critics are calling it an effort to foist a political agenda on children, creating yet another confrontation with the White House.

Obama plans to speak directly to students Tuesday about the need to work hard and stay in school. His address will be shown live on the White House Web site and on C-SPAN at noon EDT, a time when classrooms across the country will be able to tune in.

Schools don't have to show it. But districts across the country have been inundated with phone calls from parents and are struggling to address the controversy that broke out after Education Secretary Arne Duncan sent a letter to principals urging schools to watch.

Districts in states including Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Virginia, Wisconsin have decided not to show the speech to students. Others are still thinking it over or are letting parents have their kids opt out.

Some conservatives, driven by radio pundits and bloggers, are urging schools and parents to boycott the address. They say Obama is using the opportunity to promote a political agenda and is overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools.

"As far as I am concerned, this is not civics education - it gives the appearance of creating a cult of personality," said Oklahoma state Sen. Steve Russell. "This is something you'd expect to see in North Korea or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

Arizona state schools superintendent Tom Horne, a Republican, said lesson plans for teachers created by Obama's Education Department "call for a worshipful rather than critical approach."

The White House plans to release the speech online Monday so parents can read it. He will deliver the speech at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va.

"I think it's really unfortunate that politics has been brought into this," White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom said in an interview with The Associated Press.

"It's simply a plea to students to really take their learning seriously. Find out what they're good at. Set goals. And take the school year seriously."

She noted that President George H.W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of making the event into a campaign commercial.

Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online, originally recommended having students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."

The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."

"That was inartfully worded, and we corrected it," Higginbottom said.

In the Dallas suburb of Plano, Texas, the 54,000-student school district is not showing the 15- to 20-minute address but will make the video available later.

PTA council president Cara Mendelsohn said Obama is "cutting out the parent" by speaking to kids during school hours.

"Why can't a parent be watching this with their kid in the evening?" Mendelsohn said. "Because that's what makes a powerful statement, when a parent is sitting there saying, 'This is what I dream for you. This is what I want you to achieve.'"

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican, said in an interview with the AP that he's "certainly not going to advise anybody not to send their kids to school that day."

"Hearing the president speak is always a memorable moment," he said.

But he also said he understood where the criticism was coming from.

"Nobody seems to know what he's going to be talking about," Perry said. "Why didn't he spend more time talking to the local districts and superintendents, at least give them a heads-up about it?"

Several other Texas districts have decided not to show the speech, although the district in Houston is leaving the decision up to individual school principals. In suburban Houston, the Cypress-Fairbanks district planned to show the address and has had its social studies teachers assemble a curriculum and activities for students.

"If someone objected, we would not force them to listen to the speech," spokeswoman Kelli Durham said.

In Wisconsin, the Green Bay school district decided not to show the speech live and to let teachers decide individually whether to show it later.

In Florida, GOP chairman Jim Greer released a statement that he was "absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology."

Despite his rhetoric, two of the larger Florida districts, Miami-Dade and Hillsborough, plan to have classes watch the speech. Students whose parents object will not have to watch.

"We're extending the same courtesy to the president as we do with any elected official that wants to enter our schools," said Linda Cobbe, a Hillsborough schools spokeswoman. Cobbe said the district, which includes Tampa, has gotten calls from upset parents but said officials don't think the White House is trying to force politics on kids.

The Minnesota Association of School Administrators is recommending against disrupting the first day of school to show the speech, but Minnesota's biggest teachers' union is urging schools to show it.

Quincy, Ill., schools decided Thursday not to show the speech. Superintendent Lonny Lemon said phone calls "hit like a load of bricks" on Wednesday.

One Idaho school superintendent, Murray Dalgleish of Council, urged people not to rush to judgment.

"Is the president dictating to these kids? I don't think so," Dalgleish said. "He's trying to get out the same message we're trying to get out, which is, `You are in charge of your education.'"

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@ how anyone could see thisas a bad thing. I thought we valued and instilled the importance of education in America.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ib8qja0qqnnbZFsHF7kP6GV9XVfQD9AG43GO0
 
I like it, I think It'll inspire younger kids to have a mind of their own when it comes to politics and their views. That may or may not be a goodthings...
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j/k
 
I don't understand why this is a problem. This what we look for in our leaders. It needs to be done more.
 
Depends what the topic is. If he leaves politics and hot button issues out of it, and it's cool with me.
 
Originally Posted by blacklion23

I don't understand why this is a problem. This what we look for in our leaders. It needs to be done more.
This.

and if he was 100% white this wouldn't even be an issue. *gets flame-suit just in case*
 
Republicans are doing a good job showing that they can be whiney babies just as much as Democrats were for Bush

Anything this guy does they're all over him for
 
Originally Posted by swizzc

Depends what the topic is. If he leaves politics and hot button issues out of it, [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]and[/color] then it's cool with me.
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Originally Posted by swizzc

Depends what the topic is. If he leaves politics and hot button issues out of it, and it's cool with me.

This has nothing to do with POLITICS however the Conservatives are pushing POLITICS regardless. All this talk about brain washing over a 20 minute address bythe President of the US is ridiculous.

Just look at what is being covered...
At 12:00 p.m., Eastern Time (ET), September 8, 2009, President Barack Obama will deliver a national address to the students of America. (Please note that this is a change from the originally scheduled time.) During this special address, the president will speak directly to the nation's children and youth about persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.


To further encourage student engagement, the U.S. Department of Education is launching the "I Am What I Learn" video contest. On September 8, we will invite students to respond to the president's challenge by creating videos, up to two minutes in length, describing the steps they will take to improve their education and the role education will play in fulfilling their dreams.

We invite all students age 13 and older to create and upload their videos to YouTube by October 8. Submissions can be in the form of video blogs, public service announcements (PSAs), music videos, or documentaries. Students are encouraged to have fun and be creative with this project! The general public will then vote on their favorites to determine the top 20 finalists. These 20 videos will be reviewed by a panel of judges including U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. The panel will choose three winners, each of whom will receive a $1,000 cash prize.
 
I don't think it is the speech that is the problem. It is the essay questions that were the problem, but on NT we won't talk about that.
 
Originally Posted by spsfinest212

Originally Posted by blacklion23

I don't understand why this is a problem. This what we look for in our leaders. It needs to be done more.
This.

and if he was 100% white this wouldn't even be an issue. *gets flame-suit just in case*
If Bill Clinton planned to do this, conservatives would be saying the exact same thing. You tried to pull race into a discussion in which raceisn't a factor. Like somebody above me already said, this really just comes down to the political party that isn't in office will always criticize thepresident for anything and everything he does. Simple politics, not racism.
 
Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

you don't think that a letter about "how will you support The President" is pushing politics?

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

I don't think it is the speech that is the problem. It is the essay questions that were the problem, but on NT we won't talk about that.

They revised the lesson plan. Are there are any other issues why this is a problem?

The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."
 
SunDOOBIE wrote:
Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

you don't think that a letter about "how will you support The President" is pushing politics?

8tothe24 wrote:
I don't think it is the speech that is the problem. It is the essay questions that were the problem, but on NT we won't talk about that.

They revised the lesson plan. Are there are any other issues why this is a problem?

The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."




I don't disagree that he should do this. I just agree they should keep the egocentricity of the presidential office out of it- the lesson should be basedon educational goals.
 
I don't see why this is an issue. The Presidential Pledge is obnoxious and offensive, though. I pledge to be a servant for our President! $%#@ isdisgusting. There go my Chili Pepper's CDs.
 
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino

what's the worry here? Most kids in school will be to dumb any hot button political issue anyway.
irony?

And I swear some of you don't read, Bush Sr. received criticism for doing the same thing
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Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by swizzc

Depends what the topic is. If he leaves politics and hot button issues out of it, and it's cool with me.

This has nothing to do with POLITICS however the Conservatives are pushing POLITICS regardless. All this talk about brain washing over a 20 minute address by the President of the US is ridiculous.

Just look at what is being covered...
At 12:00 p.m., Eastern Time (ET), September 8, 2009, President Barack Obama will deliver a national address to the students of America. (Please note that this is a change from the originally scheduled time.) During this special address, the president will speak directly to the nation's children and youth about persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.


To further encourage student engagement, the U.S. Department of Education is launching the "I Am What I Learn" video contest. On September 8, we will invite students to respond to the president's challenge by creating videos, up to two minutes in length, describing the steps they will take to improve their education and the role education will play in fulfilling their dreams.

We invite all students age 13 and older to create and upload their videos to YouTube by October 8. Submissions can be in the form of video blogs, public service announcements (PSAs), music videos, or documentaries. Students are encouraged to have fun and be creative with this project! The general public will then vote on their favorites to determine the top 20 finalists. These 20 videos will be reviewed by a panel of judges including U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. The panel will choose three winners, each of whom will receive a $1,000 cash prize.



Didn't know what the topic was but now after seeing it I have no problem with it at all, and I'm a republican. The more positiveinfluences kids can have to do well in school, the better. Education (or lack thereof) and parenting is what causes all of the problems in this country anyway.
 
BUMP!!!

I heard people talking about this on the radio this afternoon and they we're irate about this being shown in schools but i never heard exactly what it wasthey were talking about.

Now that I do know.......Im so confused, shocked, angry, I don't know how I feel. I really think that this is the most ridiculous act of stupidity ive seenso far from the Obama haters. I absolutely cannot believe their reasoning so far. All I have to say is "Really?" is that how you're gonna act? Isthat how our president is going to be received? It's plain ignorance and hatred, to me its really just childish.

Ill be back later with something intelligent to say. Now, I'm just mad.
 
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